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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalophias View Post
    OK, have fun with that then. Chances are there was a simple mistake, maybe you should tone down what you are saying because you could be committing slander or something without realizing it.
    How can simple mistake lead to fake SNP's that don't exist FTDNA made them up in my chart. That's not a simple mistake. They have the References and Genotypes mixed up all over the place that's not a simple mistake. Its a lie. Can't you see that? If you can't see that get your IQ tested because it can't be over 100.
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    This company is pathetic absolutely pathetic. And finished.

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    Well then, show us an example of one of these fake SNPs. Just tell us what the data is. Right now you are claiming a bunch of stuff without showing evidence to anyone else. How can we tell that you are even reading the file right?

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    Go to ybrowse they are fake they don't exist they aren't on the tree its a lie.

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    Need anymore proof? I have more.

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    So those are new SNPs which have not been put onto YBrowse yet. That doesn't mean they are fake, not all SNPs that exist will be listed on YBrowse right away.

    Can you post one of the SNPs that means you are R1b but that FTDNA is interpreting as G?

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    Oh my god don't even try that. I'm giving you nothing. Its so clear. If you can't see it you are retarded and you must be working for FTDNA.

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    I don't have anything to do with FTDNA, I just think it's highly unlikely they are faking anything. Frankly it sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about and are going to end up making a fool of yourself. But that is your problem.

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    Your an idiot. I know exactly what's what. Have a good day bud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalophias View Post
    I don't have anything to do with FTDNA, I just think it's highly unlikely they are faking anything. Frankly it sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about and are going to end up making a fool of yourself. But that is your problem.
    Your making yourself look so bad its not even funny. Its such a joke at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalophias View Post
    I don't have anything to do with FTDNA, I just think it's highly unlikely they are faking anything. Frankly it sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about and are going to end up making a fool of yourself. But that is your problem.
    I agree, he sounds like he got unhinged.
    Be wary of people who tend to glorify the past, underestimate the present, and demonize the future.

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    Fluffy to be 100% honest with you, its probably a bug in the system, like with Nat Geo Next 2.0 when they erroneously gave not only me but several others J-L556, when I switched to ftdna it was corrected to my current J2a subclade (later doing BigY) and they even sent an email apologizing for the inconvenience (I,m talking about Nat Geo) and I didn't complain (but I'll admit very confused), if your BigY originally gave you G than that is your haplogroup, have you originally transferred your Bam file to Yfull? I would wait until the entire BigY's come in (mine still hasn't finished being analyzed to HG38), I think very likely it will return to your original haplogroup and subclade. Have you contacted your project admin about this change? If so how did they respond was it useful or bland?

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    oh please Lebrok if you can't see that its fake your the one whose unhinged

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    Fluffy, how can anyone possibly tell what's real or fake when you aren't giving us any information?

    So far you have given us a list of BY series SNP that you say are fake, but no explanation for how you know they are fake. You haven't told us how you found out you were R1b in the first place - was that a different test from FTDNA, or some other company? Did your STR profile completely change when you got the Big Y? What do you mean the ALT and REF are backwards, do you mean the columns are completely swapped in the VCF file or what? Give us something to work with here.

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    This is probably one of the funnier threads I have read in awhile. I can’t tell if Fluffy is serious or joking, sober or inebriated, or some type of combination. At the very least his claims are ridiculous. Mistakes occur and do not signify fraud.

    On a side note the haplogroup given to me by FTDNA has been corroborated by three other companies.

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    I think I would call them and ask for an explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheal View Post
    I think I would call them and ask for an explanation.
    The solution could be so simple!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalophias View Post
    So those are new SNPs which have not been put onto YBrowse yet. That doesn't mean they are fake, not all SNPs that exist will be listed on YBrowse right away.
    In all this ramble of nonsense, at least the issue with fake SNPs seems to be related to the current update from hg19 to hg38. Fluffy, not only you potentially offended the reputation of the company, but you're also calling other members as "retarded". Calm down and think about it if this is the right way to seek help and deal with such situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwauthy View Post
    This is probably one of the funnier threads I have read in awhile. I can’t tell if Fluffy is serious or joking, sober or inebriated, or some type of combination. At the very least his claims are ridiculous. Mistakes occur and do not signify fraud.

    On a side note the haplogroup given to me by FTDNA has been corroborated by three other companies.
    Your results are correct. Mine are not. I'm not saying its fraud. A mistake in the system? A mixed up file? The references are wrong! The genotypes are wrong. The bigY chart is wrong. Everything is flipped. Its a complete mess. An absolute disaster. The vcf file is wrong. The REF is my results and the ALT is wrong. I have the vcf and I'll be glad to E-mail it to any of you guys as proof that what I'm saying is true. The vcf contradicts the BigY results. Its a huge mistake on FTDNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Your results are correct. Mine are not. I'm not saying its fraud. A mistake in the system? A mixed up file? The references are wrong! The genotypes are wrong. The bigY chart is wrong. Everything is flipped. Its a complete mess. An absolute disaster. The vcf file is wrong. The REF is my results and the ALT is wrong. I have the vcf and I'll be glad to E-mail it to any of you guys as proof that what I'm saying is true. The vcf contradicts the BigY results. Its a huge mistake on FTDNA.
    Dude, you already forgot what you said yesterday, and in the title post!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Guys thanks for the replies. Its fake. I am R1b yes. FTDNA has fraudently put me down as Haplogroup G. Its a lie guys. FTDNA is a garbage company. My whole BigY is fake my STR markers are fake. I have all the evidence I need to prosecute this company for fraud. They are a lying company. Think about it for a second the STR markers contradict each other all over the place. The bigY is full of fake SNP's with a fake chart, fake all of it. 100% a lie. I have vcf file (5 copies of it) confirming that its fake. I have e-mails of lies from their staff all of them. I have everything! All on my computer. FTDNA is looking at a lawsuit unless they pay me off to walk away.
    When so many smart people give you advises how to go about this, take notice.

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    Thanks Lebrok. I'm going about it the wrong way yes I know. I need to settle down I know. I will resolve this diplomatically with FTDNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Your results are correct. Mine are not. I'm not saying its fraud. A mistake in the system? A mixed up file? The references are wrong! The genotypes are wrong. The bigY chart is wrong. Everything is flipped. Its a complete mess. An absolute disaster. The vcf file is wrong. The REF is my results and the ALT is wrong. I have the vcf and I'll be glad to E-mail it to any of you guys as proof that what I'm saying is true. The vcf contradicts the BigY results. Its a huge mistake on FTDNA.
    Mistakes happen, errors happen. That's why you contact FTDNA directly rather than post on and on about what you're going do to the company. Frankly an error such as this is easily fixable by communicating with them and working out the issue together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spruithean View Post
    Mistakes happen, errors happen. That's why you contact FTDNA directly rather than post on and on about what you're going do to the company. Frankly an error such as this is easily fixable by communicating with them and working out the issue together.
    I agree. I am going to apologize to FTDNA for my accusations. Mistakes happen and that's that. Thanks for your advice.

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