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[LABERIA]

He smuggled a Kalashnikov and five loaders into Albania. That is pre-emptive and shows clear intent to commit Terrorism.

He wrote a status 5 days ago with 445 likes where he called on others to do something extreme on this day. There can be no clearer case of Planned Terrorism.

You are trying desperately to whitewash and deflect the blame but its pathetic.

From this greek newspaper:

Eνδεικτικές είναι κάποιες από τις αναρτήσεις του:

Gg translation:

Some of his posts are indicative:

source:
http://www.iefimerida.gr/news/45451...y-ypsose-tin-elliniki-simaia-sto-argyrokastro

 

[Yetos]

@ to all

we all know what happened,

the Boy raised the flag to celebrate at Βουλαριατες cemetery
which must have 3 flags
central for Albania
and the side ones of EU and Greece.

Albanian police Downhull the flag at the middle of the day,
the boy took phone to the Diplomatic forces at Tirana and Ioannina
the police 3 cars gathered to arrest him,
he took his Ak and went to Δροπολις Aquadect to hide,
and wait for the diplomatic forces,
in less than an hour Albanian Special forces gathered 100 men
which were nearby, waiting hidden
and EXECUTE HIM.
WITHOUT EVEN WAIT THE DIPLOMATIC FORCES.

come on,

A mentally ill gets Ι5 and dismised from Greek special forces,
the boy suffered the training and did not expelled or dismised
and now you claiming Illness?

COME ON

 

[LABERIA]

@ to all

we all know what happened,

the Boy raised the flag to celebrate at Βουλαριατες cemetery
which must have 3 flags
central for Albania
and the side ones of EU and Greece.

Albanian police Downhull the flag at the middle of the day,
the boy took phone to the Diplomatic forces at Tirana and Ioannina
the police 3 cars gathered to arrest him,
he took his Ak and went to Δροπολις Aquadect to hide,
and wait for the diplomatic forces,
in less than an hour Albanian Special forces gathered 100 men
which were nearby, waiting hidden
and EXECUTE HIM.
WITHOUT EVEN WAIT THE DIPLOMATIC FORCES.

come on,

A mentally ill gets Ι5 and dismised from Greek special forces,
the boy suffered the training and did not expelled or dismised
and now you claiming Illness?

COME ON

And as always you are liar. Read your minister who was present in Bularat today:

Σημερα στο νεκροταφειο πεσοντων στους Βουλιαρατες κοντα στην Κλεισουρα για να τιμησουμε τους Ελληνες πεσοντες. Ημερα μνημης στον τοπο που επεσαν. Πυκνη συγκινηση αναμεσα στα βουνα που πολεμησαν με πατριωτισμο εναντιον του φασισμου. Παντου ελληνικες σημαιες, παροντες εκπροσωποι της ελληνικης και αλβανικης κυβερνησης, η πρεσβης της Ελλαδας, βουλευτες, δημαρχοι, πληθος κοσμου και παιδια του σχολειου. Δοξολογια, καταθεση στεφανων, ομιλια της πρεσβεως, εθνικος υμνος Ελλαδας και Αλβανιας, ποιηματα παιδιων. Φυγαμε στις τρεις το μεσημερι χωρις να εχει υπαρξει καμια ανησυχια. Στο μεταξυ ειχαμε πληροφορηθει οτι καποιος ομογενης με καλασνικοφ ειχε απειλησει το πρωι να πυροβολησει θεωρωντας οτι η συμφωνια των δυο κυβερνησεων να αποκαταστησουν τη μνημη των νεκρων ηταν προδοσια. Καμια ελληνικη σημαια δεν κατεβηκε, ολες ηταν υψωμενες. Μετα τις 3μμ στο δρομο της επιστροφης πληροφορηθηκαμε οτι ο ομογενης περικυκλωθηκε, η αστυνομια του ζητησε να παραδοθει, δεν παραδοθηκε και τον σκοτωσαν. Ηταν ενα τραγικο συμβαν που κανεις μας σημερα ολο το πρωι, μεσα στην ατμοσφαιρα συγκινησης που επικρατουσε, δεν μπρουσε να φανταστει.

https://www.protagon.gr/epikairotit...-elliniki-simaia-sto-argyrokastro-44341715640

 

[Yetos]

He smuggled a Kalashnikov and five loaders into Albania. That is pre-emptive and shows clear intent to commit Terrorism.

He wrote a status 5 days ago with 445 likes where he called on others to do something extreme on this day. There can be no clearer case of Planned Terrorism.

You are trying desperately to whitewash and deflect the blame but its pathetic.

Derite

Once Face the truth,
all AK-47
were Albanian guns,
and were smuggled by Albanians by the 'Pyramid banks' era,

THERE was no need to enter an Ak-47 to Albania
Just to buy it from an Albanian who stole it at the Pyramid bankinh era,

Spring of 1997,
Brand new Kalaznikof, fresh from the box.

Αυλωνα 1997-1998
tenths of Thousands of Ak-47 and other guns were stollen

 

[Yetos]

And as always you are liar. Read your minister who was present in Bularat today:

https://www.protagon.gr/epikairotit...-elliniki-simaia-sto-argyrokastro-44341715640

2 shots in chest,
and 1 in head is not a fight result,
rather an execution.

 

[LABERIA]

2 shots in chest,
and 1 in head is not a fight result,
rather an execution.

The translation of the post of your Minister who rapresented Greek Government in this ceremony:
Google translation:

"Today, in the grave of martyrs in Bularat, we honored our Greek soldiers. Memorial in the place where they lost their lives. Emotions among the mountains where they fought with patriotism against fascism. Everywhere Greek flags, representatives of the Greek and Albanian government, Greek ambassadors, deputies, mayors, students, plain inhabitants. We set the crowns, heard the speeches, the Albanian and Greek anthems, children's poems. We left at noon quiet at 15.00. During the road we were informed that a homogenous one had threatened Kalashnikov's morning by considering the agreement between the two governments for the martyrs cemetery and the reverence of their memory a betrayal!

No Greek flag fell, they were all elevated. After 15.00, on the way back we were informed that homogeneous was surrounded by police, asked to surrender, did not surrender and killed. Nor could we imagine the tragic incident in the very exciting atmosphere of the morning.

You see that you are a liar.
Next time go play this kind of games in Athens and not in our country.

 

[Johane Derite]

The translation of the post of your Minister who rapresented Greek Government in this ceremony:
Google translation:

You see that you are a liar.
Next time go play this kind of games in Athens and not in our country.

He is in desperation trying to do damage control and deflecting the blame.

Meanwhile the same type of Terrorist fanatics are currently protesting outside the Albanian embassy in Greece with Terrorist chants such as:

"Kill Albanians with Fire and Ax"


VIDEO: https://web.facebook.com/SarandaWeb.net/videos/701755150197528/

 

[blevins13]

2 shots in chest,
and 1 in head is not a fight result,
rather an execution.

Feel bad for this young boy that threw his life in vain....one question, how Greek special forces tread similar situations?


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[ihype02]

Since when did the Greeks get the right to shoot someone for taking off thier flag? Which it did not even happen.

 

[Tutkun Arnaut]

No, he was not mentally ill.

I am about to change my mind. He could have had some kind of sickness. I don't think someone send him to do what he did, even the extremist groups. If he wanted to kill police or civilians he could have done it since he had the element of surprise. His killing even though justified, should not be seen as a great success since he was not normal person.

 

[Yetos]

All I see is some blind Albanians,

if the man had an Ak-47 and was trained, as volunteer forSpecial forces ranger militia (Τολμων Νικα)
he could surely kill 2-3 civilians,
OR take some hostages,
etc etc,

The man got 2 shots in Chest
and 1 in Head,
THAT is a clear execution.


So it is Obvious that Albanian Police is terrorizing and Executes,

No Civilian wounded,
No Hostage taken
clear shots, probably from near distance so to be accurate,

EVEN A BLIND MAN CAN SEE,
THAT THE MAN WAS EXECUTED BY ALBANIAN POLICE AND ALBANIAN SPECIAL FORCES.

THE QUESTION IS WHY?

 

[blevins13]

All I see is some blind Albanians,

if the man had an Ak-47 and was trained, as volunteer forSpecial forces ranger militia (Τολμων Νικα)
he could surely kill 2-3 civilians,
OR take some hostages,
etc etc,

The man got 2 shots in Chest
and 1 in Head,
THAT is a clear execution.


So it is Obvious that Albanian Police is terrorizing and Executes,

No Civilian wounded,
No Hostage taken
clear shots, probably from near distance so to be accurate,

EVEN A BLIND MAN CAN SEE,
THAT THE MAN WAS EXECUTED BY ALBANIAN POLICE AND ALBANIAN SPECIAL FORCES.

THE QUESTION IS WHY?

Feel bad for the dead boy, but answer this, how Greek police apprehends individuals armed with AK-47 shooting towards them. How they eliminate this type of threat? Than we can judge if what Albanian SWAT acts were excessive.....or take US SWAT and see how they proceed and compare with what happens yesterday......


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[Yetos]

Feel bad for the dead boy, but answer this, how Greek police apprehends individuals armed with AK-47 shooting towards them. How they eliminate this type of threat? Than we can judge if what Albanian SWAT acts were excessive.....or take US SWAT and see how they proceed and compare with what happens yesterday......


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I suggest read the stories of Albanians who shot with AK-47 the police

Alket Rizai
Marian Kolla
Halili Julian
Phillip Mezai
Flamour Pisli
and others etc etc

As also the story of Greeks like
Πασσαρης
Μαζιωτης
And others

it is tottaly different the sudden fight
and the 100 men and helicopters vs one,
at the second you just wait and watch for police psycologists to negotiate


remember the 1999 case of Flamour Pisli,
the Albanian Police not only execute him,
but also a hostage

 

[blevins13]

I suggest read the stories of Albanians who shot with AK-47 the police

Alket Rizai
Marian Kolla
Halili Julian
Phillip Mezai
Flamour Pisli
and others etc etc

As also the story of Greeks like
Πασσαρης
Μαζιωτης
And others

it is tottaly different the sudden fight
and the 100 men and helicopters vs one,
at the second you just wait and watch for police psycologists to negotiate


remember the 1999 case of Flamour Pisli,
the Albanian Police not only execute him,
but also a hostage

Give us a straight answer....what Albanian SWAT missed in the process of apprehending him.


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[Yetos]

Give us a straight answer....what Albanian SWAT missed in the process of apprehending him.


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Negotiations, and the victim's view,
Less than few km away there were both Greek and Albanian officers and politicians,
who could Negotiate the surrender, If Albanian police has no negotiation department
same thing happened with Flamour Pisli
Albanian police opened fire, with out negotiations, to a blocked stoped bus
killing a hostage.

I gave straight answer.

<<I suggest read the stories of Albanians who shot with AK-47 the police

Alket Rizai
Marian Kolla
Halili Julian
Phillip Mezai
Flamour Pisli
and others etc etc

As also the story of Greeks like
Πασσαρης
Μαζιωτης
And others >>

 

[LABERIA]

I suggest read the stories of Albanians who shot with AK-47 the police

Alket Rizai
Marian Kolla
Halili Julian
Phillip Mezai
Flamour Pisli
and others etc etc

As also the story of Greeks like
Πασσαρης
Μαζιωτης
And others

it is tottaly different the sudden fight
and the 100 men and helicopters vs one,
at the second you just wait and watch for police psycologists to negotiate


remember the 1999 case of Flamour Pisli,
the Albanian Police not only execute him,
but also a hostage

There is something you do not understand or do not want to understand. The people you mentioned are ordinary criminals, even there is a personal story behind them as in the case of Flamur Pisli. There are hundreds of inocent Albanians killed in Greccia many times by the forces of the Greek order without reasons, just because they were Albanians. We never forget and never forgive. Hundreds of Albanians.
The person we are talking here was a terrorist. He had been or was also a member of the Greek special forces, in these cases you never know the truth. He had arrived in the village with a precise plan, and was him who announced it in social media. For no reason he began to shoot in the air and against the houses of the village. Nobody has lowered the Greek flag, was the same Greek Minister who told this to us, the highest representative of the Greek government that was present on the place that tells us. 5 Albanian policemen who were on patrol in the area were informed about the incident and arrived immediately on the spot. They asked to the terrorist to drop down the weapon and to surrender to the police. He, armed with an AK-47, did not accept the police appeal and fired at the police patrol. In this situation, following the regulations, the patrol requested the intervention of the RENEA special forces. 30 memmbers from the RENEA arrived at the place and asked the terrorist to hand over the weapon and surrender. He did not accepted and responded by shooting against special forces. After this special forces have responded to the fire and the terrorist has been eliminated. This is the story. There is not a 100 vs 1. Although in such situations, the manual foresees the engagement of even a thousand men if this is required in the case of a terrorist hunt or if the terrain is difficult, forest, swamp, etc.
Stop supporting the terrorists.

 

[Yetos]

There is something you do not understand or do not want to understand. The people you mentioned are ordinary criminals, even there is a personal story behind them as in the case of Flamur Pisli. There are hundreds of inocent Albanians killed in Greccia many times by the forces of the Greek order without reasons, just because they were Albanians. We never forget and never forgive. Hundreds of Albanians.
The person we are talking here was a terrorist. He had been or was also a member of the Greek special forces, in these cases you never know the truth. He had arrived in the village with a precise plan, and was him who announced it in social media. For no reason he began to shoot in the air and against the houses of the village. Nobody has lowered the Greek flag, was the same Greek Minister who told this to us, the highest representative of the Greek government that was present on the place that tells us. 5 Albanian policemen who were on patrol in the area were informed about the incident and arrived immediately on the spot. They asked to the terrorist to drop down the weapon and to surrender to the police. He, armed with an AK-47, did not accept the police appeal and fired at the police patrol. In this situation, following the regulations, the patrol requested the intervention of the RENEA special forces. 30 memmbers from the RENEA arrived at the place and asked the terrorist to hand over the weapon and surrender. He did not accepted and responded by shooting against special forces. After this special forces have responded to the fire and the terrorist has been eliminated. This is the story. There is not a 100 vs 1. Although in such situations, the manual foresees the engagement of even a thousand men if this is required in the case of a terrorist hunt or if the terrain is difficult, forest, swamp, etc.
Stop supporting the terrorists.

No Comment,

The case of Katsifas is a clear execution,
for many reasons,

In fact the Albanian police should also arrest the policeman
who armed his gun, when Katsifas asked the reason of downhull the flag,

The whole case says the the victim was decided to be killed
and never brought to Justice,
The role of Police is to bring the criminals to Justice
not to execute them.

As for the story,
I prefer the truth and eye witness saying,
The man makes the same post at facebook 2 years,
raises the 2 falgs for second year,
2 police cars go straight to him and downhull one flag,
when Katsifas ask why,
one policeman pulls over his jacket show him the gun,
nobody knows what they said,
and as katsifas moves to home,
the police man get his gun gun and armed it !!!!

Katsifas takes his Albanian Ak-47
and shoots the police cars,

HE KILLS NOBODY,
HE TAKES NO HOSTAGES,
HE USES NO EXPLOSIVES,
so his intense is not to terrorise,
neither to make a revolution,
it is personal among him and the policeman,

he takes the mountains and hides to an aquadect
he has max 60 bullets.
the shots are mentioned for hours,
imposible,
so what happened,

Either Katsifas run off bullets and make a 'heroic exit'
either katsifas the time he negotiate or surrended got 2 in chest and 1 in head by near distance,
and SWAT kept shooting to terorize the crowd at the village, or give impressions.

What is the strange,
so many Greek and Albanian high class political persons there,
none was asked for negotiations,no mention of the dialogue, among the negotiations department and the victim,
not even recorded so to be used at justice courts,

all these mean one thing,
the man was a romantic patriot,
who was provoked by a policeman, who played the God,
and was executed without a trial,
for reasons Albanian police knows,
and hides.

the whole case does not show a mental illness,
neither a terrorist,
Katsifas does not terrorise mases and humans,
neither uses them as shield,
he was provoked by a policeman,
and answer to him.

Albanian police must find who the policeman was and pass him from from trial

there are many dark s8ubjects in case,
as the purpose of Rama to categorise him as a mental ill,
that shows tottaly diiferent truth than the one Albanian provides,

It is clear that we speak about an execution
by the typical way of all over the world policemans to bring the victim in anger
so to make the mistake,

IT WAS A SETUP CASE,

 

[blevins13]

Negotiations, and the victim's view,
Less than few km away there were both Greek and Albanian officers and politicians,
who could Negotiate the surrender, If Albanian police has no negotiation department
same thing happened with Flamour Pisli
Albanian police opened fire, with out negotiations, to a blocked stoped bus
killing a hostage.

I gave straight answer.

<<I suggest read the stories of Albanians who shot with AK-47 the police

Alket Rizai
Marian Kolla
Halili Julian
Phillip Mezai
Flamour Pisli
and others etc etc

As also the story of Greeks like
Πασσαρης
Μαζιωτης
And others >>

So according to you this is a case of Albanian Swat being unprofessional, not racist.....right?


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[Yetos]

So according to you this is a case of Albanian Swat being unprofessional, not racist.....right?


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I never spoke of racism,
I added some more plz read them.

the unproffesional stance has 3 positions,
either indeed are more soldier like trained than true policemans, clear unproffesional
as in case of Flamour Pisli,

either they are trully well trained but wanted to exterminate him,
for many possible reasons,

either wanted to make an impressive show of ability and who is the boss,
by shooting for 6 hours outside the village,
they analyze his psycology the last year, and found the perfect one who could help their plan.

 

[LABERIA]

No Comment,
The case of Katsifas is a clear execution,
for many reasons,
In fact the Albanian police should also arrest the policeman
who armed his gun, when Katsifas asked the reason of downhull the flag,
The whole case says the the victim was decided to be killed
and never brought to Justice,
The role of Police is to bring the criminals to Justice
not to execute them.
As for the story,
I prefer the truth and eye witness saying,
The man makes the same post at facebook 2 years,
raises the 2 falgs for second year,
2 police cars go straight to him and downhull one flag,
when Katsifas ask why,
one policeman pulls over his jacket show him the gun,
nobody knows what they said,
and as katsifas moves to home,
the police man get his gun gun and armed it !!!!
Katsifas takes his Albanian Ak-47
and shoots the police cars,
HE KILLS NOBODY,
HE TAKES NO HOSTAGES,
HE USES NO EXPLOSIVES,
so his intense is not to terrorise,
neither to make a revolution,
it is personal among him and the policeman,
he takes the mountains and hides to an aquadect
he has max 60 bullets.
the shots are mentioned for hours,
imposible,
so what happened,
Either Katsifas run off bullets and make a 'heroic exit'
either katsifas the time he negotiate or surrended got 2 in chest and 1 in head by near distance,
and kept shooting to terorize the crowd at the village
What is the strange,
so many Greek and Albanian high class political persons there,
none was asked for negotiations,no mention of the dialogue, among the negotiations department
and the victim, not even recorded so to be used at justice courts,
all these mean one thing,
the man was a romantic patriot,
who was provoked by a policeman, who played the God,
and was executed without a trial,
for reasons Albanian police knows,
and hides.
the whole case does not show a mental illness,
neither a terrorist,
Katsifas does not terrorise mases and humans,
neither uses them as shield,
he was provoked by a policeman,
and answer to him.
Albanian police must find who the policeman was and pass him from from trial
there are many dark s8ubjects in case,
as the purpose of Rama to categorise him as a mental ill,
that shows tottaly diiferent truth than the one Albanian provides,
It is clear that we speak about an execution
by the typical way of all over the world policemans to bring the victim in anger
so to make the mistake,

IT WAS A SETUP CASE,

Until now you didn't quoted a single source to back your claims. Go read again what your Minister declared and stop spreading lies and disinformation. Thanks to the professionalism of the Albanian police the terrorists was eleminated. Hundreds of Albanian mothers have been dressed in black and cry their sons killed by the Greeks, many times unjustly from Greek police and many times from the friends of this terrorist, organizations like M. A. V. I, etc. Enough. If you want to remove Tsipras from power, follow the democratic way through the election like every civilized country in the world. Honestly, i am surprised this time with FYROM or North Macedonia, they played smarter this time and you are trapped.