Y DNA of Herzegovinian Serbs

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Sample 246

I2a (110) - 44,7%

R1a (42) - 17,1%

E1b (30) - 12,2%

I1 (13) - 5,3%

J2 (13) -5,3%

R1b (12) - 4,9%

N2 (11) - 4,5%

G (9) - 3,7%

J1 (3) - 1,2%

Q (1) - 0,4%

​L (1)- 0,4%
 
Bachus said:
Sample 246

I2a (110) - 44,7%

R1a (42) - 17,1%

E1b (30) - 12,2%

I1 (13) - 5,3%

J2 (13) -5,3%

R1b (12) - 4,9%

N2 (11) - 4,5%

G (9) - 3,7%

J1 (3) - 1,2%

Q (1) - 0,4%

​L (1)- 0,4%
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Do you have any scientific reference ?
 
I2a - around 3/4 is I2-PH908, and around 1/4 is CTS10228

R1a - around 2/3 is Z280, and around 1/3 is M458

E1b is all E-V13

I1 - around half is P109, and half Z63

J2 - around 2/3 is J2a-M92, and around 1/3 is J2b-M205

R1b - around 60% are western branches (almost all is R1b-U152), and around 40% are eastern branches

N2 is 100% N2a-P189.2
 
Y DNA of Herzegovinian Serbs at the sample of 328

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Y DNA of Herzegovinian Serbs - sample 440

I2a-YP196 (199) - 45,23% (I2-PH908 32,5%)

R1a (68) - 15,45% (Z280 10,98% / M458 4,47%)

E-V13 (55) - 12,5%

I1 (29) - 6,59%

R1b (22) - 5% (western 3,18%)

N2 (20) - 4,55%

J2a (18) - 4,09%

G2a-L497 (10) - 2,27%

J1 (6) - 1,36%

L-M349 (6) - 1,36%

J2b-M205 (4) - 0,9%

I2-M223 (1) - 0,23%

J2b-M241 (1) - 0,23%

Q (1) - ​0,23%
 
hrvat22 said:
It's from private genetic portal "Poreklo" and it is not based on scientific work, for that reason it can only serve informatively.

Only scientific reference that we have for Serbs from Bosnia and Herzegovina is this.

http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/22Kangars/BesenyoGeneticsEn.htm
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It is based on scientific work, the reason these haplotypes are not public is because the book dealing with them is not yet published. But the methodology of sampling was great, usually older families were chosen and going by ethnographic literature, it was ensured that certainly related families are not double tested. No doubt, Eastern Herzegovina has the best sample on the Balkans.
 
Just believe in the word is not scientific reference, we must be aware of this.
Scientific reference is when the genetic frequency of some population is established on the basis of scientific work which is not here.
 
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Aspurg said:
It is based on scientific work, the reason these haplotypes are not public is because the book dealing with them is not yet published. But the methodology of sampling was great, usually older families were chosen and going by ethnographic literature, it was ensured that certainly related families are not double tested. No doubt, Eastern Herzegovina has the best sample on the Balkans.
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I don't know why you are trying to discuss with person who is well known as a t r o ll and full of hate. He is irelevant for discusions about genetic geneaology. He 5 years spreads his funny theories on this forum (and other forums) but still don't know his Y-DNA, that kind of person don't have a right to teach others about scientific methods and their DNA.


When in future Biological faculty who tested these persons publish a study about Herzegovina Serbs he will continue in calling it non-scientific work.
 
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I don't know why you are trying to discuss with person who is well known as a t r o ll and full of hate. He is irelevant for discusions about genetic geneaology. He 5 years spreads his funny theories on this forum (and other forums) but still don't know his Y-DNA, that kind of person don't have a right to teach others about scientific methods and their DNA.
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First you must show historical records that mention local Serbs in the area of Herzegovina, ie. first records that speak about concrete Serbs in that area.

When I see these data then I'll answer.

Why would I be full of hate if I'm talking about genetics and the history of the Croatians? You have this topic on Eupedia and I'm waiting for you for 5 years to refute anything. https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/31539-Genetics-confirm-migration-of-White-Croats-to-Croatia
You are not here.

Why you the not start topic of Serbian migration and prove this with genetics and historical records? Whether you afraid of something?

In Serbia (genetic portal and forums) all haplotypes that Serbs have are originally of Serbian origin, why you the not come here and prove this to us?
 
Atlantische said:
I don't know why you are trying to discuss with person who is well known as a t r o ll and full of hate. He is irelevant for discusions about genetic geneaology. He 5 years spreads his funny theories on this forum (and other forums) but still don't know his Y-DNA, that kind of person don't have a right to teach others about scientific methods and their DNA.


When in future Biological faculty who tested these persons publish a study about Herzegovina Serbs he will continue in calling it non-scientific work.
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Some things shouldn't go unanswered. Ah, I thought he's some I-Y3120, so he too is one of these partisan DNA-obsessed guys who don't know their own Y-DNA. Like Bachus, who should be though I-Y3120>A1328 even if he is not tested, but in Krajina Serbs there were some unexpected results..
 
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