Mesolithic Greece: Face of 9,000-Year-Old Teenager Reconstructed

Great. I'm glad to hear all of this. I just wanted you to understand what we deal with here on a daily basis. Again, I apologize for misjudging you.

I think it's natural as human beings to want to know what other human beings look like, especially those who were our ancestors. Unfortunately, all we can do is go on the few snps we have confidence had a certain impact, and reconstructions from bones. I don't think any of them are exact, but having worked with forensic specialists who do these kinds of reconstructions, they're often at least generally correct, so I think perhaps we can say that our Mesolithic European ancestors seemed to have very robust bones, wide strong jaws, wide, sharp cheekbones etc. The European Neolithic farmers, although mixed with WHG, seemed to have relatively longer, slightly softer faces, with cheekbones that are usually "flatter". However, that's not always true. Look at Otzi. The admixture changed his head shape and cheekbones as well.

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The best invention scientists could come up with, imo, after curing terrible diseases, is a time machine. I'd take substantial risks to try it. :) I would so like to know what all of these people were like.

That guy looks like he could be Otzi's twin, with the only exception being the hair color.

They should have gotten this guy to play him in the upcoming movie.
 

@ 35 seconds, they explain her mouth looked different at birth. But her jaw was moved forward, as they speculate she utilized it as a sort of tool.

1 and a half meters tall, so she was about 4 foot 9 inches I believe.

Here diet was transitional between that of a hunter-gatherer, and an agricultural diet according to the video.

Thanks, Jovialis, now her looks make more sense.
 
Thanks, Jovialis, now her looks make more sense.

I find it interesting that they had suggested the jaw was possibly used for a skill comparable to that of how the Eskimos soften seal skin. Perhaps if we find more skulls that are similar, it may suggest what the roles of individuals within some Mesolithic societies were.
 
Actually i have exactly the same sad mouth as her that give me like a " hard " face, i have a low jaw prognathisme and she seems to have it too, dont know if its related, but the tool thing seems strange, because prognathisme is a pretty common thing in ancient and modern population, that give some weird face and mouth. What !!! 4 feet 9 ? it gives 144 cm, this less than Danny DeVito that is i think medically considered as a dwarf.
 

@ 35 seconds, they explain her mouth looked different at birth. But her jaw was moved forward, as they speculate she utilized it as a sort of tool.

1 and a half meters tall, so she was about 4 foot 9 inches I believe.

Here diet was transitional between that of a hunter-gatherer, and an agricultural diet according to the video.

There is one serious mistake in the video you linked here: they say that dying at 15-19 years old that girl probably lived the average lifespan of a woman at that historic period. That's of course not true, because even the average life expectancy is estimated to have been 25-30 for hunter gatherers, and if we discount the infant mortality (certainly higher than 30%), then that girl, who survived childhood, was expected to live up to 40-50 years, not 15-19. It's annoying how often relevant media outlets keep spreading this myth about the life expectancy of people in ancient times.
 
I think the extra strong jaw muscles allowed her to easily chew through tree bark as well as giving her an advantage in combat
 
There is one serious mistake in the video you linked here: they say that dying at 15-19 years old that girl probably lived the average lifespan of a woman at that historic period. That's of course not true, because even the average life expectancy is estimated to have been 25-30 for hunter gatherers, and if we discount the infant mortality (certainly higher than 30%), then that girl, who survived childhood, was expected to live up to 40-50 years, not 15-19. It's annoying how often relevant media outlets keep spreading this myth about the life expectancy of people in ancient times.

The reports say she didn't die a violent death. So perhaps it could have been from disease? Perhaps even something like malnourishment.
 
I think the extra strong jaw muscles allowed her to easily chew through tree bark as well as giving her an advantage in combat

Chew through tree bark??? How come? Why would she do that?
 
Chew through tree bark??? How come? Why would she do that?
I think I read that humans used to have bigger stronger jaws to bite through tree bark for consumption. I can't think of any other reason why her jaw is that way besides it being some sort of cultural tradition as jovialis pointed out.
 
Hunter-gatherers did use their teeth as a tool:
"Today such actionsare relatively uncommon, as we have alarge array of specialized tools to carryout these tasks. In the past teeth wereused for a large variety of tasks, such asinitial preparation of food, preparation ofmaterials such as leather and fibres andwoodworking. This was particularly trueof hunter-gatherers and may well have hada considerably greater effect on tooth wearthan eating itself. Consequently, mostgroups of hunter-gatherers, both ancientand recent, have been noted for their highrates of tooth wear."
file:///C:/Users/Owner/Documents/26-104-1-PB.pdf

Inuit women have traditionally chewed on animal hide in the process of making clothing.
https://books.google.com/books?id=5...o the Inuit use their teeth as a tool&f=false

I can't find a citation right now, but I believe tree bark was also chewed on to break it down for uses in clothing.

It seems some groups knew enough to chew on the willow bark, which is a source of salicylic acid. Certain kinds of pine bark were also eaten in times when game was scarce.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salicylic_acid

The jaw is somewhat different, but I think Pinhasi has proposed that chewing on raw vegetables and meat required bigger jaws, and with the advent of cooked food, and especially by Neolithic times, the jaw size was shrinking.

Perhaps this was a hunter-gatherer trait her group retained, as well as a result of the work she did?
 
The Mesolithic Greek woman has a number of Atlantid features in my opinion which correlates with modern Greek (mainland) Atlanto Meds although the close set eyes may vary from Modern mainland Greeks phenotypes with a similar skull structure.
 
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Mesolithic Teenager 7000 BC
"Avgi has very unique, not especially female, skull, and features. Myrtis, still a child, does not differ at all in the features we find around us today," says Nilsson. "Having reconstructed a lot of Stone Age women and men, I think some facial features seem to have disappeared or 'smoothed out' with time. In general, we look less masculine, both men and women, today."

looks similar,

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"A Minoan Priestess (c. 1700 BC) reconstructed anatomically from a skull (John Prag and Richard Neave ). My colored version. According to a story she was killed due to an earthquake while carrying a human sacrifice!"
http://www.hellenicaworld.com/Greece/Art/Ancient/en/AgiaTriadaMinoanFresco.html
 
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Wow the priestess looks just like her
 

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