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Thread: Dna of King Bela III of Hungary

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    Country: Hungary



    mszenczi

    I completely agree with you. I have polish(polak) with my maternal branch (Y chr: R1a-M458-L260-YP415) and many polish people think that they are descendants of the sarmatians or the scythians. The linguistics and the genetics also support his.

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuzmosi View Post
    And just an additive.

    I completed all of my 8 great-great-grandfathers Y-haplogroup definition, with the help of their direct male descendants, and the help from YSEQ.

    The results:
    E1b1b-V13-Z17107*
    R1b-U106-DF98-S22069*
    R1b-U152-L2-Z49-S8172*
    I2A-L621-A1328*
    R1a-M458-L260-YP415*
    R1a-L664-S2852 (not complete yet)
    I1A-L22-CTS11603 (not complete yet)
    I2A-L621-Y4460 (not complete yet)

    Until today, I thought, I haven't hungarian ancestors. But I read Angela's post, and I found the linked file from Neparaczki, and now I guess, through my german lines (R1a-L664, R1b-U106, I1A-L22) yet I found my hungarian roots. Strange...
    kuzmosi,

    I noticed R1b-U106 - DF98 in one of your great grandfather's y-lines? The DF98 group is called the King's Cluster (because it contains the House of Wettin from Thuringia from Germany - but the DF98 mutation is an old relation - Bronze Age - to put it in perspective - but still a cool relation! I am in that group because I carry the DF98 mutation etc) and the subject of this pdf maintained by Dr. Iain McDonald here if you didn't know about it. Your GGF is probably in there? If not have whoever is the carrier of that line to join the U106 DNA project at FTDNA and U106 yahoo forum! We need many more testers from Europe and especially Eastern Europe (for example a descendant of DF98 - a burial in the early Unetice culture of near Prague - is DF98 and SNPs S1911 and S1894/S1900 under that)... note this link is to the update... Dr. Iain is still working to update the Wettin part of this document: http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/~mcdonald/ge...ster-draft.pdf

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    Bollox79!

    Thank you, but I know. I talked to Iain about it.

    My oldest known ancestor this S22069 line is Janos Dobi born: 1758 (I don't know where) died 26. 01. 1799. Balkany, Szabolcs county, Hungary. I found another Dobi family, also in Balkany. I made a test with a male member of this family, and he was S22069+ too. It means the relationship between the two Dobi family is real, and older than 1758.

    We talking to Iain about making a BigY or a Whole Genom Sequence, but it is too expensive for me. If will be a major price reduction, or somebody gets into a part of the cost, I make one. Unfortunately donors are not interested in such things. I'm glad they were willing to give samples. They liked them when I said that: we have a 3000 years old common father with King George V.

    I hope to succeed soon.

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    I just see that Iain placed us on the map. Page 11. Dobi family. It feels good to see the results of my work.

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    Ethnic group
    Turkish,Albanian
    Country: Turkey



    uralic/turkic tribes assimiliated to scythians inside

    and we must be know Hungarians and Turks dont have asian genetic today. because asian males dont choice by girls. dominant and high testosterone males always going high on populations.


    i think this is reason hungarians and turkey turks why not have y-dna connection with their ancestors

    this is same happened in america. latin and black population gonna be more dominant and high on the future.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw


    on the future european and american people dont see any connection with their ancestors like us today. middle eastern dominant males, and immigration going to everywhere today europe and all the world going mix

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    Caucasid, Turanid, Pamirid
    Country: Hungary



    Quote Originally Posted by Gyula View Post
    Hello,
    Where does the information: Z93>Z2125>Z2123 come from? The original paper does not refine R1a. Is it from some prediction algorithm??? I am interested in any further information.
    it was 3.Béla's SNP, STR subgroup. From a bronze aged Srubna man, found in 2015 near to Volga river . A pre-Scythian mutation, find in Karacaj, balkar , South-Osethia, Afganistan, Volga tatar, India, C. Asia, E Anatolia, N Caucasus

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