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    Quote Originally Posted by AdeoF View Post
    Or the OG of them all the Margherita with a hint of basil!!! Have that with a Peroni!!!!
    This Delivery is for @Davef, but he’s not around. You can have it, the pizza is getting cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    They're great cooks, the Neapolitans, some of the best in Italy, no matter the dish. It helps that a lot of their produce grows in the rich volcanic soil around Vesuvius, and that their sea is teeming with fish compared to ours. I think that's why their cooking is sometimes less complicated than ours: the ingredients are so incredible that you have to do less to them and the dishes still sing.
    Is it true that the first Pizza was invented in Napoli?

    Or did Sicilians also make Pizza?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    Is it true that the first Pizza was invented in Napoli?

    Or did Sicilians also make Pizza?
    It's true, Pizza, as we know it today, was invented in Naples where it is documented at least since 1700. And in Italy it is commonly accepted that Naples is the home of Pizza.

    Then perhaps similar dishes are older, but they are not like today's pizza with tomato, mozzarella and everything else.

    The word "pizza" according to some documents is attested for the first time in Gaeta in the Year 997, so 1000 years ago. But it is very unlikely that it is like today's pizza. And anyway Gaeta, which is today in the Lazio region, has been always historically part of the Kingdom of Naples, and was in the region of Campania until 1927. In any case it is part of the history of Naples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    It's true, Pizza, as we know it today, was invented in Naples where it is documented at least since 1700. And in Italy it is commonly accepted that Naples is the home of Pizza.

    Then perhaps similar dishes are older, but they are not like today's pizza with tomato, mozzarella and everything else.

    The word "pizza" according to some documents is attested for the first time in Gaeta in the Year 997, so 1000 years ago. But it is very unlikely that it is like today's pizza. And anyway Gaeta, which is today in the Lazio region, has been always historically part of the Kingdom of Naples, and was in the region of Campania until 1927. In any case it is part of the history of Naples.

    pizza word comes from antique
    Pizza is Italian invasion
    but word comes from ancient πικτη picte
    wich turns to Greek Pitta Italian Pizza Pontic Greek Pissia
    gerenally it is the transform of the Picte mass to a flat surface

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    ΑΤΗ ΛΑΜΒΑΝΕΙΝ ΑΥΤΟΙΣ
    ΥΒΡΙΣ ΓΕΝΝΑΤΑΙ
    ΝΕΜΕΣΙΣ ΚΑΙ ΤΙΣΗ ΑΚΟΛΟΥΘΟΥΣΙ ΔΕ

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    Divine blindness conquers them
    Hybris (abuse, opprombium) is born
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    Best Pizza in Italy

    Around Rome (located in Lazio), pizza also means “Slap”. If you hear a Roman say: ‘... mò te do nà Pizza! ’ (now I give you a Pizza) RUN if you don’t like confrontation, unless is joking.
    Around Italy Pizza can also mean: something flat, squashed, a pinch, a disaster, and up until not too long ago, in S. Puglia we used the word Pizzella to mean the Food, and the word Pizza to mean the man “thing”. I don’t remember the other local meanings of pizza, but there are more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    pizza word comes from antique
    Pizza is Italian invasion
    but word comes from ancient πικτη picte
    wich turns to Greek Pitta Italian Pizza Pontic Greek Pissia
    gerenally it the transform of the Picte mass to a flat surface
    It's possible that the word pizza comes from the Byzantine Greek πίτα, Gaeta and Naples were under the Byzantine rule for many years. But the recipe is another thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    It's possible that the word pizza comes from the Byzantine Greek πίτα, Gaeta and Naples were under the Byzantine rule for many years. But the recipe is another thing.
    Gaeta-no Γαετανος-Γαιτανος means captain
    infact the flag carrier, ορ high officer,
    the one who hold the Gaitania compare gaitanum

    another possible explanation is also accepted
    Last edited by Yetos; 25-03-18 at 14:46.

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    Best Pizza in Italy

    ‘A Pizza song with Lyrics (Aurelio Fierro). An old and fun popular Neapolitan Song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salento View Post
    around rome (located in lazio), pizza also means “slap”. If you hear a roman say: ‘... Mò te do nà pizza! ’ (now i give you a pizza) run if you don’t like confrontation, unless is joking.
    Around italy pizza can also mean: Something flat, squashed, a pinch, a disaster, and up until not too long ago, in s. Puglia we used the word pizzella to mean the food, and the word pizza to mean the man “thing”. I don’t remember the other local meanings of pizza, but there are more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Around Rome (located in Lazio), pizza also means “Slap”. If you hear a Roman say: ‘... mò te do nà Pizza! ’ (now I give you a Pizza) RUN if you don’t like confrontation, unless is joking.
    Around Italy Pizza can also mean: something flat, squashed, a pinch, a disaster, and up until not too long ago, in S. Puglia we used the word Pizzella to mean the Food, and the word Pizza to mean the man “thing”. I don’t remember the other local meanings of pizza, but there are more.


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    poor foreigners who would get slapped by them thanks to pizza. Oh yeah that pizza you gave me was nice even if it was a bit cold :)

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    Pizzelle: A friend of mine has the iron and makes them frequently. They're not my favorite, but they're pretty good.


    Pisello, yes, but pizza? It's even the wrong ending, surely? :)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Pizzelle: A friend of mine has the iron and makes them frequently. They're not my favorite, but they're pretty good.


    Pisello, yes, but pizza? It's even the wrong ending, surely? :)
    Just last summer, I was ordering a pizza and my cousin first gently elbowed me, and then blushing he whispered “pizzella”. I did it in purpose. lol. It’s silly.
    Those look like Waffles. :)
    Similar, but with variety of doughs, I think.
    They make them for Natale, but are usually smaller, not round, with honey and fried. In dialect: Purceddhruzzi.

    Here I also saw them at Pasqua.

    https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purceddhruzzi
    Last edited by Salento; 26-03-18 at 18:01.

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    Goodness, they were invented in the Abruzzi and a similar type wafer cookie is made in Molise and they don't know about them in Puglia?

    They're everywhere here in Italian groceries. I'm surprised you haven't come across them.

    Same with strufoli...Neapolitan in this case, but again, I saw them being sold everywhere in Italy, and here as well. Not my cup of tea...all that honey makes them too sweet, imo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Not my cup of tea
    That's the most British thing you have said Angela. I guess you got some British friends then

    That struffoli looks yummy :)

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    Just Regional differences. Of course we know what they are, but in my area we don’t usually make at home the one that look like Waffles.

    ps ... Angela, on your previous post there is a graphic error or something that I can’t view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdeoF View Post
    That's the most British thing you have said Angela. I guess you got some British friends then

    That struffoli looks yummy :)
    I do, as a matter of fact...a very nice man originally from Yorkshire. :)

    He has a very Italian palate, however, French as well. We once went to a very old school Southern Italian restaurant and I suggested he order the Pasta Puttanesca. He scarfed it up, even using a "scarpetta" or piece of bread to mop up the sauce once I told him it was permitted.

    I said to him, I guess you liked the sauce. He responded that he'd swim in it if he could! :)

    Pasta "prostitute" or "tart" style, as my friend calls it, is not for those who like bland food, as the ingredients, in addition to tomatoes, are garlic, anchovy fillets, capers, oil cured black olives, and crushed red pepper. I happen to love it, but it's not for everyone.

    Btw, my friend introduced me to Nigella Lawson and a lot of other British chefs ; he calls me Nigella for fun sometimes. :) I've picked up a couple of phrases from him, such as "Could I have a word"? Other people don't know what I'm talking about...

    This young Irish one does a good job.


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    People don't realize that "pizza" used to be a very regional food in Italy. I never had Neapolitan pizza until we came to this country.

    This was our "pizza": focaccia






    I quickly became a fan, however.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    People don't realize that "pizza" used to be a very regional food in Italy. I never had Neapolitan pizza until we came to this country.

    This was our "pizza": focaccia






    I quickly became a fan, however.


    I love focaccia. Sometimes, I even cut it like a sandwich, and put mortadella inside.

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    oh boy

    same things from antique
    but with different names?

    WE STILL DO EAT AS OUR ANCESTORS?

    Λουκουμαδες lukumades





    lukumades more bread inside




    served with honey, nuts, sesami, sirups sugar, fantastic flavor chinnamon






    as for focaccia hm
    IT IS MORE ANCIENT
    in Greek λαγανον laganon Pontic Greek Λαβας lavash (probably effect from Aryan-Iranian or Armenian)
    Strange but the Greek laganon (sound λαwhanon today) linguistic is connected with word Lasagna-ia



    and the the thin ones







    SO 4000 years now we share the same delicacies as our grand grand .... fathers
    Especially Italians, which from antique had famous grain production

    any possible conection of foccaccia word with spongia word?

    Just to remind you
    the ancients Greeks merchant a lot and colonise S Italy for its Grain production
    it was consider the best,
    the most famous grain in antique world,
    while the most productive in quantity was Crimaia, and Egypt


    BTW

    what do you believe is the best grain wheat for pizza?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    oh boy

    same things from antique
    but with different names?

    WE STILL DO EAT AS OUR ANCESTORS?

    Λουκουμαδες lukumades





    lukumades more bread inside




    served with honey, nuts, sesami, sirups sugar, fantastic flavor chinnamon






    as for focaccia
    IT IS MORE ANCIENT
    in Greek λαγανον laganon Pontic Greek Λαβας lavash (probably effect from Aryan-Iranian or Armenian)
    Strange but the Greek laganon (sound λαwhanon today) linguistic is connected with word Lasagna-ia



    and the the thin ones







    SO 4000 years now we share the same delicacies as our grand grand .... fathers
    Yes, I think we do.

    Struffoli are like tiny doughnuts. We make larger ones too. So do many other countries, of course.

    These are Zeppole...they're like French beignets:


    You can fill them too:


    The third picture in the prior post is of what we call farinata or cecina. It's not made from wheat flour but from the flour of chickpeas. It's wonderful, sweet, and creamy, but only if you eat it hot. It's one of the few foods, like a gelato, that no one criticizes you for eating on the street.

    We also make a type of pita in my area. We have retained a lot of old food customs and even food utensils. You pre-heat clay discs in the fire, and then pour in a thin batter made of just flour, water, salt, and sometimes a bit of oil, or in some places it's more of a soft dough.


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    @Yetos You say: “what do you believe is the best grain wheat for pizza?”

    imho Soft wheat flour type "0" if you don’t want to hear the Pizzaman shouting Profanity at the World as the pizza rips when he slaps the pizza dough.
    It’s also about elasticity. In Italy this flour is also used for regular bread and focaccia.
    ps Many restaurants make bread or focaccia from the leftover pizza dough of the night before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I do, as a matter of fact...a very nice man originally from Yorkshire. :)

    He has a very Italian palate, however, French as well. We once went to a very old school Southern Italian restaurant and I suggested he order the Pasta Puttanesca. He scarfed it up, even using a "scarpetta" or piece of bread to mop up the sauce once I told him it was permitted.

    I said to him, I guess you liked the sauce. He responded that he'd swim in it if he could! :)

    Pasta "prostitute" or "tart" style, as my friend calls it, is not for those who like bland food, as the ingredients, in addition to tomatoes, are garlic, anchovy fillets, capers, oil cured black olives, and crushed red pepper. I happen to love it, but it's not for everyone.

    Btw, my friend introduced me to Nigella Lawson and a lot of other British chefs ; he calls me Nigella for fun sometimes. :) I've picked up a couple of phrases from him, such as "Could I have a word"? Other people don't know what I'm talking about...
    Hahahaha he defiantly gave you some important words you can use i remember my mother saying "Could I have a word with you" and getting the biggest telling off, even from the teachers aswell at school XD

    Pasta Puttanesca/Pasta prostitute That's is some strong language for a Pasta!

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    What are the preferred toppings for pizza in Italy?
    Pizza al Nord
    1 prosciutto e funghi (89%)- Prosciutto and mushroom

    2 gorgonzola e salame (76%) Blue cheese and salami

    3 capricciosa (71%) Mozzarella cheese, ham, mushroom, artichoke and tomato- I don't like this one, probably because I don't like pizza w/cooked ham

    Donne-Women
    1 vegetariana (84%) Vegetable
    2 bresaola e rucola (82%) Air dried salted beef and arugula lettuce




    Pizza al Sud
    1 bufala (82%) Bufala mozzarella and tomatoe
    2 marinara (71%) Just tomato
    3 tonno e cipolle (64%) Tuna and onions
    Donne
    1 Norma con melanzane e ricotta salata (67%) Eggplant and dry, salty ricotta

    2 frutti di mare (59%) Seafood
    3 pomodorini, capperi e olive (45%) cherry tomatoes, capers and olives


    I don't know if I buy this. I like the southern ones a lot more. Maybe I've been in America too long?

    I do like the prosciutto and mushroom one.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    It's possible that the word pizza comes from the Byzantine Greek πίτα, Gaeta and Naples were under the Byzantine rule for many years. But the recipe is another thing.
    I agree
    The Italian pizza is much different from the Greeks foods Yetos mentioned.

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