. Read the section about E-v13 from Maciamo the creator (I Think, not sure) of this forum. Also keep in mind not all E v13 are the same. Albanians have mostly a specific clade that is different from that of Greeks, or Serbs for the matter. That's why a Kosovo E-V13 carrier looks very different from an Austria one. So picture like this: E-M78 is the Mother of E-V13. On the other hand E-v13 has many daughters, which are e-v13 of Albanians, Greeks and so on....