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    ok so we all probably heard about these news. there were chemical weaons used in syria and the us and its allies immediately punished the syrian regime under assad. and personally i feel kinda shocked how fast we here in the west came to the conclusion that the chemical weapons were used by the syrian troops, who practically already conquered the region and would have had to expect consequences for the use of chemical weapons and not the rebels who reportedly already used chemical weapons themselves too and were about to lose. the islamist rebel group was named dschaisch al-islam and already committed several crimes against religious minorities.
    so to me it seems like we actually have no idea who used these weapons and yet the usa, uk and france start to attack a side and germany's merkel calls the attacks justified and necessary. instead of dissaproving the actions of the usa the western european nations cheer to it and even participate.

    i feel like most people here in europe do not actually realize what is going on right now. this is a disregard of international law right there.

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    I'm sure you will tell us exactly what is going on. Make it easy, copy and paste from conspiracy websites.
    Assad used chemical weapons dozens of times during this war. It was proven by international inspectors that he had factory and storages of poisonous gas. It is nothing new to be surprised. Stop inventing parallel universe dude.
    Be wary of people who tend to glorify the past, underestimate the present, and demonize the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailchu View Post
    ok so we all probably heard about these news. there were chemical weaons used in syria and the us and its allies immediately punished the syrian regime under assad. and personally i feel kinda shocked how fast we here in the west came to the conclusion that the chemical weapons were used by the syrian troops, who practically already conquered the region and would have had to expect consequences for the use of chemical weapons and not the rebels who reportedly already used chemical weapons themselves too and were about to lose. the islamist rebel group was named dschaisch al-islam and already committed several crimes against religious minorities.
    so to me it seems like we actually have no idea who used these weapons and yet the usa, uk and france start to attack a side and germany's merkel calls the attacks justified and necessary. instead of dissaproving the actions of the usa the western european nations cheer to it and even participate.

    i feel like most people here in europe do not actually realize what is going on right now. this is a disregard of international law right there.
    In 99 me and my family and my entire neighborhood were kicked out of our houses by Serb Military and volunteer serb paramilitaries while Serb media was broadcasting all over belgrade and the world that

    "Albanians aren't leaving or being kicked out, some are leaving only because they are scared of other Albanians, most are leaving because they are scared of NATO bombings"

    They were sending out the most filthy lies to people like you.

    This is just one of many things i'll never forget. Maybe you've been lucky to live such a sheltered life that you can't comprehend just how much people are willing to lie, but you
    better believe that your being lied to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    I'm sure you will tell us exactly what is going on. Make it easy, copy and paste from conspiracy websites.
    Assad used chemical weapons dozens of times during this war. It was proven by international inspectors that he had factory and storages of poisonous gas. It is nothing new to be surprised. Stop inventing parallel universe dude.


    Yes,
    and before Assant,
    Sadam Houssein also had chemicals,
    and there not only bomb, but also invade with ground forces,

    While in Kossovo, the same who accuse others for chemicals,
    bomb with depleted uranium, which if its burned, stays at atmosphere for days, before drops to ground,
    and can travel enough distance as gas, so to breath it in,



    COME ON.

    Kim has Nuclear weapons, why they do not Bomb him?
    infact he even threts USA and JAPAN


    AND MOST OF ALL,
    IF THEY CARE FOR CHAMICAL WEAPONS,
    WHY THEY BOMB THEM?
    BY BOMBING DEPOSITS OF CHEMICALS IT IS VERY DANGEROUS TO RELEASE THEM IN ATMOSPHEARE,

    SO EITHER CHEMICALS WERE EXIST OR USED, OR PRODUCED, ETC
    ME AND YOU WILL NEVER KNOW.

    REMEMBER SADAM AND IRAQ FOR CHEMICAL WEAPONS,



    PS
    I am not supporter of Sadam, or Bin Laden, or Assant, etc
    But come on,
    we do not have to consume every trash news they use as excuse for their acts,


    PS2

    IN FACT USA FRANCE AND G BRITAIN HAS JUST PROVED US THAT ASSANT HAD NO CHEMICAL WEAPONS
    WHERE THEY STROKE,
    WHY?

    consider few tanks/storage of Sharin gas,
    lets say about 1-2 tons,
    Do you know what will happen if you bomb them with Tomahawk missile?
    They will be spread in atmosphere killing thousands,
    DID THAT HAPPENED?
    NO,
    So either the Attack was a failure,
    Either no chemical gasses existed


    WE DO NOT CONSUME THE TRASH OF NEW ORDER.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    Yes,
    and before Assant,
    Sadam Houssein also had chemicals,
    and there not only bomb, but also invade with ground forces,

    While in Kossovo, the same who accuse others for chemicals,
    bomb with depleted uranium, which if its burned, stays at atmosphere for days, before drops to ground,
    and can travel enough distance as gas, so to breath it in,



    COME ON.

    Kim has Nuclear weapons, why they do not Bomb him?
    infact he even threts USA and JAPAN


    AND MOST OF ALL,
    IF THEY CARE FOR CHAMICAL WEAPONS,
    WHY THEY BOMB THEM?
    BY BOMBING DEPOSITS OF CHEMICALS IT IS VERY DANGEROUS TO RELEASE THEM IN ATMOSPHEARE,

    SO EITHER CHEMICALS WERE EXIST OR USED, OR PRODUCED, ETC
    ME AND YOU WILL NEVER KNOW.

    REMEMBER SADAM AND IRAQ FOR CHEMICAL WEAPONS,



    PS
    I am not supporter of Sadam, or Bin Laden, or Assant, etc
    But come on,
    we do not have to consume every trash news they use as excuse for their acts,

    You know nothing about "kossovo" so don't use it for your polemics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johane Derite View Post
    You know nothing about "kossovo" so don't use it for your polemics.
    the effect of bombing Kossyfo and generally ex-Yugoslavia reach my country
    so Do not tell me about it.
    many UN troops suffer from depleted uranium syndrom.

    and much more kossovars,

    remember the best cancer centers in Balkans were in Thessaloniki that time, and for lemphomas and leuchaimia the second best in the world at 1990-2010
    one of the myelic transplantation pionners the founder of treatment, was a Greek who return from USA.
    and the number of Albanians and kossovars tells a lot.

    when my brother in law had problem
    for every 3 Greeks there were 2 Albanians and 1 Fyrom for chemical cure, and transplantation
    After the Kossovo bombing the rate of lemphomas raised 14% each year reaching 200% almost last decade,
    and stabilize there.

    We are living in the same peninsula.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    the effect of bombing Kossyfo and generally ex-Yugoslavia reach my country
    so Do not tell me about it.
    many UN troops suffer from depleted uranium syndrom.

    and much more kossovars,

    remember the best cancer centers in Balkans were in Thessaloniki
    and the number of Albanians and kossovars tells a lot.
    I love how humanitarian and caring you become when its politically pragmatic for you.

    Thank you for how much you seem to care about Albanians' health.

    Interesting, what were you doing to stop the massacres that Serbs were doing against Albanian civilians that you care so much about?






    This image above is very conservative as it only counts CONFIRMED kills of bodies that were found. At least 2000 people are still missing ( i know people who have family missing)
    and the Serbian government still does not tell where they are or admit it. Did you know there was a mass grave with Albanian bodies found underneath a police station in BELGRADE?
    Who knows where the rest are if they were transporting bodies all the way from Kosova to Belgrade.




    Most serbian criminals never faced court, only some high profile hague cases. Whereas most people that actualy cut up people are living their lives in Serbia having their daily coffee.




    Personalities like yours are so see through for me since I lived through it and your facade is so phony.

    How come all these sensitivities about international law only start exploding when NATO or America bombs military sites and buildings?

    How come there was no complaining about 200,000 dead in bosnia. How come when civillians are killed in extremely painful ways there is no arguing from you?


    No, no, the real tragedy of the 90s is that some buildings in Belgrade were bombed...


    Let me tell you a detail, Serbs were often using knives to conserve ammo, and the vast majority of the people slaughtered excruciatingly
    by knives were either children or over 60 years old.

    Albanians didn't have a military, they were only guerrilla fighters, many that never even had contact with each other. The vast majority of victims were unarmed civillians.

    What were you doing to stop the children and senile people that were getting their throats cut?

    Even if these cancer propaganda were true (they are 90% false propaganda, only 10% is true) it would be worth it.

    This cancer propaganda is pure cynical evil that people like Seselj push. Seselj just recently was making up lies about Albanians being born with
    two heads because of all the "uranium."

    I almost feel sorry for you that you are this gullible and believe these things.
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    @ Derite

    this thread has nothing to Do with Serbia-Albania arque about Kossovo.

    I said about bombing with depleted uranium effects
    Not about Albanians not about Serbians,


    I think I was cautious and clear on what I wrote


    WE ARE MOVING AWAY,

    THE THREAD IS ABOUT EXISTANCE OF CHEMICALS, BOMBING SYRIA, AND POSSIBLE EFECTS OF BOMBING CHEMICALS.
    NOT KOSSYFOPEDIO.


    My negative for Kossovo is clear the usage of depleted uranium BY USA AND ITS ALLIES.
    if it was needed or who was good or bad among Albanians or Serbs is another story,
    my personal view even today is split of kossovo, part to Serbia, and rest unite with Albania
    one Albania, one Serbia, not 2 Albanias, not 2 Serbias,
    What kossovo is today is just a divide and conquer by big forces, and leave a problem behind, so to need us.
    so to come back whenever they want.

    I accept your post,
    BUT I DISAGREE BY BOMBING WITH 'SMART WEAPONS' ordered by STUPID PEOPLE, FOR 'POSSIBLY REASONS', which are a possibly a hoax.



    As for sensitivities,
    we are here in the blog many years
    Just find how opposite I was in cases with atrocities in Syria,
    and also about what left the famous 'ARAB SPRING' in Africa.

    I DO NOT TRUST 'NEW ORDER' just that,
    and is proven in Libya,
    in Iraq
    and now in Syrria,

    a total failure.
    I suggest read my post better.


    I DO NOT SUPPORT ASSANT,
    BUT 6 YEARS TO SUPRESS ISIS
    AND 7 YEARS WAR IS TOO MUCH
    AND CONSIDERING THAT TURKEY MIGHT EXPAND BORDERS AT AFRIN
    IT IS JUST RIDICULOUS FOR A COMMON MIND TO SWALLOW STUPIDITY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    @ Derite

    this thread has nothing to Do with Serbia-Albania arque about Kossovo.

    I said about bombing with depleted uranium effects
    You made two comments about Kosova and these exxagerated uranium propaganda with some phony anecdotal stories about clinics. I'm leaving this thread now iapetoc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    @ Derite

    this thread has nothing to Do with Serbia-Albania arque about Kossovo.

    I said about bombing with depleted uranium effects
    Not about Albanians not about Serbians,


    I think I was cautious and clear on what I wrote


    WE ARE MOVING AWAY,

    THE THREAD IS ABOUT EXISTANCE OF CHEMICALS, BOMBING SYRIA, AND POSSIBLE EFECTS OF BOMBING CHEMICALS.
    NOT KOSSYFOPEDIO.


    My negative for Kossovo is clear the usage of depleted uranium BY USA AND ITS ALLIES.
    if it was needed or who was good or bad among Albanians or Serbs is another story,
    my personal view even today is split of kossovo, part to Serbia, and rest unite with Albania
    one Albania, one Serbia, not 2 Albanias, not 2 Serbias,
    What kossovo is today is just a divide and conquer by big forces, and leave a problem behind, so to need us.
    so to come back whenever they want.

    I accept your post,
    BUT I DISAGREE BY BOMBING WITH 'SMART WEAPONS' ordered by STUPID PEOPLE, FOR 'POSSIBLY REASONS', which are a possibly a hoax.



    As for sensitivities,
    we are here in the blog many years
    Just find how opposite I was in cases with atrocities in Syria,
    and also about what left the famous 'ARAB SPRING' in Africa.

    I DO NOT TRUST 'NEW ORDER' just that,
    and is proven in Libya,
    in Iraq
    and now in Syrria,

    a total failure.
    I suggest read my post better.


    I DO NOT SUPPORT ASSANT,
    BUT 6 YEARS TO SUPRESS ISIS
    AND 7 YEARS WAR IS TOO MUCH
    AND CONSIDERING THAT TURKEY MIGHT EXPAND BORDERS AT AFRIN
    IT IS JUST RIDICULOUS FOR A COMMON MIND TO SWALLOW STUPIDITY.
    Yes, you made one of your usual comments about the effects of uranium in Greece without backing with any source.
    17 Dec.
    Paget to the Council.
    Now the Council's letters seem to imply (words quoted) that the King will keep no strangers save the Albanoys.
    Cales, 17 Dec. 1545. Signed.
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    Οκ

    that is a source that accepts Depleted uranium
    but denies the volume about ex-yugoslavia bombing

    http://www.care.gr/post/2681/to-syndromo-ton-valkanion

    http://www.skai.gr/news/world/articl...F%CF%89%CE%BD/

    500 Italian soldiers suffered by Kossovo Syndrom or else Balkan syndrom
    and 42 Died

    In Greece no one is willing to go anymore,
    many soldiers sent Greek Goverment to courts of Justice to recogn the Balkan/Kossovo syndrom
    BUT THE ORDER OF NATO is no SYNDROM

    http://www.tanea.gr/news/greece/article/4166799/?iid=2

    Italian republic suggested a moratorium against Depleted Uranium usage by NATO
    but rejected.

    Greece Italy and Portugal Medicines testify the Syndrom and send it for discussion in EU parliament
    not the Goverments!!!!


    In German
    https://derstandard.at/3067647/255-S...ndrom-erkrankt

    Leuhemia and lemphomas

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutsc...-a-111023.html

    https://derstandard.at/1231151762147...Balkan-Syndrom

    I know, cause my family spend almost 2 years in a time of 5 for Hodgekin disease.
    I know cause I was there,
    and I know things light has never seen

    https://www.google.gr/search?rlz=1C1....0.q-ew9VzzSHA


    AND IF YOU STILL BELIVE IS A MYTH
    'FALLUJAH BABIES' VICTIMS OF DEPLETED URANIUM.

    Lamphomas had a statistic of 14/100 000 Before ex-Yugoslavia division, in Greece, at Thessaly and about 11/100 000 in Makedonia aroung middle of 1980's
    the rates around 2011 was above 40/100 000 when another person of mines suffered by lemphoma.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-..._b_326547.html

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...s-7679168.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...pleted-uranium

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    Οκ

    that is a source that accepts Depleted uranium
    but denies the volume about ex-yugoslavia bombing

    http://www.care.gr/post/2681/to-syndromo-ton-valkanion

    http://www.skai.gr/news/world/articl...F%CF%89%CE%BD/

    500 Italian soldiers suffered by Kossovo Syndrom or else Balkan syndrom
    and 42 Died

    In Greece no one is willing to go anymore,
    many soldiers sent Greek Goverment to courts of Justice to recogn the Balkan/Kossovo syndrom
    BUT THE ORDER OF NATO is no SYNDROM

    http://www.tanea.gr/news/greece/article/4166799/?iid=2

    Italian republic suggested a moratorium against Depleted Uranium usage by NATO
    but rejected.

    Greece Italy and Portugal Medicines testify the Syndrom and send it for discussion in EU parliament
    not the Goverments!!!!
    I asked you for a source about this:
    the effect of bombing Kossyfo and generally ex-Yugoslavia reach my country
    so Do not tell me about it.
    I hope this time you understand the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post
    I asked you for a source about this:

    I hope this time you understand the question.
    hmm

    Search the statistics of this team

    Ath Fassas
    I Sakellari
    Sarigiannidis

    as also the statistics of ABVD-Milan results per region

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    hmm

    Search the statistics of this team

    Ath Fassas
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    Sarigiannidis

    as also the statistics of ABVD-Milan results per region
    I have no reason to search, you have the burden of proof.

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    @ Lebrok

    Troyan war was going to happen, nomatter was Elene, Yolanda, Heidi or Caroll.
    Invasion against Sadam was going to Happen, no matter he had or not Chemicals
    Same here with Syrria of Assant, Bombing was going to happen,
    no matter he had or not chemicals,
    simply a bad excusion, but we are not stupid,
    are we?


    my reply is in post #4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    @ Lebrok

    Troyan war was going to happen, nomatter was Elene, Yolanda, Heidi or Caroll.
    Invasion against Sadam was going to Happen, no matter he had or not Chemicals
    Same here with Syrria of Assant, Bombing was going to happen,
    no matter he had or not chemicals,
    simply a bad excusion, but we are not stupid,
    are we?


    my reply is in post #4.
    I'm not surprised, that master CF showed up right away. Yetos, please get serious help. Your condition is getting worse. You might be suspended on Eupedia for a while to let people recover from this overdose of insanity recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    I'm not surprised, that master CF showed up right away. Yetos, please get serious help. Your condition is getting worse. You might be suspended on Eupedia for a while to let people recover from this overdose of insanity recently.
    Watch your tone ,you *****,because I can change your condition easily...


    Maybe next time you spare us from this happy delirium...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreptul Valah View Post
    Watch your tone ,you *****,because I can change your condition easily...


    Maybe next time you spare us from this happy delirium...
    You've just received an infraction for insulting a moderator.

    You better not be implying a threat with the part I underlined. Because that's not going to fly around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    I'm not surprised, that master CF showed up right away. Yetos, please get serious help. Your condition is getting worse. You might be suspended on Eupedia for a while to let people recover from this overdose of insanity recently.
    101 tomahawk missiles, from allies

    how many barells of Sharin had Assant?

    did the missiles hit correct?
    I did not hear about spread chemicals above Assant's Syrria,
    So what happened?

    miisiles did found target?
    or Assant did not had chemicals,
    Or he moved them in other position,
    I do not want to think the 3rd position,
    cause of simple reasons of ridiculness of agents and satellites,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailchu View Post
    this is a disregard of international law right there.
    Even if it is, so what? Is any of the sides not violating international "law"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    I'm sure you will tell us exactly what is going on. Make it easy, copy and paste from conspiracy websites.
    Assad used chemical weapons dozens of times during this war. It was proven by international inspectors that he had factory and storages of poisonous gas. It is nothing new to be surprised. Stop inventing parallel universe dude.
    mhm and you know who also used chemical weapons during this war? rebel groups. and this was also proven.
    but sure i got all my info from "conspiracy" websites? just google "dschaisch al-islam" or "army of islam".
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaysh_...emical_weapons
    look up how many % of the rebels are jihadists and islamists. it was estimated at 60% a few years ago. we have no idea who used chemical weapons and we have no idea who is the good or at least the "better" side. the best thing imo is that the west accepts assad as leader of syria at least for now and stops turkey from attacking the kurds. its better to have assad in syria than islamist groups.

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    1 members found this post helpful.
    also please read what is written under
    U.S. (Obama administration)

    "Former U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, in a speech in Aspen, Colorado on 28 June 2016, mentioned Jaysh al-Islam and Ahrar al-Sham as “subgroups” of "the terrorists" ISIL and Jabhat al-Nusra. US Obama administration officials disapproved this mention and told The Washington Post, who speculated that Kerry's comment may have been accidental, that it was inaccurate and could harm U.S. government efforts to convince the Russian and the Syrian governments not to attack Jaysh al-Islam and Ahrar al-Sham. The Post also reported that "Syrian [opposition] groups" saw Kerry's comments as an example of how the Obama administration has slowly moved toward the Russian view of Syria, which includes painting all opposition groups as terrorist organizations in order to justify attacking them.[88]
    The US State Department in July 2016 confirmed that the US administration's policy with regard to Jaysh al-Islam had not changed: Jaysh was and is not a UN-designated terrorist group, is opposed to ISIL, and is not allied to Nusra."

    the us is supporting groupls like these with weapons so of course they do not want them to be called terrorists.

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    The images we saw of those poisoned children were really terrible. Then, if i'm not mistaken, Russia has refused the creation of a commission of inquiry under the aegis of the UN. For this the bombing was inevitable.
    Trump is right when he calls Assad an animal. He was shown not only as an incapable leader, but by far exceeded his father with the massacres which he committed against his own people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post
    The images we saw of those poisoned children were really terrible. Then, if i'm not mistaken, Russia has refused the creation of a commission of inquiry under the aegis of the UN. For this the bombing was inevitable.
    Trump is right when he calls Assad an animal. He was shown not only as an incapable leader, but by far exceeded his father with the massacres which he committed against his own people.
    but who poisoned them? look up the links and you will see that the opposition is capable of using it too. and i wouldn't accept the UN either when you see that it actually does not call obviously terrorist people terrorists.

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