Results of LivingDNA from Italy

Have you uploaded your raw data on Gedmatch Genesis? If so, can you post your Harappa and Eurogenes K15 results?

LivingDNA has likely a problem with the North Italy reference population, many North Italians score small percentages of North Italy, and usually not more than 15/20%. On the other hand, North Italians can score also over 30% of Great Britain and Ireland, and this move them too far north-west, and so there is need for a reference population rich in CHG to put them back into position.

I've seen a similar pattern in a couple of persons who are mix of Ligurian and Veneto, so a mix of north western and north eastern Italian. They both score very low North Italy (one of the two scores 5% North Italy!), not more than 50/60% South European, over 30% of Great Britain and Ireland or Europe North and West (one of the two scores 39% of Great Britain and Ireland), and they both have around 5-10% of Kurdish/Iran/Pashtun.... There are even fully British people who score a bit of it.

Are these numbers for north italy only from living dna only?...............because I score for my family, 35%, 27%, 22% and 21% for my family members.( 23andme) ..........but all have 10 to 15% irish? and remainder french/german and small % of iberian or balkan
 
which one of the 7 provinces of the region of veneto are you from..........my family line paternal and maternal are from Treviso province

my latest admixture ( and seems to be slightly changing forever but settled after BigY ) is 98.8 european and 1.2 central asian ..........for what it is worth

I'm from the province of Padua.
 
Two days ago I have uploaded the raw data on Gedmatch, there is always this: Kits marked with [SIZE=+2]**[/SIZE] have been tokenized, but have not completed batch processing. They are available for one-to-one comparisons, but not one-to-many comparisons.
 
Two days ago I have uploaded the raw data on Gedmatch, there is always this: Kits marked with [SIZE=+2]**[/SIZE] have been tokenized, but have not completed batch processing. They are available for one-to-one comparisons, but not one-to-many comparisons.

Because you have uploaded the raw data on the old Gedmatch site, instead you should have uploaded your raw data on Genesis Gedmatch. LivingDNA raw data works only on Genesis Gedmatch.

Genesis Gedmatch

https://genesis.gedmatch.com/
 
Two days ago I have uploaded the raw data on Gedmatch, there is always this: Kits marked with [SIZE=+2]**[/SIZE] have been tokenized, but have not completed batch processing. They are available for one-to-one comparisons, but not one-to-many comparisons.
Guarda a destra e clicca dove dice Admixture (heritage).
 
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:


#
Population Percent
1 West_Med 22.45
2 Atlantic 20.66
3 East_Med 18.8
4 North_Sea 18.18
5 West_Asian 10.5
6 Baltic 8.09
7 Eastern_Euro 0.87
8 Oceanian 0.38
9 Northeast_African 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1North_Italian6.21
2Tuscan6.72
3Greek_Thessaly11.89
4Italian_Abruzzo12.17
5Portuguese12.63
6West_Sicilian12.64
7Greek12.97
8Spanish_Extremadura13.08
9Spanish_Murcia13.18
10Spanish_Andalucia13.3
11Spanish_Galicia13.4
12Spanish_Cataluna13.45
13Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon13.91
14Spanish_Valencia14.37
15Central_Greek14.42
16Bulgarian14.62
17East_Sicilian14.78
18Romanian15.27
19Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha15.41
20
South_Italian15.8






Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
#Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
191.2%North_Italian+8.8%Armenian@5.15
281.6%North_Italian+18.4%South_Italian@5.22
380.3%North_Italian+19.7%Central_Greek@5.27
476.7%North_Italian+23.3%Greek_Thessaly@5.31
592%North_Italian+8%Assyrian@5.36
694%North_Italian+6%Abhkasian@5.39
793.5%North_Italian+6.5%Georgian@5.4
892.3%North_Italian+7.7%Georgian_Jewish@5.4
982.5%North_Italian+17.5%East_Sicilian@5.49
1079%North_Italian+21%Italian_Abruzzo@5.5
1190.7%North_Italian+9.3%Cyprian@5.5
1257.4%North_Italian+42.6%Tuscan@5.52
1393.1%North_Italian+6.9%Kurdish_Jewish@5.52
1493.2%North_Italian+6.8%Iranian_Jewish@5.56
1593.1%North_Italian+6.9%Lebanese_Druze@5.58
1693.1%North_Italian+6.9%Kurdish@5.58
1791.5%North_Italian+8.5%Turkish@5.58
1854.7%Spanish_Cataluna+45.3%South_Italian@5.61
1993.3%North_Italian+6.7%Lebanese_Christian@5.63
2081.8%North_Italian+18.2%Greek@5.64

[h=2]HarappaWorld Oracle results:[/h]
Population
S-Indian0.77
Baloch5.20
Caucasian26.41
NE-Euro27.70
SE-Asian-
Siberian-
NE-Asian-
Papuan0.30
American-
Beringian-
Mediterranean33.56
SW-Asian5.88
San0.10
E-African-
Pygmy0.10
W-African-
 
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

HarappaWorld Oracle results:



Thanks for sharing. You're probably the most southern shifted Venetian I've ever seen so far. There are even Central Italians with results similar to yours.

The North Italian sample reference on Living DNA should be the same of that of Eurogenes K15 and Harappa, an academic sample from Bergamo.


On MDLP you could get Italian_North as first result.


Are these numbers for north italy only from living dna only?...............because I score for my family, 35%, 27%, 22% and 21% for my family members.( 23andme) ..........but all have 10 to 15% irish? and remainder french/german and small % of iberian or balkan


Yes, Sile. Only from Living DNA.
 
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[h=2]HarappaWorld Admixture Proportions[/h]
Population
S-Indian0.77
Baloch5.20
Caucasian26.41
NE-Euro27.70
SE-Asian-
Siberian-
NE-Asian-
Papuan0.30
American-
Beringian-
Mediterranean33.56
SW-Asian5.88
San0.10
E-African-
Pygmy0.10
W-African-
 
Thanks for sharing. You're probably the most southern shifted Venetian I've ever seen so far. There are even Central Italians with results similar to yours.

The North Italian sample reference on Living DNA should be the same of that of Eurogenes K15 and Harappa, an academic sample from Bergamo.


On MDLP you could get Italian_North as first result.





Yes, Sile. Only from Living DNA.


Thank you Pax Augusta, considering this results what do you think about the Near East in Living DNA?
Yes, on MDLP North Italian is first result.
 
Do you think living dna is Good for italian people or people that have italian ancestry?
 
Do you think living dna is Good for italian people or people that have italian ancestry?

That's the only company that divides Italy is several regions (North, Centre, South) besides Sardinia.
 
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

#
Population Percent
1 West_Med 22.45
2 Atlantic 20.66
3 East_Med 18.8
4 North_Sea 18.18
5 West_Asian 10.5
6 Baltic 8.09
7 Eastern_Euro 0.87
8 Oceanian 0.38
9 Northeast_African 0.08
.
Single Population Sharing:
#Population (source)Distance
1North_Italian6.21
2Tuscan6.72
3Greek_Thessaly11.89
4Italian_Abruzzo12.17
5Portuguese12.63
6West_Sicilian12.64
7Greek12.97
8Spanish_Extremadura13.08
9Spanish_Murcia13.18
10Spanish_Andalucia13.3
11Spanish_Galicia13.4
12Spanish_Cataluna13.45
13Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon13.91
14Spanish_Valencia14.37
15Central_Greek14.42
16Bulgarian14.62
17East_Sicilian14.78
18Romanian15.27
19Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha15.41
20
South_Italian15.8
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
#Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
191.2%North_Italian+8.8%Armenian@5.15
281.6%North_Italian+18.4%South_Italian@5.22
380.3%North_Italian+19.7%Central_Greek@5.27
476.7%North_Italian+23.3%Greek_Thessaly@5.31
592%North_Italian+8%Assyrian@5.36
694%North_Italian+6%Abhkasian@5.39
793.5%North_Italian+6.5%Georgian@5.4
892.3%North_Italian+7.7%Georgian_Jewish@5.4
982.5%North_Italian+17.5%East_Sicilian@5.49
1079%North_Italian+21%Italian_Abruzzo@5.5
1190.7%North_Italian+9.3%Cyprian@5.5
1257.4%North_Italian+42.6%Tuscan@5.52
1393.1%North_Italian+6.9%Kurdish_Jewish@5.52
1493.2%North_Italian+6.8%Iranian_Jewish@5.56
1593.1%North_Italian+6.9%Lebanese_Druze@5.58
1693.1%North_Italian+6.9%Kurdish@5.58
1791.5%North_Italian+8.5%Turkish@5.58
1854.7%Spanish_Cataluna+45.3%South_Italian@5.61
1993.3%North_Italian+6.7%Lebanese_Christian@5.63
2081.8%North_Italian+18.2%Greek@5.64
[h=2]HarappaWorld Oracle results:[/h]
Population
S-Indian0.77
Baloch5.20
Caucasian26.41
NE-Euro27.70
SE-Asian-
Siberian-
NE-Asian-
Papuan0.30
American-
Beringian-
Mediterranean33.56
SW-Asian5.88
San0.10
E-African-
Pygmy0.10
W-African-
below are my fathers results using same program ..........since you are from provincia Padoa , I thought he might have some affinity since a one maternal ancestor came from piombino dese
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 22.21
2 North_Sea 19.89
3 West_Med 18.1
4 East_Med 13.6
5 Baltic 10.24
6 West_Asian 6.35
7 Eastern_Euro 4.2
8 Red_Sea 3.42
9 South_Asian 0.95
10 Northeast_African 0.4
11 Southeast_Asian 0.38
12 Oceanian 0.25
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 5.4
2 Portuguese 8.08
3 Spanish_Galicia 8.1
4 Spanish_Cataluna 8.82
5 Spanish_Extremadura 8.96
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 9.21
7 Tuscan 9.45
8 Spanish_Murcia 9.46
9 French 10.46
10 Spanish_Andalucia 11.17
11 Spanish_Valencia 11.27
12 Serbian 11.34
13 Romanian 11.7
14 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 12.25
15 Bulgarian 12.55
16 Spanish_Cantabria 12.73
17 Southwest_French 13.64
18 Greek_Thessaly 13.68
19 Spanish_Aragon 13.99
20 South_Dutch 14.4
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76% North_Italian + 24% Hungarian @ 2.07
2 77.2% North_Italian + 22.8% East_German @ 2.34
3 84.7% North_Italian + 15.3% Finnish @ 2.4
4 86.4% North_Italian + 13.6% Estonian @ 2.42
5 61.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 38.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.42
6 83.4% North_Italian + 16.6% Swedish @ 2.44
7 83.9% North_Italian + 16.1% North_Swedish @ 2.46
8 83.9% North_Italian + 16.1% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.5
9 83.3% North_Italian + 16.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.58
10 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% La_Brana-1 @ 2.66
11 61.6% Spanish_Galicia + 38.4% Bulgarian @ 2.66
12 61.7% Portuguese + 38.3% Bulgarian @ 2.7
13 83.6% North_Italian + 16.4% South_Polish @ 2.72
14 60% Portuguese + 40% Romanian @ 2.75
15 84.1% North_Italian + 15.9% Ukrainian @ 2.76
16 75.5% North_Italian + 24.5% Austrian @ 2.76
17 83.9% North_Italian + 16.1% Norwegian @ 2.8
18 80.9% North_Italian + 19.1% North_German @ 2.81
19 84.9% North_Italian + 15.1% Polish @ 2.82
20 76.8% North_Italian + 23.2% West_German @ 2.84
as for myself numbers ..........they include Tuscan...........must be via my mothers line......her registry ancestor papers only place her line in veneto and friuli
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 25.78
2 West_Med 18.81
3 East_Med 13.91
4 North_Sea 13.36
5 Baltic 9.69
6 West_Asian 8.42
7 Eastern_Euro 7.71
8 Red_Sea 1.27
9 South_Asian 0.77
10 Sub-Saharan 0.16
11 Oceanian 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 6.25
2 Tuscan 9.1
 
Thank you Sile for sharing, my results in front of your father's results and yours are more from the South.
 
It is just the difference of confidence levels for each ancestry. The complete mode is the most interesting.

At present British ancestry in overestimated, but this should be fixed in later versions.

This was my experience. However, I’ve uploaded my data to Gedmatch and use those results as a corrective. Now I just wish I could find two Gedmatch results that match.

I’ve been happy with LivingDNA and am using them to test my wife’s DNA.
 
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    [h=3]Good evening!!
    I'm new here and would like to share my results:Living Dna

    Europa (sul)[/h]
    [FONT=&quot]




    80,6%[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]

    • Península Ibérica
      36,3%

    • Sul da Itália
      24,7%

    • Norte da Itália
      13,9%

    • Toscana
      3,4%

    • Sardenha
      2,4%
    [/FONT]



  • [h=3]Grã-Bretanha e Irlanda[/h]
    19,3%

    • East Anglia
      7,5%

    • Sudeste da Inglaterra
      5,1%

    • Noroeste da Escócia
      2,5%

    • Centro-sul da Inglaterra
      1,5%

    • Irlanda
      1,4%

    • Aberdeenshire
      1,4%

MyHeritage


Europa
93.3%



Sul da Europa
63.8%

Italiano
29.2%


Ibérico
26.3%


Grego e sul-italiano
8.3%




Norte da Europa e Europa Ocidental
17.5%

Irlandês, escocês e galês
17.5%




Europa Oriental
7.8%

Balcânico
7.8%




Judeu asquenazita
4.2%

Judeu asquenazita
4.2%






África
6.7%



Norte da África
5.9%

Norte-africano
5.9%




África Ocidental
0.8%

Nigeriano
0.8%






Europa
93.3%



Sul da Europa
63.8%

Italiano
29.2%


Ibérico
26.3%


Grego e sul-italiano
8.3%




Norte da Europa e Europa Ocidental
17.5%

Irlandês, escocês e galês
17.5%




Europa Oriental
7.8%

Balcânico
7.8%




Judeu asquenazita
4.2%

Judeu asquenazita
4.2%






África
6.7%



Norte da África
5.9%

Norte-africano
5.9%




África Ocidental
0.8%

Nigeriano
0.8%






I believe this Nigerian result is some noise...
 
Living Dna is absolutely terrible, and is struggling to stay afloat.

Don't rely on their results.

P.S. If you think you're a Celt, you haven't been paying attention to the academic papers.
 

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