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    Again, I'm not as "matchy", doubtless because I come from two areas which although close as the bird flies, are different autosomally.

    My closest match is once again the French admixed Corsican.

    Distance to: Angela
    3.75178624 French_Corsica
    5.88072274 I3313_Balkans_BronzeAge
    6.08295159 Italian_Tuscany
    6.18401973 Italian_Emilia
    6.32650773 I8475_NE_Iberia_RomP_atypical
    6.32865705 I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
    6.44030279 R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    6.46676117 Szolad43
    6.53661992 R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    6.62573015 ETR010
    6.62653756 Italian_Liguria
    6.95926002 TAQ022
    7.03668956 I3499_NWBalkans_PannonianPlain_Vucedol_EN
    7.04472143 I1979_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
    7.09619616 I2176_Balkans_BronzeAge
    7.14881808 R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    7.44927513 I2175_Balkans_BronzeAge
    7.45928281 Italian_Lombardy
    7.46848043 POP001
    7.67455536 Italian_Romagna
    7.88178279 Collegno36
    7.98552440 VET001
    8.01499844 TAQ006
    8.25132717 scy197_Scythian
    8.36475343 Szolad28
    8.58821285 TAQ020
    8.77719773 Bul10_Balkans_BronzeAge
    8.79924429 VEU001
    8.92554760 R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima
    8.94997207 Bul6_Balkans_BronzeAge
    9.13925599 scy192_Scythian
    9.15645128 I4331_Balkans_BronzeAge
    9.16097156 ETR006
    9.17988562 Szolad31
    9.20103255 VOL001
    9.21016829 Collegno23
    9.24135813 TAQ009
    9.30224167 R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    9.38921722 CSN013
    9.44201250 R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    9.45670661 Italian_Piedmont
    9.47997890 R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
    9.53529758 ETR013
    9.53849045 France_IA_ERS88
    9.59307563 I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge
    9.59938540 TAQ011
    9.59990625 R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    9.68682115 Italian_Marche
    9.74779462 R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio
    9.74942562 R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi

    Nice to see I'm not terribly far from Bell Beaker from Parma. I'm pretty sure that's the sample which has very little steppe in it. That correlates with the similar number I get for Neolithic Vucedol from the Balkans. So far as I know the Tuscan sample is northeast of Firenze.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dushman View Post
    With the latest update 2 of my friends went from 2 or 3% to 0% Balkan and 100% Albania and Greece.

    What did that 2-3% Balkan mean anyway?
    in my case, (maybe most other Apulians too) is probably traces of some ancestral component that the Iapygians (Dauni, Peuceti, Messapi) shared with the Ancient Populations that inhabited the highlighted locations below:


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    Distance to:
    Duarte
    5.29496931 Portuguese
    5.60963457 Spanish_Canarias
    6.29654667 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
    6.56048779 Spanish_Castilla-Leon
    6.81144625 Spanish_Galicia
    6.83142738 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
    7.15328596 EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
    7.27809041 Spanish_Valencia
    7.40270896 I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
    7.42806839 Spanish_Andalusia
    7.51741312 I12514_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
    7.74020026 Spanish_Baleares
    7.79453013 R63_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.87062895 Roman-SoldierFN_2
    7.96743999 EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
    7.98827891 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
    8.29628230 MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649
    8.34568751 Spanish_Asturias
    8.43749370 Spanish_Catalonia
    8.57093927 CrusaderKnightFrenchLebanonCrusaderSI40
    8.65500433 I3982_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
    8.79383307 I7675_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
    8.85043502 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
    8.88155955 Spanish_Aragon
    8.99556557 R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    9.14401444 I2215_Malak_Preslavets
    9.16999455 R1289_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    9.25598725 TAQ001
    9.45535298 Spanish_Cantabria
    9.54338514 I7673_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
    9.68139453 R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
    9.70848598 CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457
    9.77754570 I12515_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
    9.77754570 SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
    9.78898360 BRC003
    9.85898575 France_BA_NIED





    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.5626% / 0.56258759 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    31.8 Roman-SoldierFN_2

    27.9 I8146_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE

    18.5 Bul8_Balkans_BronzeAge

    10.3 I12648_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE

    10.1 I3574_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE

    0.8 Dai

    0.6 I1951_GD39_Ganj_Dareh_Iran_Neolithic




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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    in my case, (maybe most other Apulians too) is probably traces of some ancestral component that the Iapygians (Dauni, Peuceti, Messapi) shared with the Ancient Populations that inhabited the highlighted locations below:

    Could be, Im confused by all this autosomal thingy. If these tests can pick up such ancient ancestries from Messapians and Iapygians 3000 years ago, why Albanians dont get 20-40% Ukraine/Belarus from 1500 years ago? I also get 100% in 23andme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dushman View Post
    Could be, I�m confused by all this autosomal thingy. If these tests can pick up such ancient ancestries from Messapians and Iapygians 3000 years ago, why Albanians don�t get 20-40% Ukraine/Belarus from 1500 years ago? I also get 100% in 23andme.
    No one is 100% of something.

    These companies have determined the various base components and percentages of main populations / places.

    If the Ancestral Components Ratio of a user falls in a predetermined range assigned to a place the user could get 100% of that place / population.

    If the user does Not fully match a Main predetermined Ancestral Component, he/she get assigned percentages of his/her main closest matching places / populations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post


    MyHeritage:

    2nd Map

    You got that Vatican City Swaggg!



    PS: Yeah I know, that's Rome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archetype0ne View Post
    2nd Map

    You got that Vatican City Swaggg!



    PS: Yeah I know, that's Rome.
    … my point was that Ancestry doesn’t assign Lecce / Salento to me, though MyHeritage does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    … my point was that Ancestry doesn’t assign Lecce / Salento to me, though MyHeritage does.
    In such cases I would write them a 5 min email. Usually they take costumer feedback to heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archetype0ne View Post
    In such cases I would write them a 5 min email. Usually they take costumer feedback to heart.
    … nah, I much rather Land my carbon “footprint” into your feedback :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    … nah, I much rather Land my carbon “footprint” into your feedback :)
    did I somehow strike a nerve? I wasn't even being offensive. Guess swag must have a negative connotation over the pond...
    Either way. Salute!

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    Last edited by Salento; 22-09-21 at 15:35.

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    My results ----> much of my heritage seems to have been re-assigned to Northern Italy

    Ireland 29% -- up from 26%
    Northern Italy 27% -- up from 10% (?????)
    Southern Italy 24% -- down from 31%
    Scotland 10% -- down from 12%
    England & NW Europe 3% -- up one percentage point from 2%
    Wales 3% -- same as before
    Norway 2% -- up from zero, though my mother had previously shown tiny fraction Norway
    Russia & East Europe 2% -- same as before

    And I now have zero France ---> previously 9% (went to Northern Italy?)
    Zero Germanic Europe ---> previously 3% (went to Norway?)
    Zero Greece & Albania ---> previously 2%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post


    Here is mine.
    Apparently there was an October update. However, my results remain the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Apparently there was an October update. However, my results remain the same.
    No change; 100% North Italian.

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    … no changes, … still the same.

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    No change for me either, September results are the same as the July updated results that I disclosed in post #88.

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    Slight change for me:

    Previous results
    Greece and
    Albania 53%
    Balkans 44%
    Baltics 2%
    Eastern Europe and Russia 1%

    New Results

    Greece and Albania 48%
    Balkans 44%
    Aegean Islands 8%


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    Slight change for me:

    Previous results
    Greece and
    Albania 53%
    Balkans 44%
    Baltics 2%
    Eastern Europe and Russia 1%

    New Results

    Greece and Albania 48%
    Balkans 44%
    Aegean Islands 8%

    From my recollection, you plot fairly close to me on a PCA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    From my recollection, you plot fairly close to me on a PCA.
    I don't recall. One of these days I will plot myself on a PCA. On one of those closeness maps I score an 82 in the Peloponnese and another 82 in what is now Bulgaria with a 78 around Albania/Kossovo and Romania with 75s in Italy I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    … no changes, … still the same.

    same for me

    except 2 surnames added ( Forner and Pavanetto as close martches)
    Fathers mtdna ...... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ...... K1a4p
    Mothers line ..... R1b-S8172
    Grandmother paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
    Wife paternal line ..... R1a-Z282

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