Ancestry DNA Update

[Angela]

Again, I'm not as "matchy", doubtless because I come from two areas which although close as the bird flies, are different autosomally.

My closest match is once again the French admixed Corsican.

Distance to:	Angela
3.75178624	French_Corsica
5.88072274	I3313_Balkans_BronzeAge
6.08295159	Italian_Tuscany
6.18401973	Italian_Emilia
6.32650773	I8475_NE_Iberia_RomP_atypical
6.32865705	I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
6.44030279	R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
6.46676117	Szolad43
6.53661992	R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
6.62573015	ETR010
6.62653756	Italian_Liguria
6.95926002	TAQ022
7.03668956	I3499_NWBalkans_PannonianPlain_Vucedol_EN
7.04472143	I1979_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
7.09619616	I2176_Balkans_BronzeAge
7.14881808	R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
7.44927513	I2175_Balkans_BronzeAge
7.45928281	Italian_Lombardy
7.46848043	POP001
7.67455536	Italian_Romagna
7.88178279	Collegno36
7.98552440	VET001
8.01499844	TAQ006
8.25132717	scy197_Scythian
8.36475343	Szolad28
8.58821285	TAQ020
8.77719773	Bul10_Balkans_BronzeAge
8.79924429	VEU001
8.92554760	R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima
8.94997207	Bul6_Balkans_BronzeAge
9.13925599	scy192_Scythian
9.15645128	I4331_Balkans_BronzeAge
9.16097156	ETR006
9.17988562	Szolad31
9.20103255	VOL001
9.21016829	Collegno23
9.24135813	TAQ009
9.30224167	R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
9.38921722	CSN013
9.44201250	R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
9.45670661	Italian_Piedmont
9.47997890	R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
9.53529758	ETR013
9.53849045	France_IA_ERS88
9.59307563	I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge
9.59938540	TAQ011
9.59990625	R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
9.68682115	Italian_Marche
9.74779462	R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio
9.74942562	R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi

Nice to see I'm not terribly far from Bell Beaker from Parma. I'm pretty sure that's the sample which has very little steppe in it. That correlates with the similar number I get for Neolithic Vucedol from the Balkans. So far as I know the Tuscan sample is northeast of Firenze.

[Salento]

With the latest update 2 of my friends went from 2 or 3% to 0% Balkan and 100% Albania and Greece.

What did that 2-3% Balkan mean anyway?

in my case, (maybe most other Apulians too) is probably traces of some ancestral component that the Iapygians (Dauni, Peuceti, Messapi) shared with the Ancient Populations that inhabited the highlighted locations below:

[Duarte]

Distance to:

	Duarte
5.29496931	Portuguese
5.60963457	Spanish_Canarias
6.29654667	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
6.56048779	Spanish_Castilla-Leon
6.81144625	Spanish_Galicia
6.83142738	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
7.15328596	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
7.27809041	Spanish_Valencia
7.40270896	I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
7.42806839	Spanish_Andalusia
7.51741312	I12514_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
7.74020026	Spanish_Baleares
7.79453013	R63_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
7.87062895	Roman-SoldierFN_2
7.96743999	EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
7.98827891	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
8.29628230	MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649
8.34568751	Spanish_Asturias
8.43749370	Spanish_Catalonia
8.57093927	CrusaderKnightFrenchLebanonCrusaderSI40
8.65500433	I3982_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
8.79383307	I7675_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
8.85043502	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
8.88155955	Spanish_Aragon
8.99556557	R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
9.14401444	I2215_Malak_Preslavets
9.16999455	R1289_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
9.25598725	TAQ001
9.45535298	Spanish_Cantabria
9.54338514	I7673_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
9.68139453	R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
9.70848598	CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457
9.77754570	I12515_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
9.77754570	SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
9.78898360	BRC003
9.85898575	France_BA_NIED

Target: Duarte Distance: 0.5626% / 0.56258759 | ADC: 0.25x RC
31.8	Roman-SoldierFN_2
27.9	I8146_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
18.5	Bul8_Balkans_BronzeAge
10.3	I12648_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
10.1	I3574_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
0.8	Dai
0.6	I1951_GD39_Ganj_Dareh_Iran_Neolithic

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[Dushman]

in my case, (maybe most other Apulians too) is probably traces of some ancestral component that the Iapygians (Dauni, Peuceti, Messapi) shared with the Ancient Populations that inhabited the highlighted locations below:

Could be, I�m confused by all this autosomal thingy. If these tests can pick up such ancient ancestries from Messapians and Iapygians 3000 years ago, why Albanians don�t get 20-40% Ukraine/Belarus from 1500 years ago? I also get 100% in 23andme.

[Salento]

Could be, I�m confused by all this autosomal thingy. If these tests can pick up such ancient ancestries from Messapians and Iapygians 3000 years ago, why Albanians don�t get 20-40% Ukraine/Belarus from 1500 years ago? I also get 100% in 23andme.

No one is 100% of something.

These companies have determined the various base components and percentages of main populations / places.

If the Ancestral Components Ratio of a user falls in a predetermined range assigned to a place the user could get 100% of that place / population.

If the user does Not fully match a Main predetermined Ancestral Component, he/she get assigned percentages of his/her main closest matching places / populations.

[Archetype0ne]

MyHeritage:

2nd Map

You got that Vatican City Swaggg!



PS: Yeah I know, that's Rome.

[Salento]

2nd Map

You got that Vatican City Swaggg!



PS: Yeah I know, that's Rome.

… my point was that Ancestry doesn’t assign Lecce / Salento to me, though MyHeritage does.

[Archetype0ne]

… my point was that Ancestry doesn’t assign Lecce / Salento to me, though MyHeritage does.

In such cases I would write them a 5 min email. Usually they take costumer feedback to heart.

[Salento]

In such cases I would write them a 5 min email. Usually they take costumer feedback to heart.

… nah, I much rather Land my carbon “footprint” into your feedback :)

[Archetype0ne]

… nah, I much rather Land my carbon “footprint” into your feedback :)

did I somehow strike a nerve? I wasn't even being offensive. Guess swag must have a negative connotation over the pond...
Either way. Salute!

[Salento]

[matty74]

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[Malaparte]

My results ----> much of my heritage seems to have been re-assigned to Northern Italy

Ireland 29% -- up from 26%
Northern Italy 27% -- up from 10% (?????)
Southern Italy 24% -- down from 31%
Scotland 10% -- down from 12%
England & NW Europe 3% -- up one percentage point from 2%
Wales 3% -- same as before
Norway 2% -- up from zero, though my mother had previously shown tiny fraction Norway
Russia & East Europe 2% -- same as before

And I now have zero France ---> previously 9% (went to Northern Italy?)
Zero Germanic Europe ---> previously 3% (went to Norway?)
Zero Greece & Albania ---> previously 2%

[Jovialis]

Here is mine.

Apparently there was an October update. However, my results remain the same.

[Angela]

Apparently there was an October update. However, my results remain the same.

No change; 100% North Italian.

[Salento]

… no changes, … still the same.

[Palermo Trapani]

No change for me either, September results are the same as the July updated results that I disclosed in post #88.

[bigsnake49]

Slight change for me:

Previous results
Greece and Albania 53%
Balkans 44%
Baltics 2%
Eastern Europe and Russia 1%

New Results

Greece and Albania 48%
Balkans 44%
Aegean Islands 8%

[Jovialis]

Slight change for me:

Previous results
Greece and Albania 53%
Balkans 44%
Baltics 2%
Eastern Europe and Russia 1%

New Results

Greece and Albania 48%
Balkans 44%
Aegean Islands 8%

From my recollection, you plot fairly close to me on a PCA.

[bigsnake49]

From my recollection, you plot fairly close to me on a PCA.

I don't recall. One of these days I will plot myself on a PCA. On one of those closeness maps I score an 82 in the Peloponnese and another 82 in what is now Bulgaria with a 78 around Albania/Kossovo and Romania with 75s in Italy I think.

[torzio]

… no changes, … still the same.

same for me

except 2 surnames added ( Forner and Pavanetto as close martches)

[Malaparte]

Italian subregions now identified on Ancestry
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[Malaparte]

Attachment 13165

click on attachment to see regional map

[bigsnake49]

My wife's Ancestry DNA report just has Northern Italy and Southern Italy as the regions. No further breakdown available. Actually no further breakdown for any of the regions.

[Malaparte]

My wife's Ancestry DNA report just has Northern Italy and Southern Italy as the regions. No further breakdown available. Actually no further breakdown for any of the regions.

I have had subregions identified for Ireland and England for a couple years now, but I discovered my Italian subregion today (though I hadn't checked the website for quite some time prior). The Italian subregion is precisely where I knew my family came from, so it's no great revelation. But it's still impressive that Ancestry.com is able to determine these things.