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    Y-DNA Similarity Maps

    I decided to create some maps that use the Y-DNA data from Eupedia to compute the similarity rate between European countries (+Turkey and Caucasus).

    Obviously, this doesn't necessarily indicate direct ancestry or anything like that since the haplos are taken at the root level, i.e. R1b instead of a specific subclade.

    I've started with Southeast Europe and I'll do the rest of the regions in the coming days.

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    I think you have some old data on Albania which is clearly visible from the fact that is not matching with Kosovo. I find it strange that Bulgaria and Romania are closer to Albania than Montenegro.

    Edit: That's because you've probably you've taken into account the amount of J2, but Albania has mostly J2b and Greece has J2a, so if you do the split Albania should be closest to Kosovo, Montenegro, and perhaps Macedonia.

    Also, hap E in Albania is about 32% or more as more and more people are being tested so in the Albanian DNA project we're seeing more E-V13, J2b2, and surprisingly I1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanatis View Post
    Also, hap E in Albania is about 32% or more as more and more people are being tested so in the Albanian DNA project we're seeing more E-V13, J2b2, and surprisingly I1.
    Where did you get that percentage from?

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    Good initiative, Jarjar. What formula do you use to calculate the similarity rate?

    As Zanatis mentioned for J2a vs J2b, sometimes subclades do matter quite a lot and may skew the results. For example, most R1a in Southeast Europe is Slavic, but in Moldova more than half of it is Iranian/Scythian R1a-Z93.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ownstyler View Post
    Where did you get that percentage from?
    Maybe from here:
    http://www.gjenetika.com/statistikat/
    Y-DNA: J-L283
    Maternal Y-DNA: E-V13

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    Good initiative, Jarjar. What formula do you use to calculate the similarity rate?

    As Zanatis mentioned for J2a vs J2b, sometimes subclades do matter quite a lot and may skew the results. For example, most R1a in Southeast Europe is Slavic, but in Moldova more than half of it is Iranian/Scythian R1a-Z93.
    I've used this methodology. Certainly, it would be more meaningful if the data was split into subclades, but unfortunately for most countries in Europe, there aren't enough samples at that level. So the output won't be quite representative of the reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanatis View Post
    I think you have some old data on Albania which is clearly visible from the fact that is not matching with Kosovo. I find it strange that Bulgaria and Romania are closer to Albania than Montenegro.

    Edit: That's because you've probably you've taken into account the amount of J2, but Albania has mostly J2b and Greece has J2a, so if you do the split Albania should be closest to Kosovo, Montenegro, and perhaps Macedonia.

    Also, hap E in Albania is about 32% or more as more and more people are being tested so in the Albanian DNA project we're seeing more E-V13, J2b2, and surprisingly I1.
    I've only used the data from Eupedia, since it's standardised to the same format. If you think that the data for Kosovo is not representative of the actual spread, then feel free to share the samples with Maciamo and he will probably add them to the public repository.

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    Why don't you post some autosomes from your Szekelyland?I heard that can have even more Paleo-Balkanic genes than Kosovo...


    If you don't believe me,check the maps from the Vlach thread.

    https://books.google.ro/books?id=2vl...20keza&f=false

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanatis View Post
    I think you have some old data on Albania which is clearly visible from the fact that is not matching with Kosovo. I find it strange that Bulgaria and Romania are closer to Albania than Montenegro.
    Edit: That's because you've probably you've taken into account the amount of J2, but Albania has mostly J2b and Greece has J2a, so if you do the split Albania should be closest to Kosovo, Montenegro, and perhaps Macedonia.
    Also, hap E in Albania is about 32% or more as more and more people are being tested so in the Albanian DNA project we're seeing more E-V13, J2b2, and surprisingly I1.
    His real target is Hungary,he wants to label them as Balkano-Slavic,because the Szeklers have to be the true Magyars.

    He has that Albanoid-Vlach extreme shepherd ness that makes even the very civilised Transylvanian Hungarians from a Romanian forum to go crazy.

    He thinks that the Romanians have entered the Hungarian Kingdom from Serbia and Croatia,Vlachianizing,Balkanizing,Albanizing,most of the regions,except for the Szekelyland.


    He comes from a region of Romania where bears and wolves are just one glass friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreptul Valah View Post
    His real target is Hungary,he wants to label them as Balkano-Slavic,because the Szeklers have to be the true Magyars.

    He has that Albanoid-Vlach extreme shepherd ness that makes even the very civilised Transylvanian Hungarians from a Romanian forum to go crazy.

    He thinks that the Romanians have entered the Hungarian Kingdom from Serbia and Croatia,Vlachianizing,Balkanizing,Albanizing,most of the regions,except for the Szekelyland.


    He comes from a region of Romania where bears and wolves are just one glass friends.
    Actually you are being speculative, judgmental and racist. If you don't have anything to to say on the validity of the argument, it is wiser to say nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ownstyler View Post
    Actually you are being speculative, judgmental and racist. If you don't have anything to to say on the validity of the argument, it is wiser to say nothing.
    I'd better not see this tone next time.

    In reality,you are bothered because I have spoken about the autosomes,which are much more important.

    You stupid Serb *****,do no use these kind of words...

    If you are not able to speak like a man,then shut the **** up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreptul Valah View Post
    Why don't you post some autosomes from your Szekelyland?I heard that can have even more Paleo-Balkanic genes than Kosovo...


    If you don't believe me,check the maps from the Vlach thread.

    https://books.google.ro/books?id=2vl...20keza&f=false
    Were you addressing me? I'm from the Moldovan region in Romania, iesean bre.

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    Can you give the Y-DNA similarity between Poland other European countries? I’m curious to know which european country is the most similar to Poland, the land of my ancestors.

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    Nice maps... really

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    Do you have numbers for Moldovan haplogroups like specefic subclades?

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