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I've been lurking for a while and I'm very interested in the origin of my people. I just recently discovered population genetics and much is still incomprehensible to me, I hope this thread gains some traction so more informed people can give out some useful knowledge. Big political interests for the past century and a half have never had a problem with corrupting historical facts, as long as they fit the narratives of the geostrategic situations of the day. The study of genetics seems to be mostly driven by amateur researchers from all over the world so I am hopeful that a collective endeavour such as this would be more resistant to corruption and bastardization.
I don't know where to start, so here's some basic data I got from wikipedia:
(I2a) is presented at levels 21.9%. I2a is recorded to be the dominant haplogroup in the former Sofia-city, Sofia, Plovdiv and Varna province between 23-33%, dropping under 10% in central Bulgaria. Bulgarian Hg I2a most often belongs specifically to the P37.2, M423 branch ("Hg I2a1b"), representing 20% of Bulgarian males.
(E1b1b1a) is presented at levels 19.6% per 880 samples. The presently mostly European V13 (E1b1b1a1b1a) originated in western Asia according to the most plausible scenario and is presented at ~18% among Bulgarian males. According to deeply traced data its internal structure is divided among Z5016, Z5017 and S7461.
(R1a) is identified at 17.6%. It has been revealed that the R1a branch Z282 that is limited to Eastern Europe and separated from their Asian relative ~5000 years ago, makes up 96% of Bulgarian R1a, while the most common branch from China to Anatolia (Z93) makes up the rest 4%. Divided by the largest branches, per 880 samples the levels of the branches of R1a are - M458 - 7.4%, CTS1211(Z280) - 7.1%, Z92(Z280) - 1.9% and Z93 - only 0.7%. According to 100 samples M458 carriers constitute 56% of Bulgarian R1a carriers. Deeply traced data reveals that 90% of the sampled Bulgarian carriers of the M458 clade are carriers of the L1029 micro-clade (R1a1a1b1a1b1), which is 2-3,000 years old, and the L1029 clade of M458 alone accounts for 50% of all Bulgarian R1a per ~250 samples.
(R1b): present in Bulgarians at 10.7%. The Bulgarian internal structure is heterogeneous and 4% of Bulgarian males carry western European subclades. 3% are carriers of the 'Italo-Atlantic' Proto-Celtic branch P312, of which 2% of U152. Another 1 percent belongs to the U106 branch that corresponds with the spread of Germanic peoples. The ancestral L23 and Z2103 branch show a clear relationship with Anatolia and the Near East.
(J-M172) is presented at levels 10.5%. Several subclades within J2 are present: J-M410 (J2a) is represented at 6%, Balkan J-M12 (J2b) at 4% up to 11% in Burgas(prevailing). The prevailing is the L26 deep subclade of J2a, it is furtherly divided into M67, M92, L24 and other clades.
What does this all mean?
The single greatest obstacle for Bulgarian historiography is the very moment of her ethnogenesis. This led to the academic separation between different schools of thought, a schism that is yet to be resolved. There are those who maintain the autochthonous hypothesis, who claim that there was a great diaspora of people from Thrace and Dacia who fled from the new world order of the Roman machine, only to later come back with vengeance and a new political identity - Bulgars (presumably mixed with their new slavic, turkic and gothic friends). There are also those who maintain the foreign invaders hypothesis, insisting that the turkic, iranic or caucasian Bulgars invading the Balkans were simply filling the void of the receding roman power.
The only thing they agree on is the common acknowledgement of the core clans that made up the very first Bulgarian state in recorded history, that of Old Great Bulgaria (a.k.a. Patria Onoguria) - namely the Onogur, Kutigur, Vanandur, Saragur etc. All said clans are from the Oghur family. The Oghurs are widely considered around the whole world to be either proto-turkic peoples, or a folk who shared the same urheimat with turkics, or at least a predecessors for what we today call turkic. Not in Bulgaria though. Because of the ottoman history of Bulgaria many of us will cringe by the notion that we may have turkic blood in our veins, so to get around this fact many of our own researchers have concluded that either the Oghurs were:
A) The easternmost stretch of the Indo-European culture (Afanasevo and BMAC) who "came back" so to say to the european homeland to escape precisely the turkic expansion from Mongolia;
B) Others believe that those were simply the adopted turkic names for inventory and military titles - just like today most maritime vocabulary in even non-english speaking countries will consist of anglo-saxon seafaring terminology. Or industrial machines and tools would have mostly German names (very common in Bulgaria).
What I want to ask the elders of this forum is - how do I know? Where should I look? Any clues and tips on where to start researching?
I don't know where to start, so here's some basic data I got from wikipedia:
(I2a) is presented at levels 21.9%. I2a is recorded to be the dominant haplogroup in the former Sofia-city, Sofia, Plovdiv and Varna province between 23-33%, dropping under 10% in central Bulgaria. Bulgarian Hg I2a most often belongs specifically to the P37.2, M423 branch ("Hg I2a1b"), representing 20% of Bulgarian males.
(E1b1b1a) is presented at levels 19.6% per 880 samples. The presently mostly European V13 (E1b1b1a1b1a) originated in western Asia according to the most plausible scenario and is presented at ~18% among Bulgarian males. According to deeply traced data its internal structure is divided among Z5016, Z5017 and S7461.
(R1a) is identified at 17.6%. It has been revealed that the R1a branch Z282 that is limited to Eastern Europe and separated from their Asian relative ~5000 years ago, makes up 96% of Bulgarian R1a, while the most common branch from China to Anatolia (Z93) makes up the rest 4%. Divided by the largest branches, per 880 samples the levels of the branches of R1a are - M458 - 7.4%, CTS1211(Z280) - 7.1%, Z92(Z280) - 1.9% and Z93 - only 0.7%. According to 100 samples M458 carriers constitute 56% of Bulgarian R1a carriers. Deeply traced data reveals that 90% of the sampled Bulgarian carriers of the M458 clade are carriers of the L1029 micro-clade (R1a1a1b1a1b1), which is 2-3,000 years old, and the L1029 clade of M458 alone accounts for 50% of all Bulgarian R1a per ~250 samples.
(R1b): present in Bulgarians at 10.7%. The Bulgarian internal structure is heterogeneous and 4% of Bulgarian males carry western European subclades. 3% are carriers of the 'Italo-Atlantic' Proto-Celtic branch P312, of which 2% of U152. Another 1 percent belongs to the U106 branch that corresponds with the spread of Germanic peoples. The ancestral L23 and Z2103 branch show a clear relationship with Anatolia and the Near East.
(J-M172) is presented at levels 10.5%. Several subclades within J2 are present: J-M410 (J2a) is represented at 6%, Balkan J-M12 (J2b) at 4% up to 11% in Burgas(prevailing). The prevailing is the L26 deep subclade of J2a, it is furtherly divided into M67, M92, L24 and other clades.
What does this all mean?
The single greatest obstacle for Bulgarian historiography is the very moment of her ethnogenesis. This led to the academic separation between different schools of thought, a schism that is yet to be resolved. There are those who maintain the autochthonous hypothesis, who claim that there was a great diaspora of people from Thrace and Dacia who fled from the new world order of the Roman machine, only to later come back with vengeance and a new political identity - Bulgars (presumably mixed with their new slavic, turkic and gothic friends). There are also those who maintain the foreign invaders hypothesis, insisting that the turkic, iranic or caucasian Bulgars invading the Balkans were simply filling the void of the receding roman power.
The only thing they agree on is the common acknowledgement of the core clans that made up the very first Bulgarian state in recorded history, that of Old Great Bulgaria (a.k.a. Patria Onoguria) - namely the Onogur, Kutigur, Vanandur, Saragur etc. All said clans are from the Oghur family. The Oghurs are widely considered around the whole world to be either proto-turkic peoples, or a folk who shared the same urheimat with turkics, or at least a predecessors for what we today call turkic. Not in Bulgaria though. Because of the ottoman history of Bulgaria many of us will cringe by the notion that we may have turkic blood in our veins, so to get around this fact many of our own researchers have concluded that either the Oghurs were:
A) The easternmost stretch of the Indo-European culture (Afanasevo and BMAC) who "came back" so to say to the european homeland to escape precisely the turkic expansion from Mongolia;
B) Others believe that those were simply the adopted turkic names for inventory and military titles - just like today most maritime vocabulary in even non-english speaking countries will consist of anglo-saxon seafaring terminology. Or industrial machines and tools would have mostly German names (very common in Bulgaria).
What I want to ask the elders of this forum is - how do I know? Where should I look? Any clues and tips on where to start researching?