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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailchu View Post
    saudi arabia does have quite a lot of foreigners but its almost impossible to get citizenship for them. you can get it if your father is arab. its also possible if your mother is saudi but its a bit harder. foreign women can get it through marriage with a saudi. thats not the case for foreign men.
    its extremely hard to become saudi in another way. you definitly have to be muslim.
    those foreigners are all guest workers who are there for work and once they lose their job they are asked to leave the country.
    saudis and oreigners also live separated from each other. western people live in special compounds were they are allowed to practice their western lifestyle.
    i mean they are open for immigration over their borders into their country but they actually do not let people immigrate into their society. it's so different from actual "real" immigration in europe.
    Who wants to become Saudi anyway ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronSide View Post
    Who wants to become Saudi anyway ?
    if you were Bangladeshis, it would be great. At first you became citizen then you could bring your family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronSide View Post
    Who wants to become Saudi anyway ?
    i'm pretty sure there are quite a lot of africans and asians who would like to have the benefits of beeing saudi in saudi arabia. especially when they are already working there and see all the advantages that it would give them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailchu View Post
    i'm pretty sure there are quite a lot of africans and asians who would like to have the benefits of beeing saudi in saudi arabia. especially when they are already working there and see all the advantages that it would give them.
    yes, the same reason why they want to become European, even without the working

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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-went-wrong-eu

    "The main problem with the EU is that it incorporates loads of countries, and they are so vastly different in every way: welfare, economics, everything. To correct this the EU will have to make the richer countries poorer. So I would like to do a Swexit – have a referendum like in the UK, and leave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gyms View Post
    To correct this the EU will have to make the richer countries poorer.
    We call it social justice. The problem is managing.

    Germany and France with Benelux countries should start new EU.

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    Here we go again:The populism and dystopia of Italy's new government

    Changing old words with new words is
    deceptive imho.
    Social Justice:
    The distribution of wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society.
    Communism:
    is a type of government that relies on collectivization of labor and good.

    A wolf (communism) in sheep's clothing (social justice).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silesian View Post
    The other day I had a interesting talk with a Jordanian who had just come from Scotland . His father had worked for [more than 10 years] in one of the Gulf countries. So I asked him where his father liked it the best Canada /Gulf
    I've heard/read similar accounts. It seems to me the states (I can't say how the general society feels about it, it must have a wide variation from region to region, person to person) are willing to accept foreign work, but not heavy and direct foreign influence at the very core of the citizenry and national culture, which would definitely happen if they just gave citizenship and full rights to the huge portion of foreign residents within their territories (IIRC in the UAE the native Arabs are now less than 20% of the population!).
    Last edited by Ygorcs; 27-05-18 at 20:26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Changing old words with new words is
    deceptive imho.
    I won't argue with a murican
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    About Gulf Countries, Arab-Foreigner Populations
    http://gulfmigration.eu/gcc-total-po...-2016-numbers/

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    Here we go again:The populism and dystopia of Italy's new government

    Quote Originally Posted by Boreas View Post
    I won't argue with a murican
    “I ain’t a Murican” (Derogatory for American). I’m an American.
    EDITED —- bc You don’t deserve to Know my Story!
    Your Comment implies that I should refrain from expressing my views on European and ME-NA political, and Social matters, because being an American has clouded my perspective, and that I don’t understand your part of the World.
    Last edited by Salento; 28-05-18 at 00:00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boreas View Post
    I won't argue with a murican
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    Insult another nationality again and you'll get an infraction. Clear?


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    Giuseppe Conte, Italian prime minister-designate, has resigned the mandate. Because the President of the Republic Sergio Mattarella has not accepted the name proposed as Minister of Economy for his anti-EURO feelings. It is in the constitutional rights of the President of the Republic to act like this, and tomorrow he will try to appoint as Prime Minister-designate the economist Carlo Cottarelli. But apparently Cottarelli does not have a majority of consensus in the Parliament. So either something happens or we will be back to elections soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bicicleur View Post
    there is more
    they promote an 'Italia first' policy
    it involves making more debts and breaking EU austerity rules
    we've seen where that has lead to in Greece
    More complicated than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    Giuseppe Conte, Italian prime minister-designate, has resigned the mandate. Because the President of the Republic Sergio Mattarella has not accepted the name proposed as Minister of Economy for his anti-EURO feelings. It is in the constitutional rights of the President of the Republic to act like this, and tomorrow he will try to appoint as Prime Minister-designate the economist Carlo Cottarelli. But apparently Cottarelli does not have a majority of consensus in the Parliament. So either something happens or we will be back to elections soon.
    he most likely refused after a chat with brussels...........sounds like what happened with the economy misters of Greece and UK in the past ............EU already rule the economies of the 27 or 28 EU nations.
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    Even if Italy goes to the polls again , the same scenario can happen in regards to the economy minister
    có che un pòpoło no 'l defende pi ła só łéngua el xe prónto par èser s'ciavo

    when a people no longer dares to defend its language it is ripe for slavery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    “I ain’t a Murican” (Derogatory for American). I’m an American.
    EDITED —- bc You don’t deserve to Know my Story!
    Your Comment implies that I should refrain from expressing my views on European and ME-NA political, and Social matters, because being an American has clouded my perspective, and that I don’t understand your part of the World.
    I am not sorry to use word murica, The aim is not an insult. However I am sorry to misundertand me orr cause this misunderstnading.

    It is very common word between countryball community.
    (Muricaball / Long Live Murica)
    http://polandball.wikia.com/wiki/USAball

    Even I shared a smurf post to make clear that it is a joke term.

    Murica term is a symbol for Conservative American culture, not more.

    Your wolf - communism post make me with that you are very conservative American. Thinking all lefting ideology are part of communism, is political insult.

    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    EDITED —- bc You don’t deserve to Know my Story!
    I suggest you to take a one glass of wine to get relax.

    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    I don’t understand your part of the World.
    So did you insult my part of world ?

    We are living on same planet my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Changing old words with new words is
    deceptive imho.
    Social Justice:
    The distribution of wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society.
    Communism:
    is a type of government that relies on collectivization of labor and good.

    A wolf (communism) in sheep's clothing (social justice).


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    Here we go again:The populism and dystopia of Italy's new government

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    ps @Exceededminimumso you must do something about your name, is way too long. lol

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    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/28/e...ntl/index.html

    He said Conte's candidate, Paolo Savona, was unacceptable because the appointment would alarm investors and have dangerous consequences for Italy's outstanding government debt.

    Viva la Democrazia!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQGvfp3DSb8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    Giuseppe Conte, Italian prime minister-designate, has resigned the mandate. Because the President of the Republic Sergio Mattarella has not accepted the name proposed as Minister of Economy for his anti-EURO feelings. It is in the constitutional rights of the President of the Republic to act like this, and tomorrow he will try to appoint as Prime Minister-designate the economist Carlo Cottarelli. But apparently Cottarelli does not have a majority of consensus in the Parliament. So either something happens or we will be back to elections soon.
    you should better change your whole political system too. how is one guy alone able to destroy everything just because someone is not following the same political line?

    also nice story from france that is now in every newspaper:
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8372456.html

    that's how easy it is to become french. macron is even a bigger clown than trump.
    and if you're a legionnary you still have to serve france 3 years until you get your citizenship.

    edit: if you look closer you actually see that the guy on the balcony saved the child. he already grabed the leg of the child and wanted to pull him up but then other guy arrived.
    Last edited by Ailchu; 28-05-18 at 23:30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gyms View Post
    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/28/e...ntl/index.html
    He said Conte's candidate, Paolo Savona, was unacceptable because the appointment would alarm investors and have dangerous consequences for Italy's outstanding government debt.
    Viva la Democrazia!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQGvfp3DSb8
    .
    Again #3......the Italian peoples vote counts for nothing ...........a new technocrat government formed by the president ........another "Monte" mayhem , ruled by Brussels.
    .
    EU is not democratic ...............watch what will happen to the UK and Brexit.
    .
    Also the irish where forced to go to the vote year after year until they joined the EU......remember this scenario
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    EU......Paris and Berlin from Brussels ...............the rest are "sub-capitals"

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    You can't even eat non-bent bananas without politically correct EUpire jumping down you throat

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    Wait, EUpire forced Ireland to vote whatever they want to join EUpire? The nerve of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by exceededminimumso.. View Post
    Wait, EUpire forced Ireland to vote whatever they want to join EUpire? The nerve of them
    if you make the right promises you can make people vote for quite a lot of things. that goes for votes for joining but also leaving the eu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    Even if Italy goes to the polls again , the same scenario can happen in regards to the economy minister
    Most likely.

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    It's just trying to negate the popular vote. Even if I think Italians were beyond stupid to vote this way, it shouldn't be negated.

    Just more rule by the EU if they just appoint a technocrat, and who says the voters will come to their senses in the meantime?

    What a mess.

    Not that I have a workable solution. Nobody would vote for the package I'd propose, not even the so-called "right wing" parties. Too much socialism has weakened the brain of even them.

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