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    T haplogroup famous member

    famous member had T haplogroup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmak View Post
    famous member had T haplogroup?
    Thomas Jefferson
    An American Founding Father who was the principal author of the Declaration of Independence and later served as the third President of the United States from 1801 to 1809.
    Y T Haplogroup.



    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson

    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_T_Y-DNA.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    House of Al Sabah and Khalifa
    Al Sabah is kuwaiti aristocracy
    Most Kuwaiti come from Persian descent who came from elamites
    https://bmcgenomics.biomedcentral.co...864-015-1233-x
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    There should be a lot of L ydna and some T ydna who same say began as the Lurs people north of the Elamites ( still Persians ).
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    https://www.nature.com/articles/jhg2010174
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    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0074913
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    when a people no longer dares to defend its language it is ripe for slavery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Thomas Jefferson
    An American Founding Father who was the principal author of the Declaration of Independence and later served as the third President of the United States from 1801 to 1809.
    Y T Haplogroup.



    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson

    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_T_Y-DNA.shtml

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    The Thomas Jefferson Memorial, modeled after the Pantheon of Rome:





    His Huge bronze Statue inside:




    Thomas Jefferson was the principal author of the Declaration of Independence.
    “We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, ...”

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    Library of Congress - Thomas Jefferson Building:







    Jefferson’s copy of “The Prince” - “The Works of Niccolò Machiavelli”.



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    Capitol Building (USA Congress Building) Statue of Jefferson holding the Declaration of Independence.

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    Lurs are not descended from Persians. They have branched out from Kurds but have been influenced by Persian culture and language over centuries. I am of Kurdish descent and have T haplogroup on both sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caucasus View Post
    Lurs are not descended from Persians. They have branched out from Kurds but have been influenced by Persian culture and language over centuries. I am of Kurdish descent and have T haplogroup on both sides.
    Depends which stories you believe

    Persians come from Tajik and Uzbek areas and moved to Iran circa 1000BC , they where originally called Parsi ( they also brought with them Zorastrian religion )...the Medes are first cousins of the persians and the Kurds are first cousins of the Medes.
    The Parsi remained in Iran and went to western India.

    Only famous Parsi I know of was Freddie Mercury from the band Queen , born in Zanzibar but his father was a Parsi from Iran.

    There is a link between Persians, Medes and Kurds......I do not know where Elamites, Lurs and Gutians fir in though

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    Sile, I agree that it is a complex issue. It is my understanding though that lots of historians consider Gutians among the early ancestors of Kurds. One thing I am not sure about is whether Medes and Persians brought haplogroup T to Iran from Euroasian steppes or did it belong to indigenous Gutian, Elamite population with whom they later intermixed? I would appreciate any feedback on this.
    By the way, for those interested in biblical perspective, there are prophesies in the Old Testament about Elamates which very much parallels the plight of modern-day Kurds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caucasus View Post
    Sile, I agree that it is a complex issue. It is my understanding though that lots of historians consider Gutians among the early ancestors of Kurds. One thing I am not sure about is whether Medes and Persians brought haplogroup T to Iran from Euroasian steppes or did it belong to indigenous Gutian, Elamite population with whom they later intermixed? I would appreciate any feedback on this.
    By the way, for those interested in biblical perspective, there are prophesies in the Old Testament about Elamates which very much parallels the plight of modern-day Kurds.
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    Bible perspective all state that haplogroup LT which split into L and T belong to the Madai ( Medes)
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    You can ask these questions in the ..ftdna Tower of babel Project ( if you believe these things )
    https://www.familytreedna.com/groups...of-babel/about

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    That is pretty interesting. I am not sure about how much of this biblical perspective is backed by science but it does not seem to be very far from the truth considering that Medes disintegrated into many smaller nations such as Kurds and Azeris (later turkified with the arrival of Selcuk Turks in 12th century) after Persians usurped power and ended the Median rule. From my reading of many posts, this haplogroup likely originated around Zagros mountains, a territory inhabited and ruled by Medes.

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