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    Classify this long faced guy

    The most dolichocephalic person I've ever seen.

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    I would say Italian (maybe from Sicily)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriele Pashaj View Post
    I would say Italian (maybe from Sicily)


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    Hmm interesting, are there people who look like him in Sicily ? I've never been there so I don't know.

    And I don't know the ethnicity of this guy, so I guess we'll take what the majority says eh ?

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    I'd say he looks North African. Tunisian, Moroccan, even Egyptian perhaps. Sicilian, really? The Sicilians I've seen are nothing like that, but I know few of them.

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    What I know of this guy is that he was thought to be Somali or South Asian by some people

    Maybe they weren't serious when they classified him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygorcs View Post
    I'd say he looks North African. Tunisian, Moroccan, even Egyptian perhaps. Sicilian, really? The Sicilians I've seen are nothing like that, but I know few of them.
    I would agree, that or maybe a Yemeni.

    I've never seen a Sicilian who looks like that, much less any other Italians, and I know hundreds of them.

    These are a pretty good cross section of the ones I know.



    Students from a small town outside Palermo who were helped by the Zimbardo foundation:


    Some famous Sicilians who came immediately to mind:


    Luigi Lo Cascio


    Robert Loggia:


    Luca Parmitano-astronaut


    Andrea Camilleri-author


    Falcone and Borsellino-heroic Sicilian prosecutors executed by the Mafia





    This is about as "exotic" as it gets: Francesco Scianna


    Giuseppe Fiorello:


    Yet, his brother:


    Sicilian women can range from this...Maria Grazia Cucinotta




    To this...Giusy Buscemi


    Obviously, these are both actresses. Not all Sicilian women are as beautiful as Giusy Buscemi. A lot of Sicilian women are very brunette yet more beautiful than Cucinotta, imo.


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    Could he pass as generically Jewish?

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    Is he Saudi or Emirati?

    Definitely not Sicilian nor Northern African.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik View Post
    Is he Saudi or Emirati?

    Definitely not Sicilian nor Northern African.
    Oh, why is he not North African, I was starting to believe that.

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    Ok .. to make this more fun :)

    His top 20 single population approximation on the obscure MDLP K11 are:

    1 British_Roman @ 6.001090
    2 Levant_BA @ 14.017159
    3 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 31.779898
    4 Levant_N @ 32.145798
    5 Armenia_Chalcolithic @ 38.976364
    6 Armenia_MLBA @ 40.086998
    7 Armenia_EBA @ 41.122478
    8 Armenia_MBA @ 41.551567
    9 Natufian @ 43.673512
    10 Armenia_LBA @ 45.345383
    11 Iran_LN @ 45.496170
    12 Vestonice14_Gravettian @ 46.969986
    13 Anatolia_Chalcolithic @ 50.425327
    14 Kostenki14_Upper_Paleolithic @ 51.699745
    15 Muierii2_Upper_Paleolithic @ 53.063374
    16 Hungary_IronAge @ 55.522408
    17 Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic @ 57.532307
    18 Vestonice13_Gravettian @ 58.699421
    19 Kostenki12_Upper_Paleolithic @ 58.751595
    20 Russia_IA @ 59.414711

    and some mixed modeling:

    3 pops:
    50% British_Roman +25% Iran_Chalcolithic +25% Levant_BA @ 3.996500

    4 pops:
    Armenia_MBA + Levant_BA + Levant_BA + Levant_BA @ 5.028132
    Armenia_LBA + Levant_BA + Levant_BA + Levant_BA @ 5.587782
    Armenia_MLBA + Levant_BA + Levant_BA + Levant_BA @ 5.711761

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronSide View Post
    Could he pass as generically Jewish?
    I've never seen a Jew who looks like him except perhaps Yemeni Jews, and there's controversy as to how much Jewish ancestry they actually have.
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    Samaritans, who are pretty close, are very different.
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    Seems like some t-roll put this out there, particularly as he didn't reveal the actual ethnicity.

    When people don't reveal the actual ethnicity and a link to check it, it's usually a big red flag.

    Based on the modeling, Yemeni or perhaps some Bedouin like people in the Sinai might be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriele Pashaj View Post
    I would say Italian (maybe from Sicily)

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    I would say no.

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    I've always wondered whether I'm a tr0ll or not.

    I know I'm honest, in tr0lling ? this duality is a gift from the green god of primordial darkness.

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    I thought this pic 1; Saudi , pic 2; Yemeni because he looks more gracile , more long faced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronSide View Post
    I've always wondered whether I'm a tr0ll or not.
    I know I'm honest, in tr0lling ? this duality is a gift from the green god of primordial darkness.
    You're too sensitive. :) I was speaking of the person you said first posted it.

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    Classify this long faced guy

    About the MDLP British_Roman population.
    Is there any of you who can provide some information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronSide View Post
    The most dolichocephalic person I've ever seen.

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    Maybe from Egypt ...


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    I must add also that I’m so sorry that I said that he was MAYBE from Sicily .... my intention was not offensive ... bhooo

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    Classify this long faced guy

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriele Pashaj View Post
    I must add also that I’m so sorry that I said that he was MAYBE from Sicily .... my intention was not offensive ... bhooo
    I saw a remote similarity with a younger Franco Battiato, but maybe not. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    I saw a remote similarity with a younger Franco Battiato, but maybe not. lol
    Thank you for your answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriele Pashaj View Post
    Thank you for your answer
    Yeah, don't mean to start an argument, but people shouldn't be offended over inaccurate guesses in classification threads like this, it ruins the fun and discourages participation. I doubt you were t-rolling unless you guessed him as Chinese or Russian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davef View Post
    Yeah, don't mean to start an argument, but people shouldn't be offended over inaccurate guesses in classification threads like this, it ruins the fun and discourages participation. I doubt you were t-rolling unless you guessed him as Chinese or Russian.
    I understood thank you


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    I don't know what game some of you think you're playing, but I'm not amused.

    Please let's not pretend there's not a cottage industry out there posting the most exotic Sicilians they can find and then saying all Sicilians look like some Middle Eastern or even Indian or God knows what other nationality. NONE of it is done honestly or with good intent. I don't know who you think you're kidding.

    Some Sicilian phenotypes overlap with some phenotypes from Turkey or the Middle East. There's nothing unexpected about that or offensive in pointing it out. Most don't. There's a lot of variation in Sicily, as I tried to show.

    @Ironside,
    Please repost the pictures, preferably as imgur shots so they don't disappear again. I'd like to take a shot at finding out who he is.

    You didn't find it odd that the person who has his pictures AND his gedmatch results won't tell you his actual nationality? Pretty t-rollish behavior, wouldn't you say?

    If you didn't want my reaction you shouldn't have sent me a pm requesting my participation.

    @Lenab,
    The first two pictures indeed look like Sicilians, some of the models don't. How do you know they're Sicilians?


    Franco Battiato:



    I didn't think of him, probably because the original subject looked so dark. There is some similarity. Is whomever started this happy now? Mission accomplished?

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