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Thread: If you are taller than 183 cm (6 feet), then what is your Y-DNA haplogroup ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gidai View Post
    I was thinking of doing this poll to see if, or how much, the height of the men is correlated with Y haplogroup. Because of the limited options offered by the poll and the number of haplogroups, the survey is simple. It refers to those who have a height of at least 183 cm (6 feet).
    188 cm, but my father was only 177 cm at peak height, his father and grandfather quite a bit less. While there is a genetic element to it, you will face an uphill battle trying to prove it correlates with YDNA, since we know a lot of factors are based on diet. We know the European hunter-gatherers were heavier boned and taller than the Neolithic immigrants. In modern day, factors like diet/access to food, sleep deprivation, pollution will negatively affect your height, which would have been major limitations during the industrial revolution and so forth.

    Interesting because my best friend is also Maltese and taller than me, although he does have a British great grandparent. I've tried to get him to do a YDNA test or 23andMe for years with no luck. My sister's in-laws who share Iberian/Italian Maltese ancestry are not tall.

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    E-V13
    MtDNA haplogroup
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    My opinion is that it's autosomal and not a Y thing. I'm around 2 m tall and so was almost everyone in my father's family as far back as everyone remembers. Male in my mothers family are only 10 cm shorter. The point is that I'm E-V13 and I wouldn't say that people with this haplo are necessarily tall people. But where I come from, this height is not unusual. Even women are often taller than the European male average (my sister is 181 cm). Like I said, it's probably about all 23 pairs of chromosomes. Height is not only a Y chromosome trait inherited from fathers to sons.

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    After 21 participants, G still seems to be leader with over 14%. This is over three or four times his spread.

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    I1 Z63*
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    YDNA doesn't control height at all....it may be correlative in tall societies but it's not causative.

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    The fact that Y chromosome plays a role in human height development is clear. Also look at the XYY syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XYY_syndrome that results in a higher height on average by 7cm.

    Just I found a complex scientific study showing that such a survey is not superfluous. For those who want to read: https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...70677X16300065 Besides factors such as nutrition, healthcare and national wealth, genetic factors (Y haplogroups) are included as well. Read at Cap. 3.11. Genetics: North Africa and the Near East.
    The conclusions are interesting and can already be seen in this poll! Among the studied haplogroups, G-M201 is most correlated with the high stature.
    Last edited by gidai; 31-07-18 at 20:33.

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    J2b2-L283
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H

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    Quote Originally Posted by don_joe View Post
    My opinion is that it's autosomal and not a Y thing. I'm around 2 m tall and so was almost everyone in my father's family as far back as everyone remembers. Male in my mothers family are only 10 cm shorter. The point is that I'm E-V13 and I wouldn't say that people with this haplo are necessarily tall people. But where I come from, this height is not unusual. Even women are often taller than the European male average (my sister is 181 cm). Like I said, it's probably about all 23 pairs of chromosomes. Height is not only a Y chromosome trait inherited from fathers to sons.
    Croat males were something like 165cm back in 1880, iirc from that study they increased in height more than even the Dutch till today. It's alot to do with environment, conditions and diet.


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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    J1-PF7263 (BY38105)
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    A4a1 (A1a)

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    My paternal grandfather was exactly 1.83 (and was very tall for his generation in Greece). His haplogroup was J1- PF7263. My father is shorter than him (1.75). I think that the genes of my grandmother might have contributed to this shortening My mother who has seen lots of children in her practice throughout her career (she is a pediatrician) says that a somewhat short mother can have as an effect that the sons become shorter than their father (even if their nutrition or living standards are better than those of the previous generation). It is an empirical observation, but having it in mind I have also observed this many times (of course, there are always exceptions). Similarly I have observed cases of tall mothers contributing to tall sons of short fathers. It must be a more complex process.
    Another interesting fact (which I have observed in many other cases too) is that my aunt (my father's sister) is taller than my dad (1.76) taking after her tall father. So, there is also an observable pattern of tall daughters of tall fathers, analogous to short sons of short mothers/ tall sons of tall mothers.

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    I1-M227 and 191cm

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    the average height evolved in Europe according to diet, in Spain for example my parents had a height of 1.65, were children of the Spanish Civil War, however I measure 1.80 and my children 1.84, by Therefore, at least in Spain, diet is essential.

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    190cm Jpf5456

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    There are multiple studies linking genes on the Y-chromosome to standing height; they account for several centimeters of variation. I cannot post links because I have to have 10 posts to do that, but you can look them up for yourself. :-D

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R-M222 (NW Irish)
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    H1bi

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    Quote Originally Posted by gidai View Post
    Not claim scientific rigor, but Y-chromosom gives the male characteristics, among which is the greatest height of the men compared to women? Why not some haplogroups mutations do not have as effect small differences? :) Anyway you just contradict yourself... lol
    Male pattern baldness is inherited on the X chromosome.

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    N-Z16975
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    With all due respect, this is a completely pointless exercise.

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    Larry Bird former NBA basketball player. Height 2,06m.
    YDNA G2a2b2a (Z6748)

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    I2 is the second most common in Europe and ranked 4-5 here? lool ... wake up.

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    Haplogroup G

    Bro1: 181-182 cm (?)
    Bro2: 190 cm
    Bro3: 195 cm
    Sis: 179-180 cm
    Me: 185 cm

    Cousins through paternal uncles
    Males
    1: 187 cm?
    2: 188 cm
    3: 187 cm (this one is a cousin through both paternal uncle and maternal aunt)

    Females
    1: ?
    2: ?
    3: 177 cm (a cousin through both paternal uncle and maternal aunt)

    My sis and female cousin are also tall, and they don't have Y chromosome, je je. So it has to do with our Autosomal.

    ED: correction.
    Last edited by Regio X; 24-09-19 at 01:15.

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1a-YP445
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    My brother is taller than six feet and he is R1a.

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    J2b2-L283 and 190cm . I don't think Y-DNA plays a role at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bâști View Post
    I2 is the second most common in Europe and ranked 4-5 here? lool ... wake up.
    I2 is not the second most common haplogroup in Europe, that's BS.

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    R1a-yp1276 and 187 cm.

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    Last edited by I(); 29-09-19 at 00:52.

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    Height is mostly determined by nutrition as a child

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ury/index.html

    Parents give their kids vitamins and all sorts nowadays allowing them to grow bigger

    I would think "races" who were taller in the past than others around them had different nutrition and were more athletic/sporty from an early age

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShpataEMadhe View Post
    Height is mostly determined by nutrition as a child

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ury/index.html

    Parents give their kids vitamins and all sorts nowadays allowing them to grow bigger

    I would think "races" who were taller in the past than others around them had different nutrition and were more athletic/sporty from an early age
    Indeed. My mother has just 160 cm, and my father's height, despite a bit higher than 180 cm, absolutely doesn't justify the children's. I assign mother's height to an excess of polenta and insufficiency of meat in her diet when she was a child. ah ah

    Even in this generation... Pediatrician applied the most used formula to estimate my son's height in adulthood, and said he couldn't be higher than 188 cm given the height of parents, and that's already considering the margin. However, also according to the pediatrician, considering his current height, he'd be 190 cm "if" he follows the curve, 2 cm above the supposed "maximum". He indeed loves "protein", and I doubt it doesn't interfere in his growth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Haplogroup G

    Bro1: 181-182 cm (?)
    Bro2: 190 cm
    Bro3: 195 cm
    Sis: 179-180 cm
    Me: 185 cm

    Cousins through paternal uncles
    Males
    1: 187 cm?
    2: 188 cm
    3: 187 cm (this one is a cousin through both paternal uncle and maternal aunt)

    Females
    1: ?
    2: ?
    3: 177 cm (a cousin through both paternal uncle and maternal aunt)

    My sis and female cousin are also tall, and they don't have Y chromosome, je je. So it has to do with our Autosomal.

    ED: correction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertColumbia View Post
    Male pattern baldness is inherited on the X chromosome.
    I can't agree with this, most of the men on my dads side are bald/balding. I am sure both x and y play a role, that's why a lot of brothers can have different hairlines
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Indeed. My mother has just 160 cm, and my father's height, despite a bit higher than 180 cm, absolutely doesn't justify the children's. I assign mother's height to an excess of polenta and insufficiency of meat in her diet when she was a child. ah ah

    Even in this generation... Pediatrician applied the most used formula to estimate my son's height in adulthood, and said he couldn't be higher than 188 cm given the height of parents, and that's already considering the margin. However, also according to the pediatrician, considering his current height, he'd be 190 cm "if" he follows the curve, 2 cm above the supposed "maximum". He indeed loves "protein", and I doubt it doesn't interfere in his growth.
    Yeah I think genetics play a part but not as much as people think like the last 100 years have proved, they seem to play a minor role. The right food at the right time seems to allow someone to reach their limit or go beyond, a lot of boys are significantly taller than their fathers nowadays like your example

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