This Croatian sample is really interesting and it does look like a BY611 and possibly even Z2705, but hard to say without SNP confirming it (I sent an email to the Slovenian admin about it so hopefully he responds). DYS607 doesn't seem that stable under Z2705, we have few samples in our project even confirmed Y32147+ who have DYS607=14, so it's all over the place.
Yes indeed. Same thing with Trifunovski, he speaks of Turks from Konjare and few other villages around there but doesn't mention any in D'lga. He only speaks of D'lga when he mentions the Albanians there. Not that familiar with the autosomal DNA of Balkan Turks but thought that was surprising him scoring 100%. Not just that but also his autosomal matches are predominantly Albanian.
I am that Turk from D'liga village of Kumanova,
I am ofcourse autosomally almost no different to Albanians, because my mother, my father's mother, my grandpa's mother and great grandpa's mother all are Albanian so this intermarrying made me so close to Albanian autosomal. the only difference is i have %1 east asian components, that is how much left after mixing so much with Albanians, a typical Turk from Turkey have average of %10 East Asian components, Turks from Bulgaria have average of %8 and Turks from Eastern Macedonia has average of %4 East Asian components depending on the region. These are average thou, sometimes it is as less as %1 sometimes high as %20 we have good amount of samples in several Turkish dna projects.
As you know autosomal dna completely changes after 6 or 7 generations of mixing so after 5 generations of Albanian brides i almost have became like a typical Albanian autosomally. My gedmatch kit number is: T018225 if you want to check.
Our known family history in the D'liga village is not so old, we have been there maximum for 150 or 200 years, as our elders told us that we have migrated to D'liga from Debar (i dont know macedonia Debar or Albania Debar) due to a murder our great great grandpa did(probably his name was Suleyman) but we always knew that we came to Debar earlier from Bursa(Karacabey) as an imam and that is how it is written in the Ottoman Tax archives, but some elders say we had come to Debar from the north like Tataristan and some says we were always in Debar and we are actually Albanians, so it is actually unknown, but if they were really Albanian then how and why would they be assimilated into being Turkish while living in Albanian lands, doesn't make sense.
Closest Muslim villages to our village are Konjare villages(Turks) and Romanovtse(Ramalija-Albanian village) we always gave our girls to Konjare as brides but we got our brides from Romanovtse except my mom, she is from Studenicani. Women in our family are all Albanian and they learnt Turkish afterwards but men in our family speaks no other language than Turkish, they don't know any other language, they have learnt only Serbian in the army service during Yugoslavia time and they are not really fluent. By the way my grandpa always told me he and my grandmother could not speak at all in first 6 months of their marriage
he couldn't speak Albanian and she couldn't speak Turkish.
I personally don't believe the migration from Anatolia even thou it is in the Ottoman tax archives but we surprisingly use very much archaic Turkic words and traditions that are used by Turkic tribes in Ural region, that is interesting, plus some of the elders in my paternal line has very much asiatic phenotypes, like very much slanted eyes, less facial hair high cheek bones, but some of them looks typical European, i would love to test their autosomal dna but they all have passed away in recent years.
My Y dna is tested by family tree dna with 37 markers and ftdna predicts R1b M-269 then i have calculated my str results on nevgen and it predicts Z2103-BY611 with %100 probability but i didn't buy snp pack, it is prediction with my 37 markers by nevgen. I have only one match on ftdna and that is a Bulgarian guy from thracian region, i contacted his friend and he said he is an orthodox Bulgarian and he doesn't have a different background as far as he knows, he only tested y12 thou so i can't see if he matches me on other markers too. i have no any other match, only him and he is Bulgarian that is interesting.
My y37 str results with ftdna orders:
12,24,14,11,11-11,12,12,13,13,11,29
14,8-9,11,11,25,15,19,30,14-16-16-17
12,11,19-23,15,15,18,17,36-37,12,12
im open to hear any information, some guy said my subclade may be mutated recently therefore it only has one Y12 match, i don't know if that is the case, im not really expert on these, just learning and enjoying