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    How much do you agree with British Men's Rights Activists?

    These seem to be their most important postulates from their 2015 manifesto, how much do you agree with it?:

    1. HEALTH

    a. In the UK there are two national screening programmes for female-specific cancers, none for male-specific cancers, although as many men die from prostate cancer, as women die from breast cancer.

    b. A public inquiry is required to identify viable strategies to improve men’s health, with a view to developing a national men’s health policy. An inquiry is required to consider prostate cancer specifically, with a view to introducing initiatives to increase survival rates dramatically. This will inevitably require a considerable increase in public funding of research into, and treatment of, the disease. A national screening programme for prostate cancer should be introduced as a matter of urgency. Men over the age of 40 should have their PSA levels measured annually.

    c. Developing the capacity of individual men to improve, maintain and monitor their own health is vital. From pre-school onwards, information and advice should be delivered in a manner consistent with male viewpoints. This should incorporate health promotion, education, the personal development necessary to utilise services effectively, the self-confidence to request and accept help, and the ability to cope with changes in physical and mental functioning.

    d. Boys should be given the HPV vaccine.

    e. Hormone replacement therapy should be available on the NHS for men, as it is for women.

    f. GP surgeries should allow people to register near to where they work, as well as near to where they live. At least one GP practise in each area should be open for everyone – not just people registered with that particular practise – until 21:00 on weekdays, and 09:00 to 17:00 on Saturdays.

    g. More resources should be devoted to identifying men suffering from depression, and treating them appropriately.

    h. More resources are required to diagnose and treat the mental health conditions of men in prison.


    a. Male Genital Mutilation on individuals under the age of 18 should be illegal other than on grounds of medical need. All MGM operations should be registered, the reason(s) for them being performed recorded, and the related information passed to the Department of Health for publication. Until MGM is made illegal, it should only be performed after the application of local anaesthetic. Only medical practitioners should be permitted to perform the operation, and only in registered medical premises. Men may choose voluntarily to have MGM performed on themselves any time after their 18th birthday.


    a. The government should strive to reduce the male unemployment rate which is higher than the female unemployment rate and has been for many years.

    b. There is another serious aspect to male unemployment:

    - Unemployment is known to be a key driver of marital breakdown,
    - Unemployment is also known to be a key driver of the high male suicide rate,
    - Suicide is the leading cause of death of men under 50 in the UK

    4. SUICIDE

    a. Male/female suicide rate differential in the UK nearly doubled between 1982 and 2012, from 1.69:1 to 3.3:1. Suicide is the leading cause of death of men under 50, 26% of men between the ages of 20 and 34 who die have committed suicide (only 13% of women in the same age band). A public inquiry should be held to explore the male suicide rate, and determine a practical strategy to reduce it. This should include measures to address the root causes of what drives men to take their own lives, as well as what is needed to better identify men at risk of committing suicide, and what essential support is needed.


    a. Almost 90% of street homeless are men. The stream of young people moving into social housing after being in care would diminish rapidly if families were stronger, family breakdowns less common, and fewer young people placed in care in the first place. Our proposals on strengthening families by ending the ‘winner takes all’ system in the family courts would help reduce the problem of homelessness.

    b. It is iniquitous that men forced out of their family homes after family breakdowns are deemed 'intentionally homeless’, even when they have left their homes to escape abusive partners. Local Authorities should bear a responsibility for providing them with accommodation, if they are not in a financial position to afford accommodation.


    a. Armed Forces veterans are being denied adequate support for dealing with mental health issues, including Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.

    b. It is unacceptable that a dual diagnosis is being used to deny veterans concurrent treatment for both mental health issues and substance abuse problems (generally alcohol). Resources must be increased to the point that all veterans with a dual diagnosis receive prompt and comprehensive treatment for both problems. Many veterans are not receiving the support they need following a ‘dual diagnosis’ of possible mental health issues and substance abuse. The NHS typically requires them to be ‘clean’ for a number of months – often six or more – before becoming eligible for treatment. The substance being abused is generally alcohol, a depressant, which makes treatment more difficult. However, these men risked their lives for their country, and deserve the extra investment that would be required to treat men with dual diagnosis.


    a. Victims of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome should be entitled to criminal injuries compensation from their mothers for inflicting Grevious Bodily Harm on the unborn child.

    In 2014, a test case was brought by lawyers on behalf of a six-year-old girl. Three Court of Appeal judges were told that the 17-year-old mother was drinking ‘an enormous amount’ while pregnant, including a halfbottle of vodka and eight cans of strong lager a day. However, the judges ruled the girl was not entitled to criminal injuries compensation from her mother. In a later section of our manifesto, on the criminal justice system, we explore the issue of women often not being held accountable for their actions and inactions. If men were treated as leniently as women by the criminal justice system, five in every six men in British prisons wouldn’t be there (according to evidence provided).


    a. Fathers and paternal grandparents are being denied access to their children and grandchildren following family breakdowns.

    b. Separated fathers should have reasonable access to children after family breakdowns

    Around one in four children lose contact permanently with their fathers following family breakdowns, mainly due to the failure of the family court system to ensure them reasonable access. This is emotional abuse of children, fathers, grandparents and others. More than 90% of the parents denied reasonable access to their children by family courts are fathers, but we support the rights of all parents to be granted reasonable access to their children after family breakdowns. The combined effect of family breakdowns and an anti-male family law system has led to 24% of all British children having no contact with their fathers. These children are more likely to suffer disadvantage throughout childhood and adult life. The reluctance to reform this system among those who work in the industry (lawyers, judges, court staff, court experts) is driven more by financial self-interest than concern for the welfare of children. Family Law has become a multi-billion pound industry. We propose a simplified legislative model, intended to remove the need for the great majority of contested court proceedings in cases where parents have separated and are unable to agree the living arrangements for their children. (...)


    a. Proposal: the option of all-boy schools with all-male teaching staffs should be introduced for these communities that want them.

    b. Women are given financial assistance denied to men, e.g. at Brunel University, only women doing one-year-long MSc courses in Engineering are given an additional £22,750.

    The state education system has become ever more dominated by female teachers over many years. Between 1970 and 2010 the proportion of female primary and nursery school teachers rose from 77.4% to 87.4%. Over the same period, the proportion of female secondary school teachers rose from 45.4% to 62.3%. The state education system is run with the objective of advantaging girls over boys from their earliest years. In an interesting analysis, William Collins wrote of teachers’ pro-female bias starting to create a ‘gender education gap’ in 1987/88, when ‘O’ levels were replaced by GCSEs. The gap appeared for the first time that year concurrently with the introduction of continuous assessment by teachers. Predictably, the gap has led to women now taking the majority of university places (57% in 2012/13). The long-term trend for there to be less physical activity in schools is known to have a negative impact on boys’ academic performance, contributing to the gap. A larger problem is the sexism of female teachers, which contributes even more. A study conducted by researchers at the London School of Economics found that boys have realised female teachers award lower grades to boys than to girls, they’re demotivated by this, and don’t work as hard. Girls don’t exhibit the same demotivation with male teachers. The growing influence of feminists in education is a disturbing but predictable development, following the feminization of the teaching profession. Karen Woodall wrote an article on the matter, ‘Brainwashing Boys: Feminist Doctrine for the Early Years’, following a speech given by Yvette Cooper, Shadow Home Secretary.


    a. Five out of six men in British prisons wouldn’t be there, if men were sentenced as leniently as women for the same crimes.

    b. The prison population in the UK is around 84,000. Over 80,000 of these are men. William Collins published a detailed article, ‘UK prisoners: the genders compared’. It ends with the following conclusion: Men are subject to massive gender discrimination in the criminal justice system. If male offenders were treated in the same way as female offenders, there would be only one-sixth of the number of men in prison. About 68,000 men would not be in prison if they were female, leaving a male prison population of only 13,000.

    c. For men, prison patently isn’t working as a deterrent. Conditions in many men’s prisons are brutal. It’s been estimated that 72% of prisoners have at least two mental health issues, and prison has been described as ‘long-term warehousing of the mentally ill’. Most prisoners have mental health issues – as well as drug dependency, illiteracy, and innumeracy – and prisoners’ time could be used to address these issues, but it isn’t. The coalition has cut spending on rehabilitation programmes. As testament to the ineffectiveness of prison, we need only look at re-offending rates. Of the male prisoners released from prison in 2003, almost a third returned to prison within a year, almost half within three years, and 59% within 10 years. The government needs to go beyond warehousing male criminals, and to invest a great deal more on rehabilitation. It should hold a public inquiry to explore why other countries have far lower re-offending rates than the UK, with a view to following their examples

    d. In an age of equality, it is iniquitous that the justice system treats men far more harshly than women. The government should hold a public inquiry into the matter, with a view to ensuring that the justice system becomes gender-blind. Men and women convicted of the same crimes should be equally likely to face incarceration, and serve the same sentences.


    a. The government should create a new cabinet position, Minister for Men and Equalities, to represent the interests of men and boys. The office holder should be a man, and should have access to the same level of resources that are available to the Minister for Women and Equalities.

    b. Jess Phillips (a Labour MP selected from an all-women shortlist) tried to block the application of Philip Davies (a Conservative MP) to hold the first debate on men’s issues ever to be held in Parliament, on International Men’s Day, November 19, 2015. Happily, the debate went ahead, anyway. Ms Phillips won a ‘Toxic Feminist of the Month’ award in recognition of her attempt to block it.


    Today, fatherhood is being systematically removed from society by governments of all political hues who espouse the Harman/Hewitt political doctrine, through the family courts in their decisions about child access after divorce, and through the widespread development of single parenting, usually single motherhood. Fatherhood is deemed unnecessary by the state, so taxpayers are subsidizing sperm banks for single women and lesbians. At the lower end of the social scale, women are choosing what has become known as ‘bureaugamy’ - marriage to the state. They are having children with no intention of being married, and seeking the support of the state as the surrogate father. Given that men collectively pay 72% of the income tax collected in the UK, women are effectively replacing men as partners, with men as taxpayers. Findings from a recent study suggest that children who experience parental separation are more likely to report psychological distress when they reach their 30s than those who grow up in an intact family. Furthermore, the findings indicate that this association does not diminish over time across generations.

    Teenagers living without their biological fathers:

    - Are more likely to experience problems with sexual health
    - Are more likely to offend
    - Are more likely to smoke
    - Are more likely to drink alcohol
    - Are more likely to take drugs
    - Are more likely to play truant from school
    - Are more likely to leave school at 16

    Young adults who grow up not living with their biological fathers:

    - Are less likely to attain qualifications
    - Are more likely to experience unemployment
    - Are more likely to have low incomes
    - Are more likely be on income support
    - Are more likely to offend and go to jail
    - Are more likely to suffer from long term emotional and psychological problems
    - Are more likely to have children outside marriage or outside any partnership

    Proposals to restore healthy fatherhood:

    a. Tax advantages for married people should be restored (or introduced in countries which never had them).

    b. The state should stop subsidizing sperm banks for single women as this encourages fatherless families.


    a. Male victims are being denied support. Men are almost 4/5 of all domestic violence victims.

    b. Intimate Partner Violence is not a gendered problem but a generational problem, women are as physically aggressive as men towards intimate partners, as evidenced for example by a 2013 study ‘References Examining Assaults by Women on their Spouses or Male Partners: An updated annotated bibliography’.

    c. Gender biased family services discriminate kids by working from the feminist perspective of seeing a woman who is vulnerable instead of a woman who is dangerous to her children.

    d. Male victims (29%) are nearly twice as likely as female victims (17%) to not tell anyone about the partner abuse. Only 10% of male victims will tell the police (27% women), only 22% will tell a person in an official position (38% women) and only 10% (15% women) will tell a health professional.

    e. Virtually all refuge places are allocated to women and children. Without reducing the support given to female victims of IPV, Local Authorities should make funding available, and other support, to groups supporting male victims, whether through the provision of helplines, refuge places, or in other appropriate ways that take account of men’s needs in crises such as this. The amount of funding and support should reflect what is known about the proportion of victims of IPV who are men. Funding should include awareness raising initiatives to make men aware of the existence of support services.

    f. The government should introduce mandatory IPV perpetrator courses – for both male and female perpetrators.


    a. Women are responsible for a substantial proportion of sexual offences, including sexual abuses of children. People struggle to recognize women as perpetrators of sexual and non-sexual violence, in spite of the weight of evidence showing them to be frequent perpetrators of both. This is because the public has become conditioned to viewing men as perpetrators, and women as victims.

    b. It’s known from a major American survey that over 25% of sex offences are committed by women against men (with no male accomplices). We would therefore expect the male/female ratio of people charged with sex offences to be a little under 3:1. The real ration in the UK in year 2013 was 146:1.

    c. A major public information initiative should be developed to educate men and children about the issue of sexual abuse carried out by women.

    d. A public inquiry should be held to establish why women are so rarely held accountable for the sex offences they commit, with a view to holding them properly accountable in the future.


    a. Women possess considerable reproductive rights, but choose their responsibilities. They can abort unborn children, have their children adopted, or bring up the children themselves – if they’re single mothers, largely at taxpayers’ expense. In stark contrast, a man has no rights at any stage, but is expected to bear heavy financial responsibility for his children, even when his partner has chosen to become pregnant without his express consent. A man’s consent to sex is not the same as his consent to fatherhood.

    b. Paternity fraud is an egregious assault on men’s human rights – it is fraud. It is also a cruel assault on the children who are born into this arrangement, whether or not they later learn who their true fathers are. William Collins has written impressive articles on paternity fraud, touching on the iniquity of DNA paternity tests having no legal validity unless the mother agrees to the tests being carried out - which must change.

    c. Paternity fraud is such a grave assault upon the human rights of men and children that attempted (but failed) paternity fraud should attract a minimum three month prison sentence. Where a woman has carried out a proven paternity fraud, her minimum prison term should be 12 months. Where the fraud has continued for more than three years, her prison term should be 12 months plus three months in prison for each year of fraud. Frauds relating to two or more children should attract consecutive, not concurrent, sentences.


    a. Men’s lives can be ruined by false rape allegations. The men’s accusers enjoy anonymity, while the men don’t.

    b. The government should introduce legislation to protect the anonymity of people suspected of having committed sexual offences, until and unless the individuals have been convicted of the offences.

    c. The government should introduce a registry of people convicted of making false sexual offence allegations.

    17. DIVORCE

    a. In an age of equality and no-fault divorce, when women have had the same employment rights as men for many years, it cannot be fair or just that divorced people have a right to a share of assets owned by their ex-spouses before they married, nor a share of assets acquired after marriage, other than to the extent to which they personally contributed to the creation or purchase of those assets.


    a. The government should set the ages at which men and women are entitled to receive the state pension, at levels which ensure that (on average) men and woman can expect to draw their state pension for the same number of years.

    19. ABORTION

    Elective abortions are permissible in Britain up to 24 weeks after conception, yet medical teams are fighting to save the lives of foetuses of around that age, and increasingly they are succeeding. Conversely, there are medical teams at work in the same hospitals killing foetuses of the same age, prior to extracting their dead bodies from their mothers’ wombs. We find this morally indefensible. There comes a point at which the basic right to life of an unborn child overrides the right of a woman over her body. One person’s rights end where another person’s rights begin. In an age when contraception has long been readily available and highly reliable, women should be held morally accountable for the children they conceive. J4MB believes there’s a point in pregnancy when society – and the law – needs to recognize the right of the unborn child to life. There’s no evidence to support the thesis that abortion reduces the risk to mental health of women with an unwanted pregnancy, and clinical trials to investigate the matter would, of course, be highly unethical. There is, however, some evidence to suggest that abortion itself increases the risk to mental health, so medical practitioners who authorize abortions on mental health risk grounds are doing so in the knowledge that there’s no body of research to support their authorizations.


    a. Therefore, in the UK the Abortion Act (1967) should be amended to limit women’s right to have an abortion on the grounds of reducing the risk of injury to their mental health to a maximum of 13 weeks after conception. At this stage the gender of the embryo is unclear, so this would result in the end of gender-specific abortions, the incidence of which in the UK is a matter of some dispute.

    b. The Abortion Act (1967) should remain unchanged with respect to women’s rights to have abortions carried out on the grounds of reducing the risk of injury to their physical health.

    Last edited by Tomenable; 17-08-18 at 05:55.

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