Politics Germany's Far Right Never Went Away

unfortunately that is how it is today in politics
politicians should folow a long time policy to do what is good for the country and to fullfill what they promised in election time
instead they are chasing the news of today, which will be forgotten by tomorrow

I don't say they should forget about the riots in Chemnitz
but they should restrain themselves
and react and act when the dust is settled and when view has become clearer

and you're right, this Hans-Georg Maassen makes the same mistake should have been more accurate and precise before saying anything
it only demonstrates that the events became an emotional media game
 
Couldn't quickly find data for the 1930s, but this is the religious break down in the late 19th century. I don't know whether some of these areas would have been able to vote. The definite ones were indeed more Protestant, so religion may have had an impact.

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To put these maps into a bit more context.

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Just a bit of trivia: the vast majority of Americans of German descent who can't be precisely distinguished between France and Germany come from these southern and southwestern and western areas.

These areas also practiced a Druidic like religion. I think that there is a large Gallic like substrate here, with probably higher levels of EEF originally, as well as more absorption of more "Southern European" like people.
 
The traditional border between "West" and "East" in Europe has always been the Elbe, and several decades of unified Germany after 1871 - unified by force, and by an Eastern state at that (Prussia-Brandenburg) - could not change something that is 1500 years old (at least). Austria too always had more ties with the east, also geographically (Danube river connection + location east of the Alps).

The above written sentence is a very wrong and misleading information. The Elbe river HAS NEVER been the border between the East and the West in any sense, historical or political one. Maybe one exception could be 40 years of so called Iron Courtain or forcible partiable replacement of population after 1945 but this as well in a very limited sense.
 
To put these maps into a bit more context.

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Just a bit of trivia: the vast majority of Americans of German descent who can't be precisely distinguished between France and Germany come from these southern and southwestern and western areas.

These areas also practiced a Druidic like religion. I think that there is a large Gallic like substrate here, with probably higher levels of EEF originally, as well as more absorption of more "Southern European" like people.

I've had quite some bussiness experiences in Eastern Europe after the fall of the iron curtain.
When the East Germans got D-Marks for there Ostmark, these 'Ossies' came to Belgium to buy consumer goods (textiles & furniture ..).
It lasted some 15 months, untill they had spend their money they had gotten for free because of some mad West-German politician.
The Ossies never expressed much gratitude and they didn't built their own economy, they've always relied on West-Germany.
They always complained because they were envious of the Western Germans.
A few years later Poland, The Chech Republic, Slowakia became consumer markets.
I visited these countries few times. They were building their own economy from scratch, without much help from outside.
I liked to visit these countries because there was so much optimism, being able to build their own economy, free from the communist yoke.
I never heard somebody complain over there.
There is still a lot of frustration going around in Eastern Germany, but IMO they only have to blaim themselves.
This is typical Eastern German, it is not an Eastern European phenomenon.
 
The above written sentence is a very wrong and misleading information. The Elbe river HAS NEVER been the border between the East and the West in any sense, historical or political one. Maybe one exception could be 40 years of so called Iron Courtain or forcible partiable replacement of population after 1945 but this as well in a very limited sense.

yes, I agree, we should look at the iron curtain
this left a big imprint, all other historic doesn't have much to do with it
it made an east-west divide in Europe, while the natural, historical divide in Europe is more north-south
 
Come on, the self-proclaimed bourgeois right immediately rushed to the defense of the nazi mob. Migrants were chased, there were nazi salutes, calls for the murder of foreigners. They brought this on themselves.

yes it did happen, nobody questions that
but how big is the phenomenon?
is it nationwide or has this more to do with hooliganism?
 
in the mean time the controversy about the genuinity of the footing with neo-nazis chasing foreigners is going on
the oposition is already demanding Hans-Georg Maassen to resign
why did he tell such things?
was he so stupid to undermine his own position or does he have some genuine indications to doubt the authenticity?

http://www.knack.be/nieuws/wereld/h..._knack&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1536340091

If he does have any evidence he had better produce it right away. Otherwise, his injudicious and rash statement may cost him his job.

If he didn't have any evidentiary basis for his comments, then he's either too impulsive and not in control of himself, or he's in sympathy with right wing rioters and hooligans. Either way, he would be a dangerous man for that position, and either way, if I were a German citizen, I'd want him out.

Of course, in America, looking at our elected officials, I can barely find anyone not impulsive, injudicious, illogical, irrational, blinded by agenda or party loyalty or self interest and dishonest and glory seeking to boot, so there you go.
 
As to votes for the Reichstag, of course it varied year by year, but this is what it was in 1933. It would seem to support "The Guardian" author's contention that there is something different about eastern Germany.

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There is one major fallacy in your statement quoted above. It is as follows:

The "eastern Germany" you are talking about, is now in Poland, and nearly all Germans left it.

What is now East Germany (such as Sachsen, Mecklenburg) was not so Pro-Nazi back in 1933.

Do you realize that during the final stages of WW2 and after WW2 Germans from East Prussia, West Pomerania, East Brandenburg and Lower Silesia fled, were evacuated or were deported / expelled to the west - and that they mostly went to West Germany (not to DDR)?

Most of Germans who left Eastern Europe as the result of the outcome of WW2, settled in British, American and French occupation zones. So descendants of these Germans from areas which had the highest support for the Nazis in 1933, now live mostly in West Germany.

Just like Eastern Poles from areas annexed by the Soviet Union, were deported to Western Poland (west of the 1938 border):

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/36865-Eastern-(Kresy)-Poles-in-modern-Poland?p=551609

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This map shows why genetic studies such as Kayser 2005 were jokes. Kayser sampled Poles from LB and DS (whose ancestors lived in what is now Ukraine and Belarus before WW2), and he did not even sample Poles from WP (Wielkopolskie), who are the real Western Poles in a genetic sense.

It can be annoying when geneticists are so ignorant about history, ethnography, etc. (often about archaeology too).

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Also between WW2 and the Fall of the Berlin Wall, thousands fled from Communist Germany to West Germany.

So today it is all mixed, and in West Germany there live much more of "Slavic-admixed" people than back in 1900.

If you want I can post detailed statistics, showing where in Germany did former Eastern Germans settle after 1945.

Some people think that Germans expelled from Eastern Europe settled in Communist Germany (DDR). This is wrong. The majority went to West Germany. And if you look at migration patterns in the last 70 years, there has been a constant influx of people moving from DDR to West Germany.

So you can find "Slavic Germans" in every region of modern Germany, not just east of the Elbe like before the World Wars.
 
Western part of Poland inhabited by Poles expelled from Ukraine/Belarus after WW2 is now the most liberal or "Pro-European" part of Poland.

I guess we cannot blame Slavic admixture for conservative or right-wing views, after all!
 
From what I could quickly find:

In Czechoslovakia, "Czechoslovakia:
Transfers of population under the Potsdam agreements lasted from January until October 1946. 1.9 million ethnic Germans were expelled to the American zone, part of what would become West Germany. More than 1 million were expelled to the Soviet zone, which later became East Germany.[106]"

I don't know what the percentages were for places like Poland, Russia, etc.

My point was never, despite your attempts to put words in my mouth, that there is some correlation between attraction to fascism and Slavic ancestry.

What I had thought was a possibility is that the Germans who were under Communist totalitarian rule for so many decades, and under Prussian rule, in some instances, for centuries before that, and before that of the Teutonic Knights, might have retained political beliefs which were totally discredited in the West. Everything really isn't about genetics.
 
I saw in the news yesterday a mob of these German alt-rights throwing stones at a Jewish restaurant shouting anti Semitic slurs and other related garbage. This was in response to crimes committed by immigrants, and these crimes had nothing to do with the restaurant or the owner himself. Just seeing these people in action spitting their venom and throwing rocks at someone's business (on top of their Nazi views, the worst part about them imo) without regrets was enough to drive me mad

note: not calling out conservatives, just idiots like those mobsters who threw the rocks at the restaurant
 
"Hitler's first electoral support came mainly from the 29% Protestant minority within Bavaria. In the May 1924 elections for the Bavarian state parliament 'most of the Volkischer vote of 17.1% came from the small town Protestant areas around Franconia'."

Of course, but Hitler was a good Catholic, as was the Pope/Church who went along with his agenda as his intentions became clear. Hitler and the formation of the Nazis were not clear with their agenda when they were elected. The party rose to power because it was revolutionary and nationalistic, which would have certainly run a chord with a religious minority of ethnic Germans. That was not inherently evil, as initially, nobody was suggesting death of Jews, Slavs, Roma, political opponents..etc
 
Of course, but Hitler was a good Catholic, as was the Pope/Church who went along with his agenda as his intentions became clear. Hitler and the formation of the Nazis were not clear with their agenda when they were elected. The party rose to power because it was revolutionary and nationalistic, which would have certainly run a chord with a religious minority of ethnic Germans. That was not inherently evil, as initially, nobody was suggesting death of Jews, Slavs, Roma, political opponents..etc

Absolute bunk. Hitler was absolutely NOT a good Catholic. He HATED the Church all his adult life. The Nazis considered it a "Jewish" religion and wanted to return Germany to its pagan beliefs. That wasn't a new idea, either. My God, ever heard of Wagner? Where do you get this crap?

The Pope may have been a coward and unwilling to take on the Germans too strongly given that they occupied Italy and encircled the Vatican, and also that he feared they would destroy the Church and send all Catholics to camps as well, but there is NO EVIDENCE whatsoever that he supported that murderous and racist ideology. In fact, the Church was responsible for saving innumerable Jews in monasteries and convents, and priests and nuns, with the tacit approval of their superiors, were involved in resistance work in France and Italy at least, if not in Germany.

Equally asinine is any suggestion that the Nazis were not clear in their agenda from the beginning. Outright, open racists were among his earliest and most fervent followers. They also bankrolled him, along with industrialists and ex-army people. Have you never read Mein Kampf, for Christ's sake? It's insane anti-Semitism from beginning to end and it was written in 1924!

The ideology is even older than that:

"February 24, 1920
Nazis outline political agenda

The first public meeting of the Nazi party, then called the German Workers’ Party, takes place in Munich, Germany. Adolf Hitler issues a "25 Point Program" outlining the party's political agenda. The party platform embodies racism. It demands racial purity in Germany; proclaims Germany's destiny to rule over inferior races; and identifies Jews as racial enemies. Point 4 concludes that "No Jew, therefore, may be a member of the Nation."


https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nazi-racism

How much clearer could it be? Hitler's earliest mentor and bankroller of the Nazi party was a notorious anti-Semite, Dietrich Eckhart. Hitler was already part of anti-semitic circles when he was penniless in Vienna. It's not that it would have been hard to find them. Anti-semitism was an important part of the cultural zeitgeist in Austria and Germany since the late 1800's.

Instead of reading modern racist tracts, pick up a copy of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich". It's still one of the best resources for the era, and it is particularly good in describing the milieu out of which Nazism arose.

Dietrich Eckhart: He was writing anti-semitic plays in 1912.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Eckart

Alfred Rosenberg: Executed after his trial at Nuremberg. Good riddance to an evil S.O.B.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Rosenberg

Inform yourself before you open your mouth; we don't need any more uneducated musings. Or perhaps it's just part of your agenda to spread deliberate lies. Continue it and there will be consequences.

"Around a third of Germans were Catholic in the 1930s. The Church in Germany had spoken against the rise of Nazism, but the Catholic aligned Centre Party capitulated in 1933 and was banned. In the various 1933 elections the percentage of Catholics voting for the Nazis party was remarkably lower than the average . Nazi key ideologic Alfred Rosenberg was banned on the index of the Inquisition , presided by later pope Pius XII. Adolf Hitler and several key Nazis had been raised Catholic, but became hostile to the Church in adulthood. While Article 24 of the NSDAP party platform called for conditional toleration of Christian denominations and the 1933 Reichskonkordat treaty with the Vatican purported to guarantee religious freedom for Catholics, the Nazis were essentially hostile to Christianity and the Catholic Church faced persecution in Nazi Germany. Its press, schools and youth organisations were closed, much property confiscated and around one third of its clergy faced reprisals from authorities. Catholic lay leaders were targeted in the Night of the Long Knives purge. The Church hierarchy attempted to co-operate with the new government, but in 1937, the Papal Encyclical Mit brennender Sorge accused the government of "fundamental hostility" to the church.Among the most courageous demonstrations of opposition inside Germany were the 1941 sermons of Bishop August von Galen of Münster. Nevertheless, wrote Alan Bullock "[n]either the Catholic Church nor the Evangelical Church... as institutions, felt it possible to take up an attitude of open opposition to the regime".[1] In every country under German occupation, priests played a major part in rescuing Jews, but Catholic resistance to mistreatment of Jews in Germany was generally limited to fragmented and largely individual efforts. Mary Fulbrook wrote that when politics encroached on the church, Catholics were prepared to resist, but that the record was otherwise patchy and uneven, and that, with notable exceptions, "it seems that, for many Germans, adherence to the Christian faith proved compatible with at least passive acquiescence in, if not active support for, the Nazi dictatorship".[2]
Catholics fought on both sides in the Second World War. Hitler's invasion of predominantly Catholic Poland ignited the conflict in 1939. Here, especially in the areas of Poland annexed to the Reich—as in other annexed regions of Slovenia and Austria—Nazi persecution of the church was intense. Many clergy were targeted for extermination. Through his links to the German Resistance, Pope Pius XII warned the Allies of the planned Nazi invasion of the Low Countries in 1940. From that year, the Nazis gathered priest-dissidents in a dedicated clergy barracks at Dachau, where 95 percent of its 2,720 inmates were Catholic (mostly Poles, and 411 Germans) and 1,034 priests died there. Expropriation of church properties surged from 1941.
The Vatican, surrounded by Fascist Italy, was officially neutral during the war, but used diplomacy to aid victims and lobby for peace. Vatican Radio and other media spoke out against atrocities. While Nazi antisemitism embraced modern pseudo-scientific racial principles, ancient antipathies between Christianity and Judaism contributed to European antisemitism. During the Nazi era, the church rescued many thousands of Jews by issuing false documents, lobbying Axis officials, hiding them in monasteries, convents, schools and elsewhere; including in the Vatican and papal residence at Castel Gandolfo. The Pope's role during this period is contested. The Reich Security Main Office called Pius XII a "mouthpiece" of the Jews. His first encyclical, Summi Pontificatus, called the invasion of Poland an "hour of darkness", his 1942 Christmas address denounced race murders and his Mystici corporis Christi encyclical (1943) denounced the murder of the handicapped."

This should be clear enough even for you.
 
Absolute bunk. Hitler was absolutely NOT a good Catholic. He HATED the Church all his adult life. The Nazis considered it a "Jewish" religion and wanted to return Germany to its pagan beliefs. That wasn't a new idea, either. My God, ever heard of Wagner? Where do you get this crap?

The Pope may have been a coward and unwilling to take on the Germans too strongly given that they occupied Italy and encircled the Vatican, and also that he feared they would destroy the Church and send all Catholics to camps as well, but there is NO EVIDENCE whatsoever that he supported that murderous and racist ideology. In fact, the Church was responsible for saving innumerable Jews in monasteries and convents, and priests and nuns, with the tacit approval of their superiors, were involved in resistance work in France and Italy at least, if not in Germany.

Equally asinine is any suggestion that the Nazis were not clear in their agenda from the beginning. Outright, open racists were among his earliest and most fervent followers. They also bankrolled him, along with industrialists and ex-army people. Have you never read Mein Kampf, for Christ's sake? It's insane anti-Semitism from beginning to end and it was written in 1924!

The ideology is even older than that:

"February 24, 1920
Nazis outline political agenda

The first public meeting of the Nazi party, then called the German Workers’ Party, takes place in Munich, Germany. Adolf Hitler issues a "25 Point Program" outlining the party's political agenda. The party platform embodies racism. It demands racial purity in Germany; proclaims Germany's destiny to rule over inferior races; and identifies Jews as racial enemies. Point 4 concludes that "No Jew, therefore, may be a member of the Nation."


https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nazi-racism

How much clearer could it be? Hitler's earliest mentor and bankroller of the Nazi party was a notorious anti-Semite, Dietrich Eckhart. Hitler was already part of anti-semitic circles when he was penniless in Vienna. It's not that it would have been hard to find them. Anti-semitism was an important part of the cultural zeitgeist in Austria and Germany since the late 1800's.

Instead of reading modern racist tracts, pick up a copy of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich". It's still one of the best resources for the era, and it is particularly good in describing the milieu out of which Nazism arose.

Dietrich Eckhart: He was writing anti-semitic plays in 1912.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Eckart

Alfred Rosenberg: Executed after his trial at Nuremberg. Good riddance to an evil S.O.B.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Rosenberg

Inform yourself before you open your mouth; we don't need any more uneducated musings. Or perhaps it's just part of your agenda to spread deliberate lies. Continue it and there will be consequences.

"Around a third of Germans were Catholic in the 1930s. The Church in Germany had spoken against the rise of Nazism, but the Catholic aligned Centre Party capitulated in 1933 and was banned. In the various 1933 elections the percentage of Catholics voting for the Nazis party was remarkably lower than the average . Nazi key ideologic Alfred Rosenberg was banned on the index of the Inquisition , presided by later pope Pius XII. Adolf Hitler and several key Nazis had been raised Catholic, but became hostile to the Church in adulthood. While Article 24 of the NSDAP party platform called for conditional toleration of Christian denominations and the 1933 Reichskonkordat treaty with the Vatican purported to guarantee religious freedom for Catholics, the Nazis were essentially hostile to Christianity and the Catholic Church faced persecution in Nazi Germany. Its press, schools and youth organisations were closed, much property confiscated and around one third of its clergy faced reprisals from authorities. Catholic lay leaders were targeted in the Night of the Long Knives purge. The Church hierarchy attempted to co-operate with the new government, but in 1937, the Papal Encyclical Mit brennender Sorge accused the government of "fundamental hostility" to the church.Among the most courageous demonstrations of opposition inside Germany were the 1941 sermons of Bishop August von Galen of Münster. Nevertheless, wrote Alan Bullock "[n]either the Catholic Church nor the Evangelical Church... as institutions, felt it possible to take up an attitude of open opposition to the regime".[1] In every country under German occupation, priests played a major part in rescuing Jews, but Catholic resistance to mistreatment of Jews in Germany was generally limited to fragmented and largely individual efforts. Mary Fulbrook wrote that when politics encroached on the church, Catholics were prepared to resist, but that the record was otherwise patchy and uneven, and that, with notable exceptions, "it seems that, for many Germans, adherence to the Christian faith proved compatible with at least passive acquiescence in, if not active support for, the Nazi dictatorship".[2]
Catholics fought on both sides in the Second World War. Hitler's invasion of predominantly Catholic Poland ignited the conflict in 1939. Here, especially in the areas of Poland annexed to the Reich—as in other annexed regions of Slovenia and Austria—Nazi persecution of the church was intense. Many clergy were targeted for extermination. Through his links to the German Resistance, Pope Pius XII warned the Allies of the planned Nazi invasion of the Low Countries in 1940. From that year, the Nazis gathered priest-dissidents in a dedicated clergy barracks at Dachau, where 95 percent of its 2,720 inmates were Catholic (mostly Poles, and 411 Germans) and 1,034 priests died there. Expropriation of church properties surged from 1941.
The Vatican, surrounded by Fascist Italy, was officially neutral during the war, but used diplomacy to aid victims and lobby for peace. Vatican Radio and other media spoke out against atrocities. While Nazi antisemitism embraced modern pseudo-scientific racial principles, ancient antipathies between Christianity and Judaism contributed to European antisemitism. During the Nazi era, the church rescued many thousands of Jews by issuing false documents, lobbying Axis officials, hiding them in monasteries, convents, schools and elsewhere; including in the Vatican and papal residence at Castel Gandolfo. The Pope's role during this period is contested. The Reich Security Main Office called Pius XII a "mouthpiece" of the Jews. His first encyclical, Summi Pontificatus, called the invasion of Poland an "hour of darkness", his 1942 Christmas address denounced race murders and his Mystici corporis Christi encyclical (1943) denounced the murder of the handicapped."

This should be clear enough even for you.

Thanks so much for this post. This ludicrous criticism based on sensationalist bestsellers and TV shows is such a beaten path and so unsubstantiated that I got tired of arguing about it. It seems these people never read much about the Nazi ideology, with its decidedly "non-Catholic/Papist" plans of creating a separate "Nazi Christian church" and especially their neo-pagan leanings.
 
Of course, but Hitler was a good Catholic, as was the Pope/Church who went along with his agenda as his intentions became clear. Hitler and the formation of the Nazis were not clear with their agenda when they were elected. The party rose to power because it was revolutionary and nationalistic, which would have certainly run a chord with a religious minority of ethnic Germans. That was not inherently evil, as initially, nobody was suggesting death of Jews, Slavs, Roma, political opponents..etc

Oh they definitely did talk about the annihilation of political opponents, at least (communists). Even before they rose to power Nazi groups had violent conflicts with them. They also had an ideology of social engineering and darwinism that from the very beginning implied that certain races and disabled people should somehow "not procreate" and "not mix" in their society (of course that initially didn't mean necessarily genocide). Hitler was not a "good Catholic". He barely cared about Catholicism at all, had like many other Nazis a certain fascination with German paganism (a not very "good Catholic" thing), and only participated in rituals and ceremonies for political purposes, as he also did in Protestant ones.
 
Thanks so much for this post. This ludicrous criticism based on sensationalist bestsellers and TV shows is such a beaten path and so unsubstantiated that I got tired of arguing about it. It seems these people never read much about the Nazi ideology, with its decidedly "non-Catholic/Papist" plans of creating a separate "Nazi Christian church" and especially their neo-pagan leanings.

I didn't even know there are documentaries spouting these absolute falsehoods, but I'm not at all surprised.

The reason for much of this is that the general public is appallingly ignorant of actual history. The schools, even if some of these people attended them, have done a terrible job of teaching even relatively recent history. It's even worse for ancient history. I'm waiting for someone to come on here defending books by that disgrace Dan Brown or those "New Age" idiot Wicca witch people.

Honestly, how does the world continue to function with so many stupid, uninformed people running around.

That's not really an excuse for making such incendiary comments without having made even a rudimentary effort to educate oneself about the era and the ideology.

There are innumerable books and tracts on the subject by REPUTABLE historians. Instead of wasting time on video games and social media, a lot of these people should pick up a BOOK once in a while, written by or after interviews with the actual people who were involved.

I've read dozens of books on this subject and I still think that "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" is excellent. A new version came out a few years ago, and I highly recommend it.

(My daughter came home from work early, took one look at my face, and said, "Calm down, mom, it's not good for your blood pressure! :))
 
I didn't even know there are documentaries spouting these absolute falsehoods, but I'm not at all surprised.

The reason for much of this is that the general public is appallingly ignorant of actual history. The schools, even if some of these people attended them, have done a terrible job of teaching even relatively recent history. It's even worse for ancient history. I'm waiting for someone to come on here defending books by that disgrace Dan Brown or those "New Age" idiot Wicca witch people.

Honestly, how does the world continue to function with so many stupid, uninformed people running around.

That's not really an excuse for making such incendiary comments without having made even a rudimentary effort to educate oneself about the era and the ideology.

There are innumerable books and tracts on the subject by REPUTABLE historians. Instead of wasting time on video games and social media, a lot of these people should pick up a BOOK once in a while, written by or after interviews with the actual people who were involved.

I've read dozens of books on this subject and I still think that "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" is excellent. A new version came out a few years ago, and I highly recommend it.

(My daughter came home from work early, took one look at my face, and said, "Calm down, mom, it's not good for your blood pressure! :))

unfortunately, a mediocre video game sells better than a good book nowadays
and there are so many other brainless distractions, not to mention social media
books are out
 
you might as well say the KKK is on the rise in the USA
This is completely different. In the U.S., healing came from within. Change came from within. Germans had never turned around to take down the Nazis. This decision was made for them. The laws changed. It doesn't mean that people changed their minds. It means people were suddenly no longer allowed to say what they think about certain matters. And we are not talking about a rise. My argument is that people never changed other than change that was forced.

Non-Germans tend to not see or hear this as laws prevent the vast majority of right-wing sentiments from surfacing. That doesn't mean they don't exist. And it doesn't mean that I need to be surprised when something I always knew to be hiding beneath finally erupts.

Don't dismiss what he has been saying for years:



It beats waiting for the next surprise.
 

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