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    I strongly disagree with this chart. Even if as usual, you consider me a coward for mentioning that you have infracted me for disagreeing with you to Maciamo (see private DMs). In the Eastern European nations, I see strong differences between quality of life based on money earned (or money that you have) and the assumptions as in your chart. I can name a country next to Bulgaria where you are not likely to be that happy no matter what you have as you are constantly being hassled if people know you are not from there. In Bulgaria however, you are who you are and people are welcoming. These charts are based on generalizations. And they are highly inaccurate, Angela. Once again, it seems you want to set a pace based on what you have read. I get that people here are now afraid of opposing you as an immediate infraction will come. But before you post any "truth" about any country, I suggest that you actually bother visiting them first. Maybe then, you will be able to be objective enough to allow the readers of this wonderful forum to be able to get information that is actually valuable so they can decide to visit amazing countries regardless of what you think they are supposed to experience.
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    The Euro-how far would it go?

    This would apply most to retired people or people otherwise living on investment income, because the real barometer for people within a country would be a correlation between this and salaries.

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    Relative income areas in U.S. Just as I thought. California is turning into a majority very poor state with a small wealthy elite. Their policies will only make the disparity greater over time

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    This thread is for posting interesting maps and graphs created by academics, NOT BY ME. It is meant for discussion, discussion which mostly doesn't happen, unfortunately, as I would like to explore and perhaps critique the studies upon which the visuals are based. In no way do I claim that any of these maps are ABSOLUTELY true, particularly when it is a matter of the social sciences, given how often I point out the replication crisis in the social sciences.

    My only comment was my inference that the sense of well-being of people in Latin America can't be based on having a good economy. Once again you exhibit your inability to understand many posts here as well as the academic papers. That's why I ignore you. There's nothing to learn.

    In terms of the study you clearly didn't understand that it is based not on some academic's opinion, but on THE RESPONSES OF PEOPLE IN THOSE COUNTRIES! Only idiots would think there's only one factor, i.e. economics, to be considered. If you want to comb the study to find out the sources, the methodology, the specific questions, and through that show that the results are incorrect, by all means go ahead. I'd be very interested in reading it. I'm completely uninterested in your personal, source-less opinion, especially given you didn't even understand the source of the visual.

    Furthermore, I am done allowing you to question my authority as a moderator. Another t-roll like you went crying to Maciamo just this last week. Maciamo told me he trusts my judgment. If you don't like that, you misogynist, it's just too bad.

    Attack me one more time and I will give you an infraction for that as well as for this post, and it is not because you disagree with me (rather, with the paper); it is because you are questioning my authority as a moderator and lying about me once again. If I gave infractions for posting absolute nonsense with no scientific basis most of the people posting on the Balkan threads would be long gone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    This thread is for posting interesting maps and graphs created by academics, NOT BY ME. It is meant for discussion, discussion which mostly doesn't happen, unfortunately, as I would like to explore and perhaps critique the studies upon which the visuals are based. In no way do I claim that any of these maps are ABSOLUTELY true, particularly when it is a matter of the social sciences, given how often I point out the replication crisis in the social sciences.

    My only comment was my inference that the sense of well-being of people in Latin America can't be based on having a good economy. Once again you exhibit your inability to understand many posts here as well as the academic papers. That's why I ignore you. There's nothing to learn.

    In terms of the study you clearly didn't understand that it is based not on some academic's opinion, but on THE RESPONSES OF PEOPLE IN THOSE COUNTRIES! Only idiots would think there's only one factor, i.e. economics, to be considered. If you want to comb the study to find out the sources, the methodology, the specific questions, and through that show that the results are incorrect, by all means go ahead. I'd be very interested in reading it. I'm completely uninterested in your personal, source-less opinion, especially given you didn't even understand the source of the visual.

    Furthermore, I am done allowing you to question my authority as a moderator. Another t-roll like you went crying to Maciamo just this last week. Maciamo told me he trusts my judgment. If you don't like that, you misogynist, it's just too bad.

    Attack me one more time and I will give you an infraction for that as well as for this post, and it is not because you disagree with me (rather, with the paper); it is because you are questioning my authority as a moderator and lying about me once again. If I gave infractions for posting absolute nonsense with no scientific basis most of the people posting on the Balkan threads would be long gone.
    By the way, I checked, and you didn't get anywhere with the infraction issued by me. Furthermore, I have in the past given you some thumbs up. I'm sure even you can understand that likely won't be happening in the future.

    So, wrong twice over.

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    Human Development Index based on life expectancy, education level, and GDP. I don't think those are the only important factors, but for what it's worth...


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    If the Transylvanians want to go back to the usual Saxon(perhaps,even Slavic) greediness, it's their choice,but it is very important, in my opinion, to not cross, break,certain barriers, both economically and culturally(unfortunately, not too good news,in this respect).



    And for the third so-called power,Russia, unfortunately the clear differences between how they treat people in Kazakhstan vs Ukraine and the Balkans makes no special case,see the US-Saudi prosperity.



    My possible choices so far,China,Israel,Greece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreptul Valah View Post
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    If the Transylvanians want to go back to the usual Saxon(perhaps,even Slavic) greediness, it's their choice,but it is very important, in my opinion, to not cross, break,certain barriers, both economically and culturally(unfortunately, not too good news,in this respect).



    And for the third so-called power,Russia, unfortunately the clear differences between how they treat people in Kazakhstan vs Ukraine and the Balkans makes no special case,see the US-Saudi prosperity.



    My possible choices so far,China,Israel,Greece.[/QUOTE]

    You'd prefer to live in China??? Have you read the China, China, China thread? If you want to live in Israel, make sure it's not as a Palestinian Israeli.

    Poor Greece. The economic crisis hit them so hard that the schools are half empty: few people are having children. It will take them years to recover. You obviously have no children, or you would not want to bequeath that to them.

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    How to survive on 'Game of Thrones': Switch allegiances




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    Maybe someone will find maps with addresses and postal codes useful https://worldpostalcode.com/united-states/delaware/. It covers all the globe and gives this useful information. After all, if you need something to deliver, for instance, this information will be necessary.

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    Not in map form, but very interesting nonetheless.

    Life is worse today than 50 years ago:

    Italy: 50%Brazil: 49%France: 46%US: 41%South Africa: 36%Australia: 33%UK: 31%Russia: 28%Canada: 24%Germany: 20%India: 17%South Korea: 17%Japan: 15%Vietnam: 4%

    It's from Pew Research.

    Some are understandable just from an economic standpoint. Some are not. Do U.S. testees not remember the social unrest of the late 60s?

    How free would the Vietnamese be to answer these kinds of questions?

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    Lowest temperature records in Europe:
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    Irish genetic clusters

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    Spanish autosomal structure.

    The drift because of political boundaries seems to have an effect.



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    Another interesting one: signal of North Moroccan ancestry:

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    "Estimated global migration flows by region from 2010 to 2015. Numbers indicate millions of people. Credit: Azose and Raftery, PNAS, 2018"


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    Mean number of children by race and political ideology among Americans.


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    Male androgenic body hair map...The more SSA, the more East Asian, the most Amerindian, the less body hair? Why do Swedes and Norwegians have more than Slavs? A bit more "Siberian"?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Male androgenic body hair map...The more SSA, the more East Asian, the most Amerindian, the less body hair? Why do Swedes and Norwegians have more than Slavs? A bit more "Siberian"?
    True, I don't really need to shave much. Then again, this map is only for male?



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    Percentages of support for an EU Army. Interesting.





    Even in Scandinavian social welfare states, fertility rates continue to fall. They're in Italian territory now.

    Percentage of credit card debt by country.. No surprises. Contrary to stereotype, Italians are very conservative about money. Great savers too.

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    Percentage of credit card debt by country.. No surprises, contrary to stereotype, nobody is more conservative than Italians about money. Great savers too.

    Indeed, and in the North Eastern, US, I feel this is common knowledge. Italians are frugal, own lots of property, and businesses. Moreover, they live in some of the best neighborhoods in the entire country. They've done far better for themselves, than the majority of other immigrant groups in the USA imo. My friend who is a banker (also Italian), says it is mostly Italian-Americans, and Irish-Americans who are his colleagues.

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    Indeed, and in the North Eastern, US, I feel this is common knowledge. Italians are frugal, own lots of property, and businesses. Moreover, they live in some of the best neighborhoods in the entire country. They've done far better for themselves, than the majority of other immigrant groups in the USA imo. My friend who is a banker (also Italian), says it is mostly Italian-Americans, and Irish-Americans who are his colleagues.
    I was thinking about the fact that Italians are known to spend a lot on food, to be generous hosts, to like to go out and have a good time, to dress well etc. In Europe there's a perception that Italians are a bit spendthrift. One of my Croatian friends would tell stories of the differing patterns of spending money on vacation of Italians versus Germans on her Adriatic island. She said the Germans would apportion out the money at the beginning: so much for each day, for food, for entertainment etc., and also would do a lot of cooking in their lodgings etc. and stay longer. The Italians would go out more, take advantage of all the sites, entertain each other, and when the money was gone, go home.

    The operative fact for this discussion is that when the money they had allotted for the vacation was gone they went home; they didn't use a credit card to stay longer.

    It's just that most Italians would never be cheap with a guest, or a family member, or on food for their families. The economies take place elsewhere. Yes, they want to dress well, so they buy a few good pieces, and know how to accessorize. That's of course a generality, and a generality more true the further south you go in Italy. I regret to say that some of my father's Emilian relatives were pretty tight fisted even with family and guests, and Ligurians are perhaps even more stereotypically cheap than Emilians. My father's relatives were thrilled when he married my mother with her Ligurian frugality about money, because my father, contrary to most of his family, was indeed born with "holes in his hands" as the saying goes.

    They also don't gamble with their money, by and large, investing in "safe" things like real property, apartment buildings being a popular one, or bonds, or safe blue chip stocks. This ties in with other studies showing they're very risk averse, and distrustful of what the future might bring. Part of that is genetic, I think, and part of it their history.

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    Suicide rates by country. I don't get some of this. Why do people in South Korea have such high rates, even higher than Japan? The Italian percentage is really low, yet all they do is complain about their country, their lives etc. (Not that they don't have some reasons to complain.) Countries like Norway and Germany, where many more people claim to be happy have higher rates. In those countries are you just expected to say you're happy and everything is fine even when it's not? Do Italians just like to complain, or is complaining cathartic? It sure doesn't correlate with wealth.

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    Percentage of people by country who think most people are trustworthy.

    Within Italy I'm pretty sure there's a cline.

    Personally I think the people in some countries are incredibly naive.

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    I remember back in college, when we were learning about Machiavelli, who considered most people untrustworthy. I said to myself, "Wow, my father tells me the same thing!".

    I agree, people need to earn trust.

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