Johane Derite
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I'm opening this thread to discuss the ethics of the disproportionate power that individuals like Lazaridis and Reich, etc, currently hold. They are great scientists, I am not trying to smear them, but they are humans with biases like everyone else.
There needs to be some sort of committee that oversees and monitors ethnic labelling of results by scientists with possible bias one way or the other. This can have nationalist/expansionist (genocidal Golden Dawn for example) consequences.
I just saw this exchange on twitter where he uses reference to a famous Arvanite woman as a point of reference for the behavior or cultural practice of Greek women. I don't doubt that its likely that the cultural phenomena would also have been found in Greek culture, but a Greek example must be used to claim that, not an Arvanite example, otherwise there is no argument.
If an American scientist used X native american cultural phenomenon to say that Anglo-Americans did do X cultural phenomana , it would be self-evident that it doesn't apply without providing a clear example of them also doing it. Otherwise the argument is just that they are the same and if one does it so does the other.
The argument that Greek nationalists usually use is that Arvanites fought for Greek independence so they are Greeks/Hellenes.
But this is the world of Genetics, and this cannot be an argument for trying to figure out the truth of humanity's past.
There were many native americans that fought alongside anglos also, but we wouldn't erase their native american-ness when doing genetic research. It would be scandalous and totally unscientific to just list dna results of native americans that fought alongside the Anglos as North West European. What would that achieve other than to obfuscate the past?
Why is it permissible for Arvanites that we do this?
If this guy is labelling Arvanite cultural phenomena as Greek, is he also labelling Arvanite dna results as Greek?
How would we even know if he were to do such a thing?
This is the thread: https://twitter.com/AlbHistory/status/1047208386914406400
This is a new field, and these types of scenarios don't just apply here but everywhere on earth where genetic research will be undertaken. There needs to be awareness that this sort of genetic vampirism can take place even by scientists simply being misinformed by state propaganda.
There needs to be some sort of committee that oversees and monitors ethnic labelling of results by scientists with possible bias one way or the other. This can have nationalist/expansionist (genocidal Golden Dawn for example) consequences.
I just saw this exchange on twitter where he uses reference to a famous Arvanite woman as a point of reference for the behavior or cultural practice of Greek women. I don't doubt that its likely that the cultural phenomena would also have been found in Greek culture, but a Greek example must be used to claim that, not an Arvanite example, otherwise there is no argument.
If an American scientist used X native american cultural phenomenon to say that Anglo-Americans did do X cultural phenomana , it would be self-evident that it doesn't apply without providing a clear example of them also doing it. Otherwise the argument is just that they are the same and if one does it so does the other.
The argument that Greek nationalists usually use is that Arvanites fought for Greek independence so they are Greeks/Hellenes.
But this is the world of Genetics, and this cannot be an argument for trying to figure out the truth of humanity's past.
There were many native americans that fought alongside anglos also, but we wouldn't erase their native american-ness when doing genetic research. It would be scandalous and totally unscientific to just list dna results of native americans that fought alongside the Anglos as North West European. What would that achieve other than to obfuscate the past?
Why is it permissible for Arvanites that we do this?
If this guy is labelling Arvanite cultural phenomena as Greek, is he also labelling Arvanite dna results as Greek?
How would we even know if he were to do such a thing?
This is the thread: https://twitter.com/AlbHistory/status/1047208386914406400
This is a new field, and these types of scenarios don't just apply here but everywhere on earth where genetic research will be undertaken. There needs to be awareness that this sort of genetic vampirism can take place even by scientists simply being misinformed by state propaganda.