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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Absolutely right. Even the town of 80,000 or so where we settled in America is now a ghost town of boarded up windows which is filling up with people on welfare moving in from New York because the rents are low.

    What China and the big box stores didn't accomplish Amazon will...
    It was Walmart first. It is the greed of the large corporations that put profit above country.

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    In the EU, Chinese companies are investing in infrastructure in order to move their products from the ports to the interior. It has raised concerns in the industrial north of the continent. That's what happens when you think of the Southern European countries only as markets and you let them in the EU only because you want duty-free access to their markets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    In the EU, Chinese companies are investing in infrastructure in order to move their products from the ports to the interior. It has raised concerns in the industrial north of the continent. That's what happens when you think of the Southern European countries only as markets and you let them in the EU only because you want duty-free access to their markets.
    I could not agree more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    It was Walmart first. It is the greed of the large corporations that put profit above country.
    Let's be honest. We all put our own profit first. The last time you sold a car or your house, or some more minor item online, did you look up the market rate to see the maximum you could get for the item? Of course you did! Don't expect more from companies than you would do yourself.

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    An outbreak of a new coronavirus that began in the Chinese city of Wuhan has already
    infected over 4,000 people – mostly in China, but also in several other countries, from Thailand to France to the United States – and killed more than 100. Given China’s history of disease outbreaks – including of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) and African swine fever – and officials’ apparent awareness of the need to strengthen their capacity to address “major risks,” how could this happen?

    It should be no surprise that history is repeating itself in China. To maintain its authority, the Communist Party of China must keep the public convinced that everything is going according to plan. That means carrying out systemic cover-ups of scandals and deficiencies that may reflect poorly upon the CPC’s leadership, instead of doing what is necessary to respond.
    This pathological secrecy hobbles the authorities’ capacity to respond quickly to epidemics. The SARS epidemic of 2002-03 could have been contained much sooner had Chinese officials, including the health minister, not deliberately concealed information from the public. Once proper disease-control and prevention measures were implemented, SARS was contained within months.
    Yet China seems not to have learned its lesson. Although there are important differences between today’s coronavirus epidemic and the SARS outbreak – including far greater technological capacity to monitor disease – they may have the CPS’s habit of cover-ups in common.
    To be sure, at first glance, China’s government has appeared to be more forthcoming about the latest outbreak. But, although the first case was reported on December 8, the Wuhan municipal health commission didn’t issue an official notice until several weeks later. And, since then, Wuhan officials have downplayed the seriousness of the disease and deliberately sought to suppress news coverage.
    That notice maintained that there was no evidence that the new illness could be transmitted among humans, and claimed that no health-care workers had been infected. The commission repeated these claims on January 5, though 59 cases had been confirmed by then. Even after the first death was reported on January 11, the commission continued to insist that there was no evidence that it could be transmitted among humans or that health-care workers had been affected.


    Throughout this critical period, there was little news coverage of the outbreak. Chinese censors worked diligently to remove references to the outbreak from the public sphere, which is far easier today than it was during the SARS epidemic, thanks to the government’s dramatically tighter control over the Internet, media, and civil society. Police have harassed people for “spreading rumors” about the disease.
    According to one study, references to the outbreak on WeChat – a popular Chinese messaging, social media, and mobile-payment app – spiked between December 30 and January 4, around the time when the Wuhan municipal health commission first acknowledged the outbreak. But mentions of the disease subsequently plummeted.
    References to the new coronavirus rose slightly on January 11, when the first death was reported, but then quickly disappeared again. It was only after January 20 – following reports of 136 new cases in Wuhan, as well as cases in Beijing and Guangdong – that the government rolled back its censorship efforts. Mentions of coronavirus exploded.
    Yet again, the Chinese government’s attempts to protect its image proved costly, because they undermined initial containment efforts. The authorities have since switched gears, and their strategy now appears to be to show how seriously the government is taking the disease by imposing drastic measures: a blanket travel ban on Wuhan and neighboring cities in Hubei province, which together have a population of 35 million.
    At this point, it is unclear whether and to what extent these steps are necessary or effective. What is clear is that China’s initial mishandling of the coronavirus outbreak means that thousands will be infected, hundreds may die, and the economy, already weakened by debt and the trade war, will take another hit.
    But perhaps the most tragic part of this story is that there is little reason to hope that next time will be different. The survival of the one-party state depends on secrecy, media suppression, and constraints on civil liberties. So, even as Chinese President Xi Jinping demands that the government increase its capacity to handle “major risks,” China will continue to undermine its own – and the world’s – safety, in order to bolster the CPC’s authority.
    When China’s leaders finally declare victory against the current outbreak, they will undoubtedly credit the CPC’s leadership. But the truth is just the opposite: the party is again responsible for this calamity.


    However, another article today

    Since he was elected US president, Donald Trump has done almost everything standard economic wisdom regards as heresy. He has erected trade barriers and stoked uncertainty with threats of further tariffs. He has blackmailed private businesses. He has eased prudential standards for banks. He has time and again attacked the Federal Reserve for policy not to his liking. He increased the budget deficit even as the economy was nearing full capacity. On a policymaker’s Don’t Do list, Trump ticks many more boxes than any other post-war US president.
    so, what is a difference?

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    also what about that nice deal that the U.S just made with israel and palestine? palestine wasn't even there when it was made lol. all the regions with with israeli settlements go to israel. here from trumps twitter. i had to laugh when i saw this. the sad part is, that right now it doesn't look much better.

    "This is what a future state of Palestine can look like, witha capital in parts of east Jerusalem."

    judging the chinese governement but ignoring that some people also here in the west would like to adopt similar practices, but they don't want to admit it.
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