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    China, China, China!

    Every time I turn around I see more and more disturbing news from China.

    I started this thread a while ago.
    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...highlight=1984


    Now there's this:
    China’s brightest children are being recruited to develop AI ‘killer bots’





    • Beijing Institute of Technology recruits 31 ‘patriotic’ youngsters for new AI weapons development programme
    • Expert in international science policy describes course as ‘extremely powerful and troubling’

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/scie...elop-ai-killer








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    The Chinese don't innovate, and this isn't anything racialist as Japan does. Even today, they mostly copy US and Japanese tech - I can't think of any industry-leading Chinese companies, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToBeOrNotToBe View Post
    The Chinese don't innovate, and this isn't anything racialist as Japan does. Even today, they mostly copy US and Japanese tech - I can't think of any industry-leading Chinese companies, for example.
    they don't have the cheapest labour any more
    and - unlike the Japanese - they will innovate

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    I don't know why everybody is obsessed with Putin and Russia; China is way more dangerous!

    And the Chinese will dominate various branches of technology and industry soon enough; they educate incredible numbers of engineers; they send their kids to the best schools in the West; and in the meantime, westerners are wasting their time on nonsense like genderstudies...

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    the Big Brother in China is worriesome indeed
    but as long as they don't try to export this concept, I don't feel threatened

    some try to abuse the fear for China
    Belgian politicians did so when China tried to invest in the Belgian electrity grid
    they said China would spy and get to much know-how from the Belgian electrity grid management
    and the press didn't have any critics on that, they played along with the politicians
    I can't imagine what special know-how Belgium has in electricity distribution that the Chinese can't figure out for themselves
    the real reason is, the Belgian electrity grid has a monopoly, protected by Belgian law
    and the management is full of political mandates who get very well paid for their zero expertise

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    I bet in the future, when they look back on this time period, they will consider it to be similar to another Cold War. China is indeed the USA's greatest rival, that is creating another bi-polar world. The more and more, we relinquish our uni-polarity as the most powerful state; the sooner we will create a bi-polar/multi-polar world, that ultimately results in world war. The "American Century" of the 1900s has facilitated relatively more peace than previous times. That era is coming to an end.

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    China, China, China!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    I bet in the future, when they look back on this time period, they will consider it to be similar to another Cold War. China is indeed the USA's greatest rival, that is creating another bi-polar world. The more and more, we relinquish our uni-polarity as the most powerful state; the sooner we will create a bi-polar/multi-polar world, that ultimately results in world war. The "American Century" of the 1900s has facilitated relatively more peace than previous times. That era is coming to an end.
    I’m still processing the statement of President Macron of France listing the “Enemies”, and calling for the creation of a European Army to defend against China, Russia, and the USA.
    The EU Army concept is not new, but the new “enemy” is.
    It seems You could be right, That era is coming to an end.

    Macron:
    ... “We have to protect ourselves with respect to China, Russia and even the United States of America,”

    Mr Macron told France’s Europe 1 radio in an interview ....

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8619721.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    I’m still processing the statement of President Macron of France listing the “Enemies”, and calling for the creation of a European Army to defend against China, Russia, and the USA.
    The EU Army concept is not new, but the new “enemy” is.
    It seems You could be right, That era is coming to an end.
    Macron:
    ... “We have to protect ourselves with respect to China, Russia and even the United States of America,”

    Mr Macron told France’s Europe 1 radio in an interview ....
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8619721.html
    Macron doesn't see the US as a threat to Europe
    he sees Trump as a threat to the political caste to which he belongs

    he's also not happy with the very recent Belgian decission to buy American F-35 fighterplanes instead of the French Dassault Raphale
    he feels France is losing controll over its own weaponry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    I’m still processing the statement of President Macron of France listing the “Enemies”, and calling for the creation of a European Army to defend against China, Russia, and the USA.
    The EU Army concept is not new, but the new “enemy” is.
    It seems You could be right, That era is coming to an end.

    Macron:
    ... “We have to protect ourselves with respect to China, Russia and even the United States of America,”

    Mr Macron told France’s Europe 1 radio in an interview ....

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8619721.html
    Thank your "brilliant" president for alienating all the friends. It is easier for China now to forge aliances and economic connections. America First (Alone)!
    Be wary of people who tend to glorify the past, underestimate the present, and demonize the future.

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    China, China, China!

    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    Thank your "brilliant" president for alienating all the friends. It is easier for China now to forge aliances and economic connections. America First (Alone)!
    Economic Connections with China always end with Loss of Jobs of the other Countries.
    China want to export, but not to import anything that they already produce. They are super protective of their own Market.

    “China First” (Supported by Hypocrites)

    Worth mentioning are the domestic human rights abuse, the lack of civil liberties, corruption, and the Hypocrisy of the “Civilized Nations” doing business with this confused Communist Regime.

    ———
    imo Macron has Stockholm Syndrome (sexually abused as a minor by a 40 years old Woman and then marr....) he needs a lot of help.

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    The West has itself to blame for the Chinese threat, as China's rise has been immensely stimulated by our stupid policy of exporting our industry to that country (politicians call this "free trade").

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    Some very good insights here. I'd only add that China is indeed becoming a threat to its neighbors, and if its industrial might grows, the threat will widen.

    The situation reminds me of that of Japan in the first decades of the 20th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Some very good insights here. I'd only add that China is indeed becoming a threat to its neighbors, and if its industrial might grows, the threat will widen.

    The situation reminds me of that of Japan in the first decades of the 20th century.
    I'm more positive about China. It had wars with neighbors when it was poor. Now it trades more with everybody and even border skirmishes are unheard of. I believe that with rise of wealth china will relax communist party stronghold eventually and will become democratic. I'm surprised they are still in power there. They were unlucky, more liberal first secretary wasn't elected a leader, Gorbachev like.

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    The Chinese are now buying farmland in France. Why shouldn't they, if we are stupid enough to let them do it?

    One glimmer of hope, though : for the first time in years, Chinese growth has dropped below its traditional two-figure levels. Last I heard for 2018 was 6.5%. Far better than any country in the EU, for sure, but still, things may be changing there too.

    I don't think Macron fears any US "invasion" of France. He is worried US military strength might serve as leverage for economic blackmail (something like what is currently going on with the Iranian sanctions, and French firms being deterred from trading there). He is also concerned the EU might some day be abruptly left to fend for itself, with the US withdrawing from the NATO burden. Well, if it happens, the Europeans will have nobody to blame but themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hrvclv View Post
    The Chinese are now buying farmland in France. Why shouldn't they, if we are stupid enough to let them do it?

    One glimmer of hope, though : for the first time in years, Chinese growth has dropped below its traditional two-figure levels. Last I heard for 2018 was 6.5%. Far better than any country in the EU, for sure, but still, things may be changing there too.

    I don't think Macron fears any US "invasion" of France. He is worried US military strength might serve as leverage for economic blackmail (something like what is currently going on with the Iranian sanctions, and French firms being deterred from trading there). He is also concerned the EU might some day be abruptly left to fend for itself, with the US withdrawing from the NATO burden. Well, if it happens, the Europeans will have nobody to blame but themselves.
    Remember in 80s and 90s all the world was afraid of Japanese buying everything in the West? What happened since? Wait a moment, French Renault bought Japanese Nisan and Korean Motors. Japanese and Koreans should be afraid of French people!
    Now, do you know how much Saudis own in France? No? Do you know how much Germans own in France? No?

    And now we are afraid of chinese! Boohoo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hrvclv View Post
    The Chinese are now buying farmland in France. Why shouldn't they, if we are stupid enough to let them do it?
    I don't understand this either. French media seem happy to attack middle-class English folk for buying up France's 'precious' chateaux and raising house prices through the purchase of second homes, as indeed the English media seem happy to make reference to Russian and Saudi 'oil dollars' and 'blood money' buying up swathes of London. Yet there's never a mention of the Chinese government buying energy companies, farmland, housing projects, etc. Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcuin View Post
    I don't understand this either. French media seem happy to attack middle-class English folk for buying up France's 'precious' chateaux and raising house prices through the purchase of second homes, as indeed the English media seem happy to make reference to Russian and Saudi 'oil dollars' and 'blood money' buying up swathes of London. Yet there's never a mention of the Chinese government buying energy companies, farmland, housing projects, etc. Why?
    I am not aware of much complaining round here against British (or, for that matter, Dutch) people buying real estate in France. In fact it keeps prices from plummeting in remote rural areas, which is good news for those who sell.

    As regards Chinese-owned farms, well, they currently distribute their produce locally. But the concern is that they might in future ship their production directly from the farm to China if demand there rises dramatically. Which would pose a risk for European food safety. Chinese reps are already buying significant quantities of timber, which goes straight to China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hrvclv View Post
    I am not aware of much complaining round here against British (or, for that matter, Dutch) people buying real estate in France. In fact it keeps prices from plummeting in remote rural areas, which is good news for those who sell.

    As regards Chinese-owned farms, well, they currently distribute their produce locally. But the concern is that they might in future ship their production directly from the farm to China if demand there rises dramatically. Which would pose a risk for European food safety. Chinese reps are already buying significant quantities of timber, which goes straight to China.
    are the Chinese buying farms in France?

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    It is laudable and courageous that Trump is implementing these tariffs to put an end to the decades-long policy of economic capitulation toward China; but it is too late to make the Chinese threat go away; - the sleeping giant has woken up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groninger View Post
    It is laudable and courageous that Trump is implementing these tariffs to put an end to the decades-long policy of economic capitulation toward China; but it is too late to make the Chinese threat go away; - the sleeping giant has woken up!
    What economic capitulation?!!! USA made hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars in China. It wasn't the easiest market to make money in, and still problems persist, but it benefited both sides handsomely. Apple alone just repatriated 250 billion dollars to US, money it made on the whole world, china included. Should we mention how much money car companies made in china, or fast food, wine, beer, electronics, beef, pork etc, etc? Remember, international trade benefits all parties involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    What economic capitulation?!!! USA made hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars in China. It wasn't the easiest market to make money in, and still problems persist, but it benefited both sides handsomely. Apple alone just repatriated 250 billion dollars to US, money it made on the whole world, china included. Should we mention how much money car companies made in china, or fast food, wine, beer, electronics, beef, pork etc, etc? Remember, international trade benefits all parties involved.
    International trade does not necessarily benefit all parties involved; there are often winners and losers. In this case it's clear that China won and the US lost: the US has been burdened with an enormous trade deficit, and lost millions of manufacturing jobs; China, on the other hand, has built up an industry, acquired modern technologies, and grown from a poor backward country into a world power. The decision of the ruling class of the US to use China as a cheap labor base was shortsighted, selfish and deceitful; they sacrificed the industrial foundation of the country to make some personal financial gains. You could call this an act of treason with some reason. All of this has had a destabilizing impact on the US. You can't export people's jobs without creating enormous resentment. This crowd of people who have been made useless are looking for revenge. The fashionable politicians and CEOs who are benefiting from the globalist trade system tell these people they should worry about climate change and transgender bathrooms instead. It's not going to end well, I fear...

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    Chinese companies lack the spirit of innovation and often copy the results of companies in developed countries such as the United States. In addition, there is no freedom of speech in China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edulofter View Post
    Chinese companies lack the spirit of innovation and often copy the results of companies in developed countries such as the United States. In addition, there is no freedom of speech in China.
    Companies aren't where real innovation takes place. Particle research, space reconnaissance, nuclear power, alternative energies etc. is where the Chinese are surging ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groninger View Post
    International trade does not necessarily benefit all parties involved; there are often winners and losers.
    It is a false statement. It benefits both sides. Thanks to increased trade and move of capital, in both countries prices of goods are lower and natural resources and food more available, which benefits every person in both countries. However, it is true that not everyone benefited equally. Some people lost their jobs, and had to re educate or were displaced in search for work. Some businesses coulnd't compete and went under. Having said that, even these unfortunate people benefited with lower prices for goods.
    Remember these things:
    Trade between countries makes competition more intense, and it always benefits all people. More competition is always good.
    Both countries GDP grew nicely for last 30 years with minimum unemployment. Except few years after 2008 crisis, though it wasn't caused by trade with China, but self inflicted wounds by US.
    Every time in history when countries tried insulationist trading policies and tariffs on imports it badly beckfield for them. Best example is 1929 Great Depression and effect of tariffs which deepened and prolonged it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    It is a false statement. It benefits both sides. Thanks to increased trade and move of capital, in both countries prices of goods are lower and natural resources and food more available, which benefits every person in both countries. However, it is true that not everyone benefited equally. Some people lost their jobs, and had to re educate or were displaced in search for work. Some businesses coulnd't compete and went under. Having said that, even these unfortunate people benefited with lower prices for goods.
    Remember these things:
    Trade between countries makes competition more intense, and it always benefits all people. More competition is always good.
    Both countries GDP grew nicely for last 30 years with minimum unemployment. Except few years after 2008 crisis, though it wasn't caused by trade with China, but self inflicted wounds by US.
    Every time in history when countries tried insulationist trading policies and tariffs on imports it badly beckfield for them. Best example is 1929 Great Depression and effect of tariffs which deepened and prolonged it.
    Unless you’re from Detroit, Michigan!

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