Bronze Age Northwest Africans have Western European ancestry so that'd address any occasional exceptions. And Egyptians drew Asiatics like these in the top left and full bottom:
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If the Shroud of Turin is real,
Jesus has Druze mtDNA!
If I had to bet I would say that there was probably some variation in the Judeans of the first century AD, as there is in most West Eurasian groups. The likelihood that there would have been a presence of blonde, blue-eyed people is, imo, extremely low.
The phenotype of Ashkenazim like Jerry Seinfeld is largely irrelevant, as they are anywhere from 40-60% European. I would think that 10-15% Polish and maybe an equal amount of Rhineland ancestry alone might be enough to change them up a bit. Plus, I don't think Europeans, not living amongst a lot of Jews, are aware of the fact that even among Ashkenazi Jews there's a lot of variation. Some look more like Rahm Emanuel than Jerry Seinfeld.
The phenotype of Syrian Jews is also largely irrelevant, as they have a great deal of Sephardic, i.e. European Jewish ancestry. Plus, Rabbis largely have been sequestered indoors studying the Torah and the Mishnah since early childhood, so they may not be the best example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Jews
The only West Eurasian Jews who would have no European ancestry would be the Iraqi and Iranian Jews, although it could be said they've intermarried with their own set of locals.
One of the most recent studies:
https://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1006644
As for Asad, even among his very reproductively isolated minority, where recessive genes can float up, he's hardly "typical".
Also, I think the entire discussion has gotten rather sidetracked. The "reconstructions" show the men as they most probably "were" i.e. with the weathered skin of men who have lived their lives outdoors under the Middle Eastern sun. The people of the Levant are not "black" skinned. They don't even have the complexion of people from North Africa, many of whom have up to 20% SSA in them. I think olive to light brown skinned probably covers the range. The features are also rather distinctive in most cases.
What possible reason would there be to insist that all first century Judeans looked like Asad rather than like most modern inhabitants of the Levant, other than a discomfort with picturing Jesus as "other"?
I do understand the impulse. Most people have a tendency to make important figures, especially religious figures, resemble them. That's why the Virgin of Guadalupe is Amerindian, and the Buddha looks East Asian. Here, however, we're supposed to be looking at facts, and specifically at genetics.
Of course, the only way to really know is to get ancient dna from first century Judeans, or people from the time of the Maccabees, for example, and look at the snps. All the speculation in the world is no substitute.
The controversy over the Shroud of Turin will not end until modern scientists can find a way to duplicate the process.
The new astonishing phenomenon detected on the Shroud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6iQGomNqTw
BTW. We know that Leonardo da Vinci was a genius.
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As always, nobody refuses to acknowledge my point about Ashkenazi red hair. I've been saying it on-and-off for ages.
It CANNOT be explained by admixture with Europeans. Therefore, it is of a West Asian source. The semi-fictional King David did not get his red hair from admixture with Italians, Eastern Europeans, Germans or Greeks.
I’m sorry you’re frustrated.
It’s understandable.
imo Names of Religious groups shouldn’t be included on any DNA results. Or at least not yet.
They should stick only with the location. (for now)
Some Companies and free Calculators, often fail miserably to differentiate between Ashkenazi vs East and South Europeans.
Radio carbon dating is more reliable in my opinion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating_of_the_Shroud_of_Turin
....... and with Jews it isn't just religious - it's ethnic too. ........ yet if I send my spit off to 23andme, they can tell me I'm fully Ashkenazi. That sort of precision is pretty amazing the more I think about it - not just for Ashkenazim, of course.
..... imo Names of Religious groups shouldn’t be included on any DNA results. Or at least not yet.
They should stick only with the location. (for now)....
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