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    Gheorghe Zamfir with "Păstorul singuratic". "The lonely pastor" in english.
    http://www.virtualromania.org/music/...singuratic.ogg

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    Quote Originally Posted by gidai View Post
    Is this from Macedonia or Grecia?

    I understand almost all the words. Anyway over 80% for sure! To me it sounds just like a little... changed Romanian.
    I am curious, how many percent of the words of this song are understood by the speakers of other Balkan languages?
    That's a Vlach song. There's a Greek translation of the words on the screen. The tune itself and the dance is very similar to tunes and dances from Western Macedonia (the Greek province) or from Epirus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gidai View Post
    I did not understand too much about, trying to translate with Google, but I feel a lot of pain in this song.

    I want to say that Romania did not die, but it reborn.
    It is a folk song of the Pontic Greeks from Trabzon. It is a song about the fall of the Byzantine Empire by the Ottoman Turks. Romania in this context is not necessarily just the area of Romania but the whole of Eastern Orthodoxy/Byzantium.

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    Here's a few folks songs from Greek Thrace:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr_lk23LfZs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLagjTWnTbA

    There are a few classics from that area but every little town had its own songs. Then you have the songs of Eastern Romylia (Northern Thrace, Bulgaria) which are different.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrN0Jt2jH2A
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQRQPfXHVq0

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    Colinde de Crăciun (Romanian Christmas carols)

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    "Ciobănelul"
    Romanian traditional shepherd folk song from Moldova

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    Janines çi pane syte
    17 Dec.
    Paget to the Council.
    Now the Council's letters seem to imply (words quoted) that the King will keep no strangers save the Albanoys.
    Cales, 17 Dec. 1545. Signed.
    O me zhabat në moçale, o me zhgabat lart në male!
    -Petro Nini Luarasi-

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    Capra means Goat, is the name of a traditional Romanian dance, performed around New Year.
    It's executed by a young man with a goat mask and a sheep skin on his back. The 'goat' and his companions go from house to house, dancing at each door on New Year's Eve.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxCT5oOBfSc
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    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post

    Janines çi pane syte
    Beautiful. Its a shame these aren't subtitled in english for all to understand the lyrics. The title means "What Janina's Eyes Have Seen"

    I love the moment at 2:56 where the men in the background draw their swords. The execution is very natural and conveys an authenticity such that
    I feel transported into the antiquity of Epirus for a moment.
    "As we have already stressed, the mass evacuation of the Albanians from their triangle is the only effective course we can take. In order to relocate a whole people, the first prerequisite is the creation of a suitable psychosis. This can be done in various ways." - Vaso Cubrilovic

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    I'm wasting my time with you,bring the swift play,bring the wine...


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gLLYjXTIlz8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreptul Valah View Post
    I'm wasting my time with you,bring the swift play,bring the wine...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gLLYjXTIlz8
    Do not waste your time. I met Marin Chisar in the 1980s. One of our original great instrumentalists (whistle, pipe, bagpipe, pan flute and vocal) of authentic folk music. Gheorghe Zamfir was his disciple. Here is at the age of 80 singing in Chisinau. God rest him in peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gidai View Post
    Do not waste your time. I met Marin Chisar in the 1980s. One of our original great instrumentalists (whistle, pipe, bagpipe, pan flute and vocal) of authentic folk music. Gheorghe Zamfir was his disciple. Here is at the age of 80 singing in Chisinau. God rest him in peace!

    Stiffer than a President, the old man...

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    I've been to Constanta in the summer with my best friend, he comes from Arges and Olt,we went without too many preparations,like in old times,in the midnight, together with the host they went to sleep,because there was nothing to drink left.
    .
    I searched in the main street some non-stop shops,but they were all close;so I have entered in a fine pub,with the cigar already light,the bodyguard was Moldavian,he started yelling,"go oustde,turn it off!";I responded,staring at him,"can't do that,it was lighted already.



    After,he got really mad,kept threatening and I was calmly looking at the bartender,while he was on my sight too.



    I went outside with the beer and the cigar,the bodyguard came after me,softer,"You shouldn't have done this",he started to chat,was from Botosani,this Romanian saying is law,"The Dog that barks,doesn't bit you".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johane Derite View Post
    Beautiful. Its a shame these aren't subtitled in english for all to understand the lyrics. The title means "What Janina's Eyes Have Seen"

    I love the moment at 2:56 where the men in the background draw their swords. The execution is very natural and conveys an authenticity such that
    I feel transported into the antiquity of Epirus for a moment.
    This song is considered as the symbol of the Albanian folk. There are many imprecations made also by foreigners, French, etc. The song speaks of three people from the Laberia region, Zenel Celua with the Velciot (a man from the village of Velca), together with the valiant Jace Mavrova went to Janina, in a place called the five wells in the gorge, passing in the middle tabor (military unite in the Ottoman army) and have killed a great Pascia.

    But also the dances are beautiful:

    Shpata jon gris ferman - Grupi i Vranishtit
    Our sword torn the ferman

    It's a sung dance. It`s a song that talk about the uprisings against the Tanzimat. The song says, Albania we are ready on feet for you. We don`t pay xhelep(Ottoman taxe) and we don`t give nizams(recruits for the Ottoman army). These are the pyrrhic dances of the Albanians reported by many travellers of the of the XIX century.
    For a Lab, composing a song was always an easy thing and it was always part of their life. If two Labs met each other traveling, they sat down, smoked tobacco and began to sing. Then, after being rested a bit, everyone continued on his way.
    The song was also used when you wanted to joke or make irony with someone. For example, in these days there is a student protest against the Rama government. In the video below there are some students. The one in the middle is Lab, the others not because they don`t know how to sing. He composed the song there in the moment. The song say, we are not sheepas you want and you(Rama) will fulfill all our eight requests one by one.

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    Călușarii (Călușul)
    An old Romanian ritual dance.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C4%83lu%C8%99ari

    And a British brother


    Does Călușarii have similarities in other Balkan countries?

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    This is from the area I come from.

    Here you can see the ritual part of this pre-Christian tradition inherited from ancestral times. The purification of the evil and the curses of the fairies.
    The dance takes place in the week before the Rusalii.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gidai View Post
    Does Călușarii have similarities in other Balkan countries?
    Rusalii (Русалии) ; German , Scaloian (Герман ; Скалоян), Peperuda Пеперуда (Dodola), Calushari (Калушари) exist in Bulgaria too...and in the neighboring Orthodox Slavic countries of course.

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    "Paparudele" is an ancient ritual that has the role of bringing rain.
    Paparuda is an old divinity from the Romanian mythology, probably pre-Roman, of the fertile rain, which is invoked by groups of women and girls during the drought part of the year.




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    Ο ε μπουκουρα Μορε - Thanassis Moraitis - O e bukura More


    Petkat e te mirat tona (Ndallandishe e lere e lere) - Thanassis Moraitis



    Kenge Arbereshe - Yll i bukur

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    Afroditi Manou - Kopile moj Kopile

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    https://lyricstranslate.com/en/hajre...ins-dibra.html

    Hajredin Pasha is headed toward Radika
    where are those mountains of Dibra?


    Hajro when will you come to the Gjorica field?


    On the field of Gjorica at the fortress
    Hajredin Pasha has found trouble


    oh the pasha is in trouble
    the mountains of Dibra have sworn an oath


    yes they have sworn an oath, they have sworn all together
    Not to leave(give up) Dibra to the Turk


    Hajrdein Pasha you stupid man
    Dibra can't be forced on its knees


    Hajredin Pasha, where are your soldiers?
    slaughtered by the mountains of Dibra


    Oh they are all left behind in the mountains of Dibra
    and they were not a few, but 12 thousand


    Albanian Revolt of 1843–1844
    Part of the Albanian revolts against the Ottoman Empire
    Date 1843–1844
    Location Ottoman Albania
    Modern-day northern Albania, Kosovo, south-eastern Serbia, and western Macedonia
    Result Suppression of the revolt by the Ottomans
    Belligerents

    Ottoman Empire

    Albanian Rebels
    Commanders and leaders
    Hayredin Pasha
    Omar Pasha
    Bib Doda Pasha, Kapedan of Mirdita[1]
    Dervish Cara
    Sheh Mustafa Zerqani
    Cen Leka
    Strength
    30,000
    Unknown number of irregulars
    c. 10,000[2]
    Casualties and losses
    15,000 killed 9,000 killed


    More even than the song claims xD
    “Man cannot live without a permanent trust in something indestructible in himself, and at the same time that indestructible something as well as his trust in it may remain permanently concealed from him.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archetype0ne View Post


    https://lyricstranslate.com/en/hajre...ins-dibra.html

    Hajredin Pasha is headed toward Radika
    where are those mountains of Dibra?


    Hajro when will you come to the Gjorica field?


    On the field of Gjorica at the fortress
    Hajredin Pasha has found trouble


    oh the pasha is in trouble
    the mountains of Dibra have sworn an oath


    yes they have sworn an oath, they have sworn all together
    Not to leave(give up) Dibra to the Turk


    Hajrdein Pasha you stupid man
    Dibra can't be forced on its knees


    Hajredin Pasha, where are your soldiers?
    slaughtered by the mountains of Dibra


    Oh they are all left behind in the mountains of Dibra
    and they were not a few, but 12 thousand


    Albanian Revolt of 1843–1844
    Part of the Albanian revolts against the Ottoman Empire
    Date 1843–1844
    Location Ottoman Albania
    Modern-day northern Albania, Kosovo, south-eastern Serbia, and western Macedonia
    Result Suppression of the revolt by the Ottomans
    Belligerents

    Ottoman Empire

    Albanian Rebels
    Commanders and leaders
    Hayredin Pasha
    Omar Pasha
    Bib Doda Pasha, Kapedan of Mirdita[1]
    Dervish Cara
    Sheh Mustafa Zerqani
    Cen Leka
    Strength
    30,000
    Unknown number of irregulars
    c. 10,000[2]
    Casualties and losses
    15,000 killed 9,000 killed


    More even than the song claims xD
    Te kishe gjetur nje interpretim tjeter. Nuk eshte kenge per studio kjo o shoku. Kjo i do burrat ulur kembekryq rreth, si kjo ketu poshte:

    Dasem Dibrane Maqellara-Oda dibrane

    Sillu Shqipe nga kalaja
    Kjo eshte Dibra maja maja
    Dibra pushken ka zanat
    Per Shqiperi dhe per bajrak

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    Kisha siklet të vija Sinanin me Ermalin se ma shpifin. Thash po vija atë bukuroshen. Po ke të drejtë.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archetype0ne View Post
    Kisha siklet të vija Sinanin me Ermalin se ma shpifin. Thash po vija atë bukuroshen. Po ke të drejtë.
    Leri ata te dy se jane kot po shiko Laben ti si e kendon:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxFS5hAPtAw

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