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Thread: Population structure in Italy using ancient and modern samples

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    I must be a white supremacist by writting down this kind of info.
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    You mean Europeans cannot juge America, but Americans can juge Europe because they originally came from there?
    Not at all, Read my previous post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Not at all, Read my previous post.
    Well i'm not anti-american at all, most of my culture comes from there. But what Jovialis quoted.

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    If this conversation does not go back to the topic of this thread, there will be consequences.

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    2 out of 2 members found this post helpful.
    who ever seriously thought they were nordics, thats just an idiotic meme..

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    Quote Originally Posted by xskramx2 View Post
    who ever seriously thought they were nordics, thats just an idiotic meme..
    The main thing I wanted to highlight was that the article specifically denied the interpretation of older historians like Tenny Frank and Tacitus. Whose influence was long lasting. I thought it was pertinent to the discussion, and could give some insight to the Moots paper. Since the author retweeted it.

    I agree, the author is a strident in her tone. I think using phrases like lily white are needlessly inflammatory. It would have been sufficient to just address her points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    The main thing I wanted to highlight was that the article specifically denied the interpretation of older historians like Tenny Frank and Tacitus. Whose influence was long lasting. I thought it was pertinent to the discussion, and could give some insight to the Moots paper. Since the author retweeted it.

    I agree the author is a strident in her tone. I think using phrases like lily white is needlessly inflammatory. It would have been sufficient to just address her points.
    And obviously, she is white herself. Good Era to be a Psychiatrist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Don't worry, the real white supremacists would not accept you.
    don't worry by that, I also don't accept supremacists, no matter the colour or ethnicity.
    "What I've seen so far after my entire career chasing Indoeuropeans is that our solutions look tissue thin and our problems still look monumental" J.P.Mallory

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    Quote Originally Posted by berun View Post
    don't worry by that, I also don't accept supremacists, no matter the colour or ethnicity.
    Good, neither do I. Now, let us please return to the topic of the thread.

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    Well , this thread was going very far from the track. LOL.
    Just to come back to it, if I d'ont mistake, one of the big questions is the Etruscans Italics question (and Greeks too?).
    I have no kee to date. But to come back to posts about the links between ethnicity, genomics and languages, I can say that if a period in those times has been sowing trouble in these relationships, it's the Urnfields one, I think, where maybe religion, surpopulation have had a big role; maybe too gener unbalanced moves -
    the phenomenon has showed introgressions, demic moves or/and cultural shift, more or less /brutalgradual or important according to places. My impression is that the origin IS NOT AMONG TUMULI POPS of West but rather in Hungary; we have some clues for this.
    maybe Latins, Faliscans came before Etruscans and Osco-Ombrians, here I 've no clue.
    Were Etruscans more linked to Late Pallafitti Piledwellings people (I would have linked rather to ancestors of Ligurians lately indoeuropeanized, now I do'nt know) or did they came later from more East at Urnfield times and just-post-Urnfields times , with, or followed or "patchworked" with later Osco-Ombrians?
    What I'm almost sure of is that Urnfields is a multi-ethnic move with more than a step, that even Latins stayed closer to ancestors of Greeks than did the first Celts, and that Etruscans have some link with Urnfields.To date we have no sufficient genetic data to judge and it's this game of bets which please me!
    Arguments, ladies and gentlemen? (for the fun only, waiting for valuable data)

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