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    Just as an aside, looking at the amounts of AN in Europe, except for the low population extreme northeast, Europeans are close to or over 50% AN.

    Contrary to the way people think about Europe, that's the single most important component.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Just as an aside, looking at the amounts of AN in Europe, except for the low population extreme northeast, Europeans are close to or over 50% AN.

    Contrary to the way people think about Europe, that's the single most important component.
    Indeed, and the pre-print that's been pinned on Lazaridis' tweeter for nearly a year has been under-discussed IMO

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/423079v1

    As the Anatolian_N-like population from the Paleolithic Caucasus, is suggested to be the core of all West Eurasian ancestry.

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    As to the high levels of sophistication of the Etruscan civilization, it certainly didn't come from Bell Beaker people or Central Europe. The metallurgy of Bell Beaker, for one thing, and their pottery, for another, was initially inferior to that of MN people in the Balkans, for example. Most of it had to come about from adoption of more sophisticated metallurgy, art, and on and on from the east, perhaps via their contacts with Sardinia. Also, less disruption from the steppe admixed people meant less disruption to the prior culture. The same thing happened to Italy in what became the Early Renaissance. More of the ancient culture survived, so it re-ignited there. I'm not saying that some highly advanced people from the east didn't go there. It's possible. We'll see. I'm more inclined, however, to see it as a slow spread up the peninsula.
    According to many etruscologists and archaeologists, the high levels of sophistication of Etruscan civilization have nothing to do with their origins and are mostly due to the orientalizing period. The question of the origins of the Etruscans was solved long ago by archaeologists. The thesis of the eastern origin has been proposed again by indo-europeanists, orientalists, non-etruscologists and mostly by amateur scholars. While the majority of etruscologists, of any nationality (it is a lie written by the indo-europeanist Beekes that the autochthony of the Etruscans was only supported by Italian etruscologists), have never changed their minds.

    The Etruscans certainly had many contacts and not only with the Greeks, being connected to all the main cultural and commercial routes of the time. From central Europe, to south-western and south-eastern Europe and the Aegean, of course. The Greeks called the Tyrrhenians "pirates". But the first contacts with the East Mediterranean with archaeological evidence date back to Frattesina in the south of Veneto, which is a site of the proto-Villanovan era. While today there are testimonies of previous contacts with movements not only from east to west, but also from west to east.

    The Etruscans are the cultural synthesis of all this. Then, of course, small groups of foreigners may have arrived in Etruria, but they were foreigners assimilated by the Etruscans, not the ancestors of the Etruscans.

    Of course the question of the language remains open, but it is difficult to believe and very unlikely that the Rhaetian language spoken in the Eastern Alps also came from a recent migration and that the Rhaetians were "Etruscans" driven out by the Gauls. The Rhaetian language is attested before the Gallic invasions of northern Italy, the Rhaetians are identified with a material culture called Fritzens-Sanzeno which is not Etruscan and the relations between Rhaetians and Etruscans seem very ancient both on an archaeological and linguistic level. Then, if it is definitively proved that also the Camunic language spoken in the Central Alps was also related to the Rhaetian language and therefore part of the same family, at this point it becomes really clear that it is a pre-Indo-European language that has been present for a long time. Moreover, the few inscriptions of Lemnos, written in an alphabet more common in Italy and Greece than in Asia Minor, are more recent than the oldest Etruscan inscriptions in Italy.

    Without a doubt, the Etruscans owe much of their growth to their contacts with the Aegean Sea and the ancient Near East, but this is also true for the Greeks and, to a lesser extent, for the Romans.

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    South Asians, and you can probably include East Asians are very wealthy in USA because that country has attracted the brightest and richest people to immigrate.
    you mean the exception confirms the rule? would republicans dislike south asians if there wasn't such a bias in your opinion?

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    How the hell does Davidski have all the Raveane genomes already and plugged into G25? Anyone know if they were published anywhere and when?

    I guess he doesn't like people from Emilia Romagna. They're not included. :)

    Anyone remember how much Iran Neo was in the Greek Neolithic? How much was in the Minoans?

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    I'm sorry to say it, but ONE Liguria sample and no samples from Emilia Romagna is NOT helpful.

    We've known for ages that there's a difference between western and eastern Liguria, as we know that Emilia Romagna is a bridge between areas further north and Toscana.

    Without these samples it's going to look like there's a break between the far north and Toscana, which is not true. The break starts with Central South/Italy, i.e. Marche, Umbria, and especially Lazio and the Abruzzi. Only someone completely clueless about Italian genetics would exclude them. Makes no sense, unless there's some purpose to this madness?

    This is the kind of stuff that makes me distrust the Global 25 results in general. Everything depends on the samples chosen.

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    Like I said, it leads to an incorrect PCA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    According to many etruscologists and archaeologists, the high levels of sophistication of Etruscan civilization have nothing to do with their origins and are mostly due to the orientalizing period. The question of the origins of the Etruscans was solved long ago by archaeologists. The thesis of the eastern origin has been proposed again by indo-europeanists, orientalists, non-etruscologists and mostly by amateur scholars. While the majority of etruscologists, of any nationality (it is a lie written by the indo-europeanist Beekes that the autochthony of the Etruscans was only supported by Italian etruscologists), have never changed their minds.

    The Etruscans certainly had many contacts and not only with the Greeks, being connected to all the main cultural and commercial routes of the time. From central Europe, to south-western and south-eastern Europe and the Aegean, of course. The Greeks called the Tyrrhenians "pirates". But the first contacts with the East Mediterranean with archaeological evidence date back to Frattesina in the south of Veneto, which is a site of the proto-Villanovan era. While today there are testimonies of previous contacts with movements not only from east to west, but also from west to east.

    The Etruscans are the cultural synthesis of all this. Then, of course, small groups of foreigners may have arrived in Etruria, but they were foreigners assimilated by the Etruscans, not the ancestors of the Etruscans.

    Of course the question of the language remains open, but it is difficult to believe and very unlikely that the Rhaetian language spoken in the Eastern Alps also came from a recent migration and that the Rhaetians were "Etruscans" driven out by the Gauls. The Rhaetian language is attested before the Gallic invasions of northern Italy, the Rhaetians are identified with a material culture called Fritzens-Sanzeno which is not Etruscan and the relations between Rhaetians and Etruscans seem very ancient both on an archaeological and linguistic level. Then, if it is definitively proved that also the Camunic language spoken in the Central Alps was also related to the Rhaetian language and therefore part of the same family, at this point it becomes really clear that it is a pre-Indo-European language that has been present for a long time. Moreover, the few inscriptions of Lemnos, written in an alphabet more common in Italy and Greece than in Asia Minor, are more recent than the oldest Etruscan inscriptions in Italy.

    Without a doubt, the Etruscans owe much of their growth to their contacts with the Aegean Sea and the ancient Near East, but this is also true for the Greeks and, to a lesser extent, for the Romans.
    The cumunic language is from the camuni people, a major group of the indigenous people called Euganei.....the euganei are the first venetic people.... they should also be connected with polada and este cultures
    Fathers mtdna ...... T2b17
    Grandfather paternal mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ...... K1a4p
    Mothers line ..... R1b-S8172
    Grandmother paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
    Wife paternal line ..... R1a-PF6155

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    The cumunic language is from the camuni people, a major group of the indigenous people called Euganei.....the euganei are the first venetic people.... they should also be connected with polada and este cultures
    Camunic language is considered a pre–Indo-European language and some scholars think is related to the Rhaetian language. Others think Camunic language might be related to that of the Euganei, but we have not Euganei inscriptions as I know. Euganei were very unlikely the first Venetic people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    Camunic language is considered a pre–Indo-European language and some scholars think is related to the Rhaetian language. Others think Camunic language might be related to that of the Euganei, but we have not Euganei inscriptions as I know. Euganei were very unlikely the first Venetic people.
    Eth. EUGA´NEI a people of Northern Italy, who play but an unimportant part in historical times, but appear at an earlier period to have been more powerful and widely spread. Livy expressly tells us (1.1) that they occupied the whole tract from the Alps to the head of the Adriatic, from which they were expelled by the Veneti. And it is quite in accordance with this statement that Pliny describes Verona as inhabited partly by Rhaetians, partly by Euganeans, and that Cato enumerated 34 towns belonging to them. (Plin. Nat. 3.19. s. 23, 20. s. 24.) They appear to have been driven by the Veneti into the valleys of the Alps on the Italian side of the chain, where they continued to subsist in the time of Pliny as a separate people, and had received the Latin franchise. But they must also have occupied the detached group of volcanic hills between Patavium and Verona, which are still known as the Euganean Hills (Colli Euganei), a name evidently transmitted by uninterrupted tradition, though not found in any ancient geographer.


    Clearly Ateste is a euganei town in origin

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    Eth. EUGA´NEI a people of Northern Italy, who play but an unimportant part in historical times, but appear at an earlier period to have been more powerful and widely spread. Livy expressly tells us (1.1) that they occupied the whole tract from the Alps to the head of the Adriatic, from which they were expelled by the Veneti. And it is quite in accordance with this statement that Pliny describes Verona as inhabited partly by Rhaetians, partly by Euganeans, and that Cato enumerated 34 towns belonging to them. (Plin. Nat. 3.19. s. 23, 20. s. 24.) They appear to have been driven by the Veneti into the valleys of the Alps on the Italian side of the chain, where they continued to subsist in the time of Pliny as a separate people, and had received the Latin franchise. But they must also have occupied the detached group of volcanic hills between Patavium and Verona, which are still known as the Euganean Hills (Colli Euganei), a name evidently transmitted by uninterrupted tradition, though not found in any ancient geographer. Clearly Ateste is a euganei town in origin
    If Euganei were expelled from the Veneti, how can they be the first Venetic people? The Euganei were certainly one of the first Venetic people, if not the first, in a broad sense. But they were more similar to Camuni and Rhaetians than to the Veneti in my opinion. Euganei probably represented the pre-indo-European layer. Of course, this does not imply that in the late Bronze Age or early Iron age Euganei were genetically completely pre-Indo-European or EEF. I don't know if it's clear what I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    If Euganei were expelled from the Veneti, how can they be the first Venetic people? The Euganei were certainly one of the first Venetic people, if not the first, in a broad sense. But they were more similar to Camuni and Rhaetians than to the Veneti in my opinion. Euganei probably represented the pre-indo-European layer. Of course, this does not imply that in the late Bronze Age or early Iron age Euganei were genetically completely pre-Indo-European or EEF. I don't know if it's clear what I mean.
    If the venetic and rhaetic are similar in languages, then clearly they did not come via any anatolian migration, but from the indigenous Euganei
    With oxford uni. papers claiming venetic appeared not before 1150bc, then the Euganei must be the source.

    Also roman historian Cato stating the euganei where numerous , 34 towns , and wide spread, ......we need to only investigate how long they where there

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    If the venetic and rhaetic are similar in languages
    I think you're confusing the language with the alphabet/script again.


    If the Venetic and the Rhaetic/Rhaetian are similar in languages, it means that the Venetic is also a Tyrrhenian language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post


    By the Late Republic, if the Italics from the steppe did mix with the Aegean-like populations in Southern Italy; figures C and F sort of look like Italia during that time.



    Moreover, my K36 heat map sort of looks like a silhouette of the Roman empire.

    From 340 BCE, Rome started expanding its territory by waging war with its neighbours, first the other Latin tribes, then the Samnites and Umbrians (other Italic peoples), the Etruscans and the Greeks of southern Italy, who were all conquered by 270 BCE. All these people became assimilated by the Romans and acquired Roman citizenship in 88 BCE at the end of the Social War. During the Late Republican period, the Roman ethnicity was no longer purely Italic, but increasingly a meger of Italic, Greek and Etruscan people.

    https://www.eupedia.com/history/roman_trivia.shtml
    Maciamo is spot on with his trivia of the Ancient Romans.

    I think that after this point, that merger which created the Late Republican Romans of Italia, then permeated throughout Europe, within the boarders of the empire.

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    How peculiar that these authors are still running up the flag for a significantly Near Eastern arrival in Toscana, i.e. the Herodotus theory. I guess they're not very plugged in. If the rumours are correct they're going to have eggs all over their faces, along with Carlos Quilles.

    Maybe that's why they were looking for an "Iranian farmer" component. Unfortunately for them, it's only in the south.

    The more I think about that component, the more bizarre it seems. Iran Neo is really a lot of Iran herder plus a lot of Anatolian Neo. It probably could be split up into Anatolian Neo and CHG like.

    They themselves think there are differences in the results depending upon which CHG sample they use.

    No, this paper is definitely NOT the one.

    Not to mention that PCAs are being generated all over the place which are incorrect because there's only ONE Ligurian sample, and NO Emilia Romagna samples.

    Shoemakers, my dad would have said. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    I think you're confusing the language with the alphabet/script again.


    If the Venetic and the Rhaetic/Rhaetian are similar in languages, it means that the Venetic is also a Tyrrhenian language.
    your missing the point, it has nothing to do with alphabet or script , nothing to do with the venetic from the black sea area or the rhaetic people from central europe. it has to do with that it must belong to the indigenous people of the eastern alps and the plains of modern veneto and friuli ....the Euganei people ..........who are associated with Camunic, Magre or Atestine and these are all the same as is rhaetic , venetic...........the alphabet or script or anything could not have migrated to this area from anywhere with any other people. I cannot see this script or alphabet being from Black sea anatolia to the german lands of central europe, it makes no sense, it can only come from the Euganei.

    Giancarlo Tomezzoli states the Rhaetic came from The ancient Rhaetians were a Central European people spread in a land comprising: Voralberg and Tirol in present Austria, Trentino and Western Veneto in present Italy, Eastern Switzerland Cantons, part of Bavaria and Baden-Würtenberg in present Germany. The Venetic from the Black sea Anatolia

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    I had to remove some samples because they were drifting too much. G25 miscalculations or because of the samples themselves? An individual from Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige plots in the Hungarian cluster, an individual from Italian_Northeast plots between Slovenes and Croats. Why did the study use people from the Alps who are not completely Italian?

    Yes, Liguria is represented by a single individual. There is a small hole between central Italy and northern Italy due to the lack of samples but the distance is small especially between Italian_Tuscany and the Ligurian sample in this PCA.

    What I find interesting is that the PCA with these new samples shows that not all northern Italy is Iberian-like. The genetic structure of northern Italy seems to me more complex than that of the rest of the country and more samples for northern Italy are needed.






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    The "hole" is not between central and northern Italy but between Northern Italy and Toscana, and it doesn't exist in reality. Emilia Romagna would undoubtedly fill that space, as it does on PCAs based on complete sets of samples. Btw, Toscana is not Central Italy.

    Western Liguria, from which the Ligurian sample probably comes given where it plots, is more "northern" than eastern Liguria, but you wouldn't know it by using one sample. There is also a lot of variation within Emilia Romagna, especially west versus east.

    I have been saying for more than ten years that there is by far more variation within the Northern Italian group than there is within the part of Italy which was known as the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies. The only slight difference is the North African in Sicilians.

    Amateurs have been sold a bill of goods about Southern Italy based on old calculator results of people of unknown actual provenance, although this paper's conclusions deserve no prize. It certainly isn't a good sign that they couldn't be trusted to make sure that all four grandparents were Italian, and not some descendants of German or Croatian families stranded when the borders changed. Where did they go to get some samples, in the most northern regions of the Alto Adige or Istria? For crying out loud. If they're using them to calculate fst distances from western Sicilians for example, they're exaggerating the overall variation. I don't know if they're just dumb or what.

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    Geneticists have to be very careful with samples from Trentino Alto-Adige. A lot of the real "natives" are actually of Austrian/German stock. Then there are some much more recent Italian arrivals from further south. You have to decide what you're trying to see and then pick the samples carefully accordingly. Even after taking the obvious outliers out, I wouldn't necessarily trust the placement of that Trentino sample(s). The same is true for "northeast" Italy. You shouldn't use those highly drifted samples that were part of a medical study if I remember correctly. They're not representative. Neither, of course, should you use samples like those from, for example, a family like that of Lidia Bastianich.


    If samples from, say, Provence, were available, you'd see other correspondences.

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    It always depends on the samples chosen. This is very true for every amateur tool, also true for academic studies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brick View Post
    It always depends on the samples chosen. This is very true for every amateur tool, also true for academic studies.
    Very true, Brick. That's why not only should the samples be chosen honestly, they should also be chosen with professionalism and a knowledge of the "ethnic" context.

    It's inexcusable to include Croatians and Germans, and to think you can capture the variation of any Italian province with one sample. What makes it worse is that these are Italians.

    Why Davidski didn't include Emilia Romagna in what he released I have no idea. If the authors didn't want to release them then likewise I don't get it. Did they use substandard samples?

    You can't test the work of another group unless you have access to all the samples. How is anyone supposed to try to replicate their analysis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Very true, Brick. That's why not only should the samples be chosen honestly, they should also be chosen with professionalism and a knowledge of the "ethnic" context.

    It's inexcusable to include Croatians and Germans, and to think you can capture the variation of any Italian province with one sample. What makes it worse is that these are Italians.

    Why Davidski didn't include Emilia Romagna in what he released I have no idea. If the authors didn't want to release them then likewise I don't get it. Did they use substandard samples?

    You can't test the work of another group unless you have access to all the samples. How is anyone supposed to try to replicate their analysis?
    Not even a sample was release from Piedmont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    The "hole" is not between central and northern Italy but between Northern Italy and Toscana, and it doesn't exist in reality. Emilia Romagna would undoubtedly fill that space, as it does on PCAs based on complete sets of samples. Btw, Toscana is not Central Italy.

    Western Liguria, from which the Ligurian sample probably comes given where it plots, is more "northern" than eastern Liguria, but you wouldn't know it by using one sample. There is also a lot of variation within Emilia Romagna, especially west versus east.
    Well said, Angela.
    In the past few days Pax had the patience to rework the PCA, including my data, and I fall exactly into the "ghost" cluster, a little dispersed from the others.


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    @Angela, and Brick:

    Here are some of the samples from the study, along with the Sample ID. I took it from the supplement material, in the study. It is in the first excel sheet, in Data File S1 on the cluster composition tabs

    SCItaly1 ITC-ABR_G Alp090
    SCItaly1 ITC-ABR_G Alp140
    SCItaly1 ITC-ABR_G ALP161
    SCItaly1 ITC-ABR_G Alp162
    SItaly3 ITC-ABR_G ALP205
    SCItaly1 ITC-ABR_G Alp380
    SItaly3 ITC-ABR_G Alp503
    SCItaly1 ITC-ABR_G Alp616
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id004
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id019
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id022
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id056
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id066
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id083
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id100
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id113
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id118
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id146
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id185
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id188
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id189
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id209
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id215
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id216
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id223
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id225
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id230
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id236
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id251
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id257
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id262
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id273
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id274
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G id278
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    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G NOR28
    SCItaly1 ITC-LAZ_G PG28
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    SCItaly1 ITC-MAR_G MarABP050D
    SCItaly1 ITC-MAR_G MarABQ080D
    SCItaly1 ITC-MAR_G MarABU050D
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    SCItaly1 ITC-MAR_G MarACM040D
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    SCItaly1 ITC-MAR_G MarACV100D
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    SCItaly1 ITC-MAR_G MarACW080D
    SCItaly1 ITC-MAR_G MarACY030D
    SCItaly1 ITC-MAR_G MarADC050D
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    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G id018
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G id031
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    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G id068
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G id074
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G id086
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G id091
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G id117
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G id122
    NCItaly3 ITC-TSI_G id136
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G id169
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G id177
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    SCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G id296
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    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20502
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20503
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20504
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20505
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20506
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20507
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20508
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20509
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20510
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20512
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20513
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20514
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20515
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20516
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20517
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20518
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20519
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20520
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20521
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20522
    NItaly3 ITC-TSI_G NA20524
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20525
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20527
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20528
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20529
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20530
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20531
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20532
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20533
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20534
    NItaly3 ITC-TSI_G NA20535
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20536
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20537
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20538
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20539
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20540
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20541
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20542
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20543
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20544
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20581
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20582
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20585
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20586
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20588
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20589
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20752
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20753
    NCItaly2 ITC-TSI_G NA20754
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20755
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20756
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    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20765
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20766
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    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20774
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    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20819
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    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G NA20828
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G VO59
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G VO65
    NCItaly1 ITC-TSI_G VO109
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    SCItaly1 ITC-UMB_G PG05
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    SCItaly1 ITC-UMB_G PG07
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    NItaly3 ITN-LIG_G id027
    NItaly3 ITN-LIG_G id035
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    NItaly3 ITN-LIG_G id063
    NItaly3 ITN-LIG_G id089
    NItaly3 ITN-LIG_G id093
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    NItaly4 ITN-LOM_G BGD103
    NItaly4 ITN-LOM_G BGD301
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    NItaly4 ITN-LOM_G id013
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    NItaly3 ITN-LOM_G id050
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    NItaly4 ITN-LOM_G id090
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    NItaly3 ITN-PIE_G id163
    NItaly3 ITN-PIE_G id207
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    NItaly3 ITN-PIE_G id217
    NItaly3 ITN-PIE_G id218
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    NItaly3 ITN-PIE_G id255
    NItaly3 ITN-PIE_G id259
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    NItaly6 ITN-VEN_G KF1803105
    NItaly3 ITN-VEN_G KF1803109
    NItaly6 ITN-VEN_G KF1803151
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    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G id009
    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G id017
    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G id026
    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G id038
    SItaly2 ITS-BAS_G id043
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    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G id075
    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G id102
    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G id107
    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G id111
    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G id115
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    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G id170
    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G id179
    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G id194
    SItaly2 ITS-BAS_G id211
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    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G id258
    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G id263
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    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G PG20
    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G PG21
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    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G PG24
    SItaly3 ITS-BAS_G PG25
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    SItaly1 ITS-CAL_G id174
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    SItaly3 ITS-PUG_G GS34
    SItaly3 ITS-PUG_G GS47
    SItaly3 ITS-PUG_G Pu2
    SItaly3 ITS-PUG_G Pu3
    SItaly3 ITS-PUG_G Pu7
    SItaly1 ITS-PUG_G Pu8
    SItaly3 ITS-PUG_G Pu45
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    Sardinia1 ITS-SAR_G id003
    Sardinia1 ITS-SAR_G id006
    Sardinia1 ITS-SAR_G id021
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    Sardinia1 ITS-SAR_G id058
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    Sardinia1 ITS-SAR_G id108
    Sardinia1 ITS-SAR_G id109
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    Sardinia1 ITS-SAR_G id134
    Sardinia1 ITS-SAR_G id135
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    Sardinia1 ITS-SAR_G id175
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    Sardinia1 ITS-SAR_G id228
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    Sardinia1 ITS-SAR_G id287
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    Sicily1 ITS-SIC_G id025
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    SItaly1 ITS-SIC_G id064
    Sicily2 ITS-SIC_G id070
    Sicily1 ITS-SIC_G id076
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    Sicily1 ITS-SIC_G id095
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    SItaly1 ITS-SIC_G id143
    Sicily2 ITS-SIC_G id144
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    SItaly1 ITS-SIC_G id270
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    SItaly3 ITS-SIC_G id293



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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b1a1b2a2a
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H6a1b7

    Ethnic group
    Italian
    Country: United States



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    FYI

    The SBA like ancestry in this study is mostly associated with Finnish-like ancestry. That is want they mean by NEurope 1

    NEurope1 Finnish HG00171
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00173
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00174
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00176
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00177
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00178
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00179
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00180
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00181
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00182
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00183
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00185
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00186
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00187
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00188
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00189
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00190
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00266
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00267
    NEurope1 Finnish HG00268
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    To make a broad generalization according to this study, you can say everyone in Europe is just on a gradient of being Finnish-like (SBA), Sardinian-like (EEF), Apulian-Like (ABA), with WHG as a minority component. Because that’s what is inferred by using these types of components.

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