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    Ailichu/Jovialis: Model fits using 1) Ancient Sicilian samples from Fernandes et al 2020, 2) Ancient Greeks from Lazaridis et al 2018. Those ancient Sicilian samples in Fernandes et al 2020 were analyzed and indicated that Steppe Ancestry arrived in Sicily in 2200 BC, before the Mycenean's which also had some Steppe ancestry documented. So for me fits are pretty good, but I get slightly better fit with the Ancient Sicilian Samples than the Ancient Greeks but I would think (I will go and check) that some of those Ancient Sicilian Samples are not going to be way, way off from a galaxy far far away from the Ancient Greek samples.

    1) Model fit Dodecad 12B using Bronze Age Sicilian samples from Fernandes et al 2020

    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 6.2704% / 6.27041187 | ADC: 0.25x
    39.2 I4383_Sicily_EBA_lowcov_Vallone_Inferno
    32.2 I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    28.6 I7796_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana

    Model Fits using Dodecad 12B and Ancient Greek Samples from Lazaridis et al 2017 "Genetic origins of the Minoans and Mycenaeans"

    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 8.5519% / 8.55188147 | ADC: 0.25x
    58.0 I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
    24.4 I9131_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_C rete
    17.6 I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Pelopo nnese


    3) Dodecad model fit using ancient Natufian, Chalcolithic_Levant, and Early_MPPNB_Ain_Ghazal_Jordan samples. Looks like the early Levant Neolithic from the AinGhazal Jordanian site can get me to 14 at best, which again shows some relationship between all Near East Populations as they all stem from some Base Western Eurasian cluster but still enough variation such that Anatolian Farmers, Levant-Neolithic, Caucus HG and Iran Neolithic were distinct genetic clusters, again all somewhat related.
    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 14.0635% / 14.06345771 | ADC: 0.25x
    56.4 I1415_AG84/2_Late_MPPNB_Ain_Ghazal_Jordan
    43.6 I1416_AG83/1_Early_MPPNB_Ain_Ghazal_Jordan


    Need to see how well I can fit myself using CHG type ancestry or Iran-Neolithic or similar from Armenia, etc. But based on the Ancient Sicilian samples, the ancient Greek samples and the ancient Levant samples, and the Iron Age Roman samples from my post 806,

    1) Iron Age Roman samples give me best fit, 2) Bronze Age Sicilians give me the next best fit, 2) Ancient Greeks give me the next, and 4) Levant-Neolithic type ancestry average at best fit. Of course, the Iron Age Roman samples are from a closer time period but still we are talking about samples from 900 BC to 300 BC period.
    Last edited by Palermo Trapani; 26-06-20 at 04:23. Reason: clarification

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    Ailchu/Jovialis:

    Continuing on from post 806 and 808, 1) Used Chalcolithic Iran and Neolithic and Bronze Age Armenian samples from Dodecad 12B Ancient. I get similar distance as I did using Levant-Neolithic. There are no ancient Caucus samples (i.e Maykop) in Dodecad 12B. But those are going to be very heavily Steppe Herder type ancestry so not sure they will fit me well anyway.

    1) Ancient Iran and Armenian samples from Dodecad 12B
    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 14.4336% / 14.43356185 | ADC: 0.25x
    52.2 I1633_KA1/14_Kura-Araxes_Early_Bronze_Age_Gegharkunik_Armenia
    27.0 RISE397_Kapan_Armenia_2807_years
    20.8 RISE416_Nerquin_Getashen_Armenia_3259_years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Buonaserra Salento: I have probably seen the model in the past but what is your fit using 0.25X. For me I have always gotten better fits with K13 (more source data) vs K15 and even better with Dodecad 12B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palermo Trapani View Post
    Buonaserra Salento: I have probably seen the model in the past but what is your fit using 0.25X. For me I have always gotten better fits with K13 (more source data) vs K15 and even better with Dodecad 12B.
    I Don’t think that EU K13 and K15 are meant for me, and I also get higher distances than Dodecad.

    eu13 Single at 0.25 and 0.5:


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    Salento: The K13 model fits are pretty good. K15 not my favorite either. Dodecad K12b gives me best model fits as well.

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    Here are mine at 0.5 for K13, K15, and Dodecad K12b. Wish we had more samples from Greece.

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    Demetrios: Those are all good model fits for you. But I agree, we need more ancient samples from Greece for all our Greek brethren here at Eupedia. My distances in post 806 and 808 were using sub-samples, not full source samples available. But I have always had some really good distances for the Ancient Roman samples from Antonio et al 2019 which helps me get good overall model fits.

    Dodecad 12B (I can get fit to 0.53 using 0.25X but there are 11 components, 3 components between 1 and 1.4, and 4 components are < 1% so 0.5X more parsimonious)

    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 1.0717% / 1.07167155 | ADC: 0.5x
    35.4 R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    33.8 R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    17.2 R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
    9.0 R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
    4.6 I3808_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE

    Eurogenes K13 (0.25X has one less component than 0.5X which has I8215 in it, distance 1.32 so still good model fit)

    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 0.7512% / 0.75119401 | ADC: 0.25x
    53.8 SZ40_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
    24.2 R131_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
    12.0 I9033_Mycenaean_1352_bc_M_
    5.6 R1283_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy
    2.2 R122_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
    2.2 R132_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial


    Eurogenes K15 (While 0.25X has best fit at 1.62, it has 10 components, 3 less than 1 )

    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 3.6236% / 3.62362071 | ADC: 0.5x
    70.6 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
    19.4 Mycenaean_I9041
    4.4 Canaanite_ERS1790729
    3.4 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    1.4 France_IA_ERS88
    0.8 Botai_BOT15

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palermo Trapani View Post
    Demetrios: Those are all good model fits for you. But I agree, we need more ancient samples from Greece for all our Greek brethren here at Eupedia. My distances in post 806 and 808 were using sub-samples, not full source samples available. But I have always had some really good distances for the Ancient Roman samples from Antonio et al 2019 which helps me get good overall model fits.

    Dodecad 12B (I can get fit to 0.53 using 0.25X but there are 11 components, 3 components between 1 and 1.4, and 4 components are < 1% so 0.5X more parsimonious)

    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 1.0717% / 1.07167155 | ADC: 0.5x
    35.4 R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    33.8 R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    17.2 R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
    9.0 R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
    4.6 I3808_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE

    Eurogenes K13 (0.25X has one less component than 0.5X which has I8215 in it, distance 1.32 so still good model fit)

    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 0.7512% / 0.75119401 | ADC: 0.25x
    53.8 SZ40_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
    24.2 R131_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
    12.0 I9033_Mycenaean_1352_bc_M_
    5.6 R1283_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy
    2.2 R122_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
    2.2 R132_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial


    Eurogenes K15 (While 0.25X has best fit at 1.62, it has 10 components, 3 less than 1 )

    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 3.6236% / 3.62362071 | ADC: 0.5x
    70.6 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
    19.4 Mycenaean_I9041
    4.4 Canaanite_ERS1790729
    3.4 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    1.4 France_IA_ERS88
    0.8 Botai_BOT15
    Very nice, thanks for sharing.

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    Here is a link from the supplementary material of this paper for where to locate the modern Italian population samples.

    They are in bed, bim, and fam, format. Does anyone know how to convert them to BAM, or raw data txt. file format?

    https://capelligroup.wordpress.com/data/

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/i3xpko28yi...ciAdv.zip?dl=0

    I would like to create coordinates for each of them to using in gedmatch calculators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Here is a link from the supplementary material of this paper for where to locate the modern Italian population samples.

    They are in bed, bim, and fam, format. Does anyone know how to convert them to BAM, or raw data txt. file format?

    https://capelligroup.wordpress.com/data/

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/i3xpko28yi...ciAdv.zip?dl=0

    I would like to create coordinates for each of them to using in gedmatch calculators.
    … got it ….

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    MarABG010D_Marche,6.05,0,3.02,0.18,32.69,19.66,0.12,0.25,10.45,0,27.57,0
    MarABI020D_Marche,7.25,0,3.21,0,33.85,17.74,0,0.10,8.68,0,28.86,0.32
    MarABN020D_Marche,7.08,0.73,1.75,0.22,31.78,18.77,0,0,10.49,0,29.18,0
    MarABP050D_Marche,7.43,0,2.35,0,32.72,17.90,0,0.21,9.80,0.20,29.41,0
    MarABQ080D_Marche,6.21,0.17,1.89,0,32.81,19.04,0,0,10.96,0.12,28.79,0
    MarABU050D_Marche,7.29,0,1.62,0,33.47,21.39,0,0,9.14,1.17,25.92,0
    MarABY030D_Marche,6.75,0,3.69,0,29.95,18.59,0,0.23,11.27,0,29.52,0
    MarACO100D_Marche,6.86,0,2.00,0,30.72,17.68,0,0,12.10,0.08,30.56,0
    MarACV100D_Marche,7.26,0,1.62,0,31.47,21.05,0.39,0,10.41,0.48,27.31,0
    MarACW030D_Marche,6.82,0,3.04,0,33.76,20.81,0,0,8.63,0,26.94,0
    MarACW080D_Marche,9.16,0.87,0.94,0,31.17,19.68,0,0,9.61,0,28.58,0
    MarACY030D_Marche,6.26,0,2.36,0.35,31.64,18.52,0.43,0,10.01,0,30.43,0
    MarADC050D_Marche,4.77,0,1.93,0,33.54,20.62,0.11,0,7.86,0,31.17,0
    MarADG030D_Marche,6.69,0,2.77,0,31.83,21.00,0.02,0,10.04,0.11,27.55,0
    PG26_Molise,7.76,0,2.20,0,29.91,16.67,0,0.57,10.84,0,32.01,0.04
    PG27_Molise,6.36,0.05,1.15,0.55,29.66,17.90,0,0,10.92,0.28,32.78,0.33
    ALP070_Trentino-Alto-Adige,5.23,0.08,0.80,0,38.53,31.31,0,0,5.23,0.41,18.42,0
    ALP071_Trentino-Alto-Adige,4.72,0,0.88,0,37.95,33.21,0,0,4.51,0.47,18.18,0.09
    ALP114_Trentino-Alto-Adige,5.13,0.56,1.16,0,38.67,21.62,0,0,7.86,0,25,0
    ALP200_Trentino-Alto-Adige,5.96,0,0.65,0,35.41,26.93,0.24,0,7.64,0.25,22.93,0
    ALP395_Trentino-Alto-Adige,4.20,0,0.07,0,38.17,29.09,0.83,0,5.00,0,22.64,0
    ALP414_Trentino-Alto-Adige,4.90,1.04,0.99,0,29.11,46.33,0.19,0,3.54,0,13.91,0
    ALP420_Trentino-Alto-Adige,5.76,0,0.48,0,39.10,28.16,0.12,0,6.97,0.13,19.29,0
    MURLO114_Tuscany,5.80,0,3.27,0,34.81,20.54,1.23,0,8.47,0.02,25.86,0
    VO59_Tuscany,7.52,0,0.82,0.28,35.01,21.98,0,0,9.50,0,24.88,0
    VO65_Tuscany,3.64,0,2.60,0.17,35.94,21.03,0,0.20,8.37,0,28.06,0
    VO109_Tuscany,3.75,0.22,2.79,0,32.67,21.45,0.79,0,10.67,0,27.56,0.09
    PG03_Umbria,5.94,0,2.12,0,32.67,17.12,0.56,0.20,11.11,0.02,30.25,0
    PG04_Umbria,6.34,0.25,2.53,0,30.64,20.66,0,0,9.10,0,30.47,0
    PG06_Umbria,8.95,0.13,1.08,0.52,30.94,17.60,0.02,0,8.80,0,31.89,0.06
    PG07_Umbria,7.81,0.34,3.48,0,32.31,17.63,0,0,10.47,0,27.96,0
    PG08_Umbria,5.00,0,2.37,0.43,35.24,21.61,0.48,0,7.69,0.03,27.15,0
    PG11_Umbria,7.93,0.01,2.36,0,33.05,19.77,0,0,8.56,0,28.32,0
    PG12_Umbria,8.62,0.02,1.77,0.07,34.90,20.05,0,0,7.63,0.04,26.90,0
    PG15_Umbria,7.94,0,2.72,0,32.52,16.83,0.67,0,10.33,0,28.99,0
    ALP022_Veneto,6.59,0,0.49,0,36.53,27.87,0,0,7.34,0,21.18,0
    ALP040_Veneto,5.15,0,1.04,0,41.60,25.12,0,0,3.85,0,23.24,0
    Alp100_Veneto,4.58,0.41,0.87,0.93,39.09,28.70,0,0,7.01,0.28,18.13,0
    ALP116_Veneto,5.45,0.19,2.34,0,36.99,24.61,0,0,7.69,0,22.73,0
    ALP209_Veneto,4.85,0,2.14,0,34.32,25.27,0,0,7.89,0,25.49,0.04
    ALP249_Veneto,5.45,0,2.23,0,35.92,27.84,0.14,0,5.44,0,22.98,0
    ALP250_Veneto,4.19,0.15,0.96,0.11,37.49,30.40,0.47,0,6.61,0.02,19.60,0
    ALP273_Veneto,4.14,0.12,0.71,0,35.42,29.00,0.35,0,7.02,0,23.07,0.16
    ALP322_Veneto,3.54,0,1.12,0,35.56,30.22,0.15,0,5.64,0,23.77,0
    ALP378_Veneto,5.59,0.04,0.53,0,35.23,29.58,0.40,0,4.93,0,23.71,0
    Alp401_Veneto,5.76,0,0.27,0.72,39.59,27.28,0,0,5.84,0,20.49,0.04
    KF1800751_Veneto,4.56,0,0.81,0,38.52,26.88,0,0.05,7.07,0,22.11,0
    KF1800772_Veneto,5.25,0,1.04,0,38.57,25.21,0.67,0,5.09,0,24.17,0
    KF1803105_Veneto,4.62,0,1.32,0.04,37.25,29.44,0,0.07,5.73,0,21.53,0
    KF1803109_Veneto,4.97,0.48,2.18,0,36.60,25.47,0,0,8.09,0,22.22,0
    KF1803151_Veneto,7.23,0,0,1.06,36.73,29.47,0.05,0,6.47,0,18.99,0
    Last edited by Salento; 22-05-22 at 15:54. Reason: added the 4 missing Lombardy samples, ...final complete list

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    Salento/Jovialis:

    I might have missed it but what paper are those samples that Salento produced coordinates for in post #811. Are they from all 6 in the link from Jovialis post? Salento, BTW, thanks for those coordinates. My first pass at them (top 25)

    Distance to: PalermoTrapani_ANCESTRY
    2.29802089 NaN212CR_Campania
    2.34757322 PG24_Basilicata
    2.76515822 NaN43TC_Campania
    2.88128444 Alp380_Abruzzo
    3.07784015 Alp090_Abruzzo
    3.34148171 NaN128LA_Campania
    3.38487814 NaN46TC_Campania
    3.38625161 NOR28_Lazio
    3.46723233 NaN293SF_Campania
    3.53749912 PG19_Basilicata
    3.57910603 PG17_Basilicata
    3.58319690 NaN119AMR_Campania
    3.81167942 Alp503_Abruzzo
    3.93417081 cera8_Apulia
    3.96143913 cera9_Apulia
    4.00804192 cera1_Apulia
    4.01978855 cera2_Apulia
    4.13014528 NaN238DM_Campania
    4.21352584 PG25_Basilicata
    4.23049642 PG26_Molise
    4.28063079 NaN58AC_Campania
    4.32399121 GS34_Apulia
    4.52071897 ALP379_Apulia
    4.69476304 PG18_Basilicata
    4.70507173 Pu45_Apulia

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    Distance to: Torziok12b
    1.63711731 ALP022_Veneto
    2.08712721 ALP235_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    2.80196360 ALP249_Veneto
    2.82104591 KF2700960_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    2.84116173 ALP346_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    3.05674664 ALP200_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    3.09166622 ALP354_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    3.11242671 ALP280_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    3.25023076 KF1803151_Veneto
    3.28800852 KF1803105_Veneto
    3.42483576 ALP081_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    3.61798286 KF1800761_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    3.89629311 ALP378_Veneto
    3.92330218 ALP273_Veneto
    4.13805510 ALP420_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    4.16438471 KF1803109_Veneto
    4.19916658 KF1800751_Veneto
    4.21149617 ALP288_Lombrardy
    4.36495132 ALP250_Veneto
    4.37962327 Alp401_Veneto
    4.60943597 ALP225_Aosta-Valley
    4.63782277 ALP395_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    4.66079392 ALP116_Veneto
    4.85242208 KF1803129_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    4.92197115 ALP099_Liguria



    Target: Torziok12b
    Distance: 0.4478% / 0.44777121
    35.4 ALP225_Aosta-Valley
    29.2 ALP420_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    15.0 NaN58AC_Campania
    9.3 KF1803151_Veneto
    7.8 ALP414_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    3.3 MURLO114_Tuscany
    Fathers mtdna ...... T2b17
    Grandfather paternal mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ...... K1a4p
    Mothers line ..... R1b-S8172
    Grandmother paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
    Wife paternal line ..... R1a-PF6155

    "Fear profits man, nothing"

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    my father numbers

    Distance to: Ponsan_K12b
    2.04137209 KF1800761_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    2.17639610 KF2700960_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    2.19034244 ALP250_Veneto
    2.25153281 ALP354_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    2.64340689 KF1803105_Veneto
    2.70848666 ALP235_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    2.73808327 ALP081_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    2.82092184 ALP022_Veneto
    3.14057320 ALP346_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    3.22077630 KF1803151_Veneto
    3.30548030 KF1803129_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    3.36611052 ALP273_Veneto
    3.64498285 ALP420_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    3.86326287 Alp100_Veneto
    3.87063302 ALP280_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    3.98472082 ALP249_Veneto
    4.09752364 ALP200_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    4.20815874 KF1800751_Veneto
    4.22960991 ALP506_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    4.25717042 ALP070_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    4.32677709 ALP395_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    4.52066367 ALP322_Veneto
    4.58528080 ALP233_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    4.59798869 ALP378_Veneto
    4.63966594 Alp401_Veneto


    Target: Ponsan_K12b
    Distance: 0.5603% / 0.56031111
    36.5 ALP250_Veneto
    27.0 Alp100_Veneto
    11.7 MURLO114_Tuscany
    10.4 ALP414_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    6.1 ALP420_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    3.9 PG21_Basilicata
    3.7 Alp162_Abruzzo
    0.7 KF1803151_Veneto

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    @PT …yes, these are the samples of Jovialis link and this thread: “Population structure of modern-day Italians reveals patterns of ancient and archaic ancestries in Southern Europe”. The samples are the modern-day Italians.


    Target: Salento
    Distance: 0.3180% / 0.31803339
    57.7 Pu3_Apulia
    23.3 Pu2_Apulia
    8.1 VO109_Tuscany
    5.1 ALP379_Apulia
    3.8 ALP188_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    2.0 PG20_Basilicata

    Distance to: Salento
    1.52384382 Pu2_Apulia
    2.02150934 ALP205_Abruzzo
    2.58338925 PG18_Basilicata
    2.83665296 ALP379_Apulia
    3.18932595 PG20_Basilicata
    3.25306010 GS47_Apulia
    3.32890372 GS34_Apulia


    I guess GS is Grecìa Salentina, ... I Think :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    @PT …yes, these are the samples of Jovialis link and this thread: “Population structure of modern-day Italians reveals patterns of ancient and archaic ancestries in Southern Europe”. The samples are the modern-day Italians.


    Target: Salento
    Distance: 0.3180% / 0.31803339
    57.7 Pu3_Apulia
    23.3 Pu2_Apulia
    8.1 VO109_Tuscany
    5.1 ALP379_Apulia
    3.8 ALP188_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    2.0 PG20_Basilicata

    Distance to: Salento
    1.52384382 Pu2_Apulia
    2.02150934 ALP205_Abruzzo
    2.58338925 PG18_Basilicata
    2.83665296 ALP379_Apulia
    3.18932595 PG20_Basilicata
    3.25306010 GS47_Apulia
    3.32890372 GS34_Apulia


    I guess GS is Grecìa Salentina, ... I Think :)
    Salento: The Raveane et al 2019 paper, Grazie Mille. Great work man!

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    Mine: I suppose that since there are no samples from Emilia and Romagna, the results are a little more unusual and work with more atypical averages and combos

    Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    1.76278189 ALP209_Veneto
    4.04056927 PG08_Umbria
    4.21613567 MarABU050D_Marche
    4.24811723 VO109_Tuscany
    4.25477379 VO59_Tuscany
    4.43745423 ALP099_Liguria
    4.59314707 MarACW030D_Marche
    4.67183048 MURLO114_Tuscany
    4.75082098 ALP200_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    4.76308723 ALP116_Veneto
    4.77274554 KF1803109_Veneto
    4.89257601 ALP288_Lombrardy
    4.91722483 MarADG030D_Marche
    5.07163682 VO65_Tuscany
    5.16462002 AL12_Albanian
    5.25430300 MarACV100D_Marche
    5.30606257 AL9_Albanian
    5.67941018 MarABG010D_Marche
    6.07443825 ALP114_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    6.11112919 ALP273_Veneto
    6.22093241 ALP249_Veneto
    6.38220965 PG11_Umbria
    6.38515466 PG12_Umbria
    6.53988532 AL17_Albanian
    6.74417526 MarABQ080D_Marche

    Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    Distance: 0.9056% / 0.90556359 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    73.0 ALP209_Veneto
    19.7 VO109_Tuscany
    7.3 MarACV100D_Marche


    Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    Distance: 0.5258% / 0.52581609 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    43.4 VO109_Tuscany
    23.3 ALP209_Veneto
    21.2 ALP200_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    7.8 KF2700922_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    4.3 MarACV100D_Marche



    Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    Distance: 0.0662% / 0.06618802
    25.9 PG28_Lazio
    18.9 ALP259_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    9.6 ALP435_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    9.1 NaN207MM_Campania
    8.9 GS34_Apulia
    6.0 KF1803109_Veneto
    4.5 ALP354_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    4.3 ALP414_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    3.2 AL29_Albanian
    2.1 KF1803129_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    2.0 ALP273_Veneto
    2.0 Pu3_Apulia
    1.9 AL9_Albanian
    1.3 ALP209_Veneto
    0.3 ALP322_Veneto

    Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    0.47108631 40.40% KF2700922_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 59.60% PG28_Lazio
    0.59213139 33.80% ALP435_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 66.20% PG28_Lazio
    0.65966318 36.40% ALP596_Calabria + 63.60% ALP250_Veneto
    0.67380289 37.40% NaN46TC_Campania + 62.60% KF1803129_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    0.67740110 35.00% ALP346_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 65.00% VO109_Tuscany
    0.68469318 39.40% GS34_Apulia + 60.60% KF1803105_Veneto
    0.69320302 32.60% NaN46TC_Campania + 67.40% KF1800761_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    0.78136987 36.80% NaN212CR_Campania + 63.20% KF1800761_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    0.78498697 37.80% PG20_Basilicata + 62.20% ALP250_Veneto
    0.78746037 39.80% ALP205_Abruzzo + 60.20% ALP250_Veneto
    0.79843771 34.40% NaN43TC_Campania + 65.60% KF1800761_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    0.81315349 39.80% ALP093_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 60.20% PG28_Lazio
    0.83685052 39.60% AL29_Albanian + 60.40% KF1803109_Veneto
    0.84935993 41.20% ALP379_Apulia + 58.80% ALP250_Veneto
    0.85596013 47.20% ALP200_Trentino-Alto-Adige + 52.80% VO109_Tuscany
    0.87220888 28.40% ALP093_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 71.60% VO109_Tuscany
    0.87293066 56.40% KF1800761_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 43.60% MarACO100D_Marche
    0.87404590 34.00% NaN77FAM_Campania + 66.00% ALP250_Veneto
    0.87530950 37.60% GS47_Apulia + 62.40% ALP250_Veneto
    0.88563538 51.80% MarABG010D_Marche + 48.20% ALP273_Veneto
    0.88596822 32.00% KF2700960_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 68.00% VO109_Tuscany
    0.90730136 51.20% KF1803129_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 48.80% MarACO100D_Marche
    0.90939374 78.80% PG28_Lazio + 21.20% ALP414_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.91331678 43.60% GS34_Apulia + 56.40% ALP250_Veneto
    0.91634044 42.20% KF1803129_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 57.80% MarABQ080D_Marche

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    Thanks for the cordinates.
    Distance to: Stefano
    2.66323112 KF1800772_Veneto
    2.78793831 ALP114_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    3.85419252 ALP040_Veneto
    3.93568291 ALP099_Liguria
    3.95282178 ALP116_Veneto
    4.43227932 ALP288_Lombrardy
    4.81233831 KF1800751_Veneto
    4.98877741 KF1803109_Veneto
    5.78362343 Alp401_Veneto
    5.83278664 PG08_Umbria
    6.03167473 ALP200_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    6.09994262 VO59_Tuscany
    6.22117352 ALP209_Veneto
    6.23140434 ALP249_Veneto
    6.55176312 ALP280_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    6.56301760 MURLO114_Tuscany
    6.62331488 VO65_Tuscany
    6.65864851 ALP022_Veneto
    6.79281974 ALP395_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    6.80527736 ALP259_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    6.93600750 PG12_Umbria
    7.23706432 ALP420_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    7.39709402 MarABU050D_Marche
    7.39781049 KF1803105_Veneto
    7.43780209 ALP235_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia

    Target: Stefano
    Distance: 0.4365% / 0.43654232
    46.5 ALP040_Veneto
    33.5 ALP114_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    17.0 PG12_Umbria
    2.8 ALP420_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.2 VO59_Tuscany

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    … got it ….

    Code:
    Alp090_Abruzzo,6.69,0,3.58,0,30.19,16.26,0.10,0,11.63,0,31.57,0
    Alp140_Abruzzo,8.98,0,3.12,0,28.13,17.65,0,0.31,11.18,0,30.64,0
    ALP161_Abruzzo,6.41,0,1.44,0,30.32,19.51,0,0.22,10.75,0.24,31.01,0.11
    Alp162_Abruzzo,7.51,0,0.94,0.19,28.60,17.33,1.26,0,13.22,0,30.60,0.34
    ALP205_Abruzzo,6.36,0.17,2.26,0,27.71,15.44,0,0.55,12.57,0,34.86,0.07
    Alp380_Abruzzo,8.30,0,1.69,0,30.67,14.58,0.47,0.06,12.53,0,31.44,0.27
    Alp503_Abruzzo,9.66,0,2.68,0.05,29.99,14.21,0,0.19,10.83,0,32.39,0
    Alp616_Abruzzo,7.89,0,1.28,0,29.09,16.96,0,0.71,10.92,0,33.15,0
    AL9_Albanian,5.26,0,2.47,0.71,29.56,24.40,0,0.08,7.74,0,27.78,1.99
    AL12_Albanian,4.45,0.91,0.08,0,33.95,23.40,0,0,7.39,0.02,29.81,0
    AL17_Albanian,5.38,0,1.12,0,30.35,22.13,0.88,0,9.59,0,30.54,0
    AL29_Albanian,4.54,1.26,2.31,0.12,29.18,21.93,0,0.27,9.86,0,30.53,0
    AL82_Albanian,5.30,0.23,0.73,0.46,27.08,27.71,0.23,0.14,7.14,0.14,30.84,0
    AL98_Albanian,6.43,1.04,1.58,0,26.80,22.39,0.29,0,8.69,0.21,31.63,0.94
    ALP225_Aosta-Valley,6.87,0.27,1.13,0,37.44,30.93,0.24,0,3.30,0,19.83,0
    ALP227_Aosta-Valley,5.37,0.04,0.99,0,38.11,32.94,0,0.11,3.91,0,18.53,0
    ALP379_Apulia,5.72,0,3.90,0,28.18,15.53,0.67,0,11.69,0.17,34.13,0.01
    ALP583_Apulia,8.10,0,3.61,0,27.70,15.00,0.82,0.30,10.01,0,34.43,0.04
    cera1_Apulia,7.91,0,5.44,0,29.16,15.42,0,0,10.25,0,31.76,0.05
    cera2_Apulia,7.80,0,2.79,0,30.50,15.34,0,0,10.15,0,33.37,0.05
    cera8_Apulia,6.06,0,3.14,0.70,29.98,15.74,0,0.10,10.47,0.14,33.35,0.32
    cera9_Apulia,5.36,0,3.54,0,31.06,16.26,0.36,0,10.87,0,32.56,0
    GS32_Apulia,7.03,0.70,2.10,0,29.17,14.00,0.41,0.25,10.95,0,35.38,0
    GS34_Apulia,6.15,0.62,2.80,0,28.01,16.49,0,0.12,13.62,0.13,32.06,0
    GS47_Apulia,5.92,0,2.56,0,27.84,14.32,0,0.27,12.35,0.63,36.11,0
    Pu2_Apulia,5.84,0,2.93,0,26.59,17.67,0,0.71,12.28,0,33.99,0
    Pu3_Apulia,6.03,0,1.87,0,26.47,14.41,0,0.09,13.66,0,37.47,0
    Pu7_Apulia,7.79,0,3.12,0,27.68,12.85,0,0.19,11.83,0,36.54,0
    Pu8_Apulia,6.95,0,6.23,0.02,25.75,11.41,0,0.45,14.01,0.76,34.43,0
    Pu45_Apulia,7.53,0.05,2.22,0.39,29.68,15.35,0,0.40,10.10,0,34.28,0
    PG16_Basilicata,7.16,0.47,4.11,0.25,27.15,12.87,0.34,0.60,11.52,0.36,35.16,0
    PG17_Basilicata,8.95,0,1.39,0,29.77,14.55,0,0,12.92,0,32.25,0.16
    PG18_Basilicata,6.66,0,2.84,0.02,27.29,16.11,0,0,13.23,0.74,33.04,0.06
    PG19_Basilicata,6.05,0,2.34,0,28.94,15.65,0,1.07,13.30,0,32.65,0
    PG20_Basilicata,6.11,0,3.11,0,27.89,14.45,0.06,0,12.27,0,36.11,0
    PG21_Basilicata,7.28,0,3.97,0,26.27,17.49,1.27,0.28,12.37,0.28,30.79,0
    PG22_Basilicata,7.19,0,3.44,0,25.84,16.55,0,0,9.57,0,37.42,0
    PG24_Basilicata,7.33,0.09,4.22,1.09,28.61,14.27,0,0.83,12.06,0,31.50,0
    PG25_Basilicata,6.69,0.27,2.65,0.38,28.09,14.21,0.26,0.40,12.13,0.46,34.45,0
    ALP582_Calabria,6.25,0,3.73,0.03,27.11,10.05,0.99,0,13.80,1.01,36.24,0.79
    ALP596_Calabria,6.33,0,3.91,0,27.04,13.26,0,0.64,13.48,0,35.33,0
    NaN43TC_Campania,5.55,0,3.35,0.40,30.13,14.02,0,0.50,12.39,0,33.66,0
    NaN46TC_Campania,6.39,0,2.56,0,29.12,13.31,0.46,0,14.30,0,33.51,0.34
    NaN58AC_Campania,10.21,0.49,3.75,0,28.63,12.20,0.90,0.04,12.10,0.03,31.66,0
    NaN65DFG_Campania,8.00,0,4.30,0.03,27.55,10.62,0.47,0.12,13.44,0.51,34.95,0
    NaN77FAM_Campania,6.20,0,3.00,0.36,26.45,12.15,0.43,0.86,13.24,0.25,37.04,0
    NaN119AMR_Campania,6.33,0,3.12,0,27.98,15.23,0,0.79,13.71,0.40,32.44,0
    NaN128LA_Campania,7.42,0,3.69,0,29.35,12.81,0,0,12.42,0,34.31,0
    NaN195ST_Campania,7.21,0,4.57,0.68,30.71,10.79,0,0.07,10.77,0.16,34.89,0.15
    NaN207MM_Campania,7.08,0,3.16,0,26.85,14.76,0,0,14.32,0,33.60,0.22
    NaN212CR_Campania,6.82,0,2.61,0,30.35,14.95,0.28,0.35,12.19,0,32.45,0
    NaN238DM_Campania,7.03,0,1.59,0,29.82,15.65,0,0,11.91,0.14,33.86,0
    NaN275IS_Campania,7.93,0.39,3.73,0,25.40,11.31,0,0.18,14.81,0,36.08,0.17
    NaN289RM_Campania,6.45,0,2.51,1.17,28.02,14.99,0,0.55,10.85,0,35.45,0
    NaN293SF_Campania,8.28,0.11,1.74,0,29.38,13.62,0.42,0,12.80,0,33.37,0.28
    ALP081_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia,4.34,0.84,2.33,0,36.22,29.46,0.26,0.04,5.34,0,21.18,0
    ALP093_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia,6.43,0.41,0.05,0,33.92,32.71,0,0.07,5.38,0,21.03,0
    ALP188_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia,4.99,0.74,0.01,0,26.21,47.57,0,0,3.72,0.76,16.00,0
    ALP220_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia,5.39,0,0,0.17,34.02,36.20,0,0,6.01,0,18.14,0.05
    ALP233_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia,4.08,0,0,0,34.26,30.43,0.52,0,6.58,0.50,23.63,0
    ALP235_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia,5.64,0.57,1.23,0.01,35.63,28.80,0.84,0,5.51,0,21.76,0
    ALP346_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia,6.20,0.81,0.77,0,34.42,29.93,0,0,6.17,0.18,21.52,0
    ALP354_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia,5.56,0.50,0.39,0,37.04,29.93,0,0,6.12,0,20.32,0.14
    ALP259_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia,3.03,0,1.50,0,39.87,28.48,0,0,5.82,0,21.30,0
    ALP280_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia,5.74,0,0.56,0,37.35,28.82,0.30,0,4.85,0,22.40,0
    ALP435_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia,5.42,0.70,0.01,0,31.91,35.91,0,0.24,6.52,0,19.29,0
    ALP506_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia,3.59,0.13,0.92,0,36.19,30.55,0,0,5.31,0.19,23.12,0
    KF1800761_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia,4.15,0.03,1.60,0.62,35.36,29.80,0,0.10,6.99,0,21.35,0
    KF1803129_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia,3.70,0,1.39,0,35.87,31.44,0,0,5.88,0.31,21.41,0
    KF2700922_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia,4.76,0.29,0.58,0.30,32.64,33.31,0.22,0,6.10,0,21.79,0.02
    KF2700960_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia,6.04,0.50,1.49,0,35.21,30.23,0,0,6.36,0.30,19.88,0
    NOR24_Lazio,7.94,0,1.16,0,33.01,15.72,0,0.08,10.15,0,31.94,0
    NOR28_Lazio,8.17,0.11,2.62,0.22,31.46,15.60,0,0,11.20,0,30.62,0
    PG28_Lazio,4.14,0,2.92,0,34.41,18.64,0,0,11.40,0,28.49,0
    PG30_Lazio,6.88,0,2.01,0,32.07,18.84,0,0.19,11.81,0.04,28.16,0
    ALP099_Liguria,5.13,0,2.43,0,36.41,24.40,0.65,0.05,6.88,0.51,23.32,0.22
    ALP288_Lombrardy,6.04,0.79,1.67,0,36.54,24.68,0,0.23,7.79,0,22.27,0
    MarABG010D_Marche,6.05,0,3.02,0.18,32.69,19.66,0.12,0.25,10.45,0,27.57,0
    MarABI020D_Marche,7.25,0,3.21,0,33.85,17.74,0,0.10,8.68,0,28.86,0.32
    MarABN020D_Marche,7.08,0.73,1.75,0.22,31.78,18.77,0,0,10.49,0,29.18,0
    MarABP050D_Marche,7.43,0,2.35,0,32.72,17.90,0,0.21,9.80,0.20,29.41,0
    MarABQ080D_Marche,6.21,0.17,1.89,0,32.81,19.04,0,0,10.96,0.12,28.79,0
    MarABU050D_Marche,7.29,0,1.62,0,33.47,21.39,0,0,9.14,1.17,25.92,0
    MarABY030D_Marche,6.75,0,3.69,0,29.95,18.59,0,0.23,11.27,0,29.52,0
    MarACO100D_Marche,6.86,0,2.00,0,30.72,17.68,0,0,12.10,0.08,30.56,0
    MarACV100D_Marche,7.26,0,1.62,0,31.47,21.05,0.39,0,10.41,0.48,27.31,0
    MarACW030D_Marche,6.82,0,3.04,0,33.76,20.81,0,0,8.63,0,26.94,0
    MarACW080D_Marche,9.16,0.87,0.94,0,31.17,19.68,0,0,9.61,0,28.58,0
    MarACY030D_Marche,6.26,0,2.36,0.35,31.64,18.52,0.43,0,10.01,0,30.43,0
    MarADC050D_Marche,4.77,0,1.93,0,33.54,20.62,0.11,0,7.86,0,31.17,0
    MarADG030D_Marche,6.69,0,2.77,0,31.83,21.00,0.02,0,10.04,0.11,27.55,0
    PG26_Molise,7.76,0,2.20,0,29.91,16.67,0,0.57,10.84,0,32.01,0.04
    PG27_Molise,6.36,0.05,1.15,0.55,29.66,17.90,0,0,10.92,0.28,32.78,0.33
    ALP070_Trentino-Alto-Adige,5.23,0.08,0.80,0,38.53,31.31,0,0,5.23,0.41,18.42,0
    ALP071_Trentino-Alto-Adige,4.72,0,0.88,0,37.95,33.21,0,0,4.51,0.47,18.18,0.09
    ALP114_Trentino-Alto-Adige,5.13,0.56,1.16,0,38.67,21.62,0,0,7.86,0,25,0
    ALP200_Trentino-Alto-Adige,5.96,0,0.65,0,35.41,26.93,0.24,0,7.64,0.25,22.93,0
    ALP395_Trentino-Alto-Adige,4.20,0,0.07,0,38.17,29.09,0.83,0,5.00,0,22.64,0
    ALP414_Trentino-Alto-Adige,4.90,1.04,0.99,0,29.11,46.33,0.19,0,3.54,0,13.91,0
    ALP420_Trentino-Alto-Adige,5.76,0,0.48,0,39.10,28.16,0.12,0,6.97,0.13,19.29,0
    MURLO114_Tuscany,5.80,0,3.27,0,34.81,20.54,1.23,0,8.47,0.02,25.86,0
    VO59_Tuscany,7.52,0,0.82,0.28,35.01,21.98,0,0,9.50,0,24.88,0
    VO65_Tuscany,3.64,0,2.60,0.17,35.94,21.03,0,0.20,8.37,0,28.06,0
    VO109_Tuscany,3.75,0.22,2.79,0,32.67,21.45,0.79,0,10.67,0,27.56,0.09
    PG03_Umbria,5.94,0,2.12,0,32.67,17.12,0.56,0.20,11.11,0.02,30.25,0
    PG04_Umbria,6.34,0.25,2.53,0,30.64,20.66,0,0,9.10,0,30.47,0
    PG06_Umbria,8.95,0.13,1.08,0.52,30.94,17.60,0.02,0,8.80,0,31.89,0.06
    PG07_Umbria,7.81,0.34,3.48,0,32.31,17.63,0,0,10.47,0,27.96,0
    PG08_Umbria,5.00,0,2.37,0.43,35.24,21.61,0.48,0,7.69,0.03,27.15,0
    PG11_Umbria,7.93,0.01,2.36,0,33.05,19.77,0,0,8.56,0,28.32,0
    PG12_Umbria,8.62,0.02,1.77,0.07,34.90,20.05,0,0,7.63,0.04,26.90,0
    PG15_Umbria,7.94,0,2.72,0,32.52,16.83,0.67,0,10.33,0,28.99,0
    ALP022_Veneto,6.59,0,0.49,0,36.53,27.87,0,0,7.34,0,21.18,0
    ALP040_Veneto,5.15,0,1.04,0,41.60,25.12,0,0,3.85,0,23.24,0
    Alp100_Veneto,4.58,0.41,0.87,0.93,39.09,28.70,0,0,7.01,0.28,18.13,0
    ALP116_Veneto,5.45,0.19,2.34,0,36.99,24.61,0,0,7.69,0,22.73,0
    ALP209_Veneto,4.85,0,2.14,0,34.32,25.27,0,0,7.89,0,25.49,0.04
    ALP249_Veneto,5.45,0,2.23,0,35.92,27.84,0.14,0,5.44,0,22.98,0
    ALP250_Veneto,4.19,0.15,0.96,0.11,37.49,30.40,0.47,0,6.61,0.02,19.60,0
    ALP273_Veneto,4.14,0.12,0.71,0,35.42,29.00,0.35,0,7.02,0,23.07,0.16
    ALP322_Veneto,3.54,0,1.12,0,35.56,30.22,0.15,0,5.64,0,23.77,0
    ALP378_Veneto,5.59,0.04,0.53,0,35.23,29.58,0.40,0,4.93,0,23.71,0
    Alp401_Veneto,5.76,0,0.27,0.72,39.59,27.28,0,0,5.84,0,20.49,0.04
    KF1800751_Veneto,4.56,0,0.81,0,38.52,26.88,0,0.05,7.07,0,22.11,0
    KF1800772_Veneto,5.25,0,1.04,0,38.57,25.21,0.67,0,5.09,0,24.17,0
    KF1803105_Veneto,4.62,0,1.32,0.04,37.25,29.44,0,0.07,5.73,0,21.53,0
    KF1803109_Veneto,4.97,0.48,2.18,0,36.60,25.47,0,0,8.09,0,22.22,0
    KF1803151_Veneto,7.23,0,0,1.06,36.73,29.47,0.05,0,6.47,0,18.99,0
    Hats off to you, this is excellent!

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    Distance to: Jovialis
    1.85132385 PG26_Molise
    2.16529444 Alp140_Abruzzo
    2.71775643 Alp090_Abruzzo
    2.73558038 Alp616_Abruzzo
    2.89611809 cera1_Apulia
    2.91856129 cera2_Apulia
    3.19426048 PG06_Umbria
    3.32980480 PG27_Molise
    3.34511584 cera8_Apulia
    3.38212951 NOR28_Lazio
    3.39328749 MarABY030D_Marche
    3.47597468 MarACO100D_Marche
    3.49479613 Pu45_Apulia
    3.70070264 Alp503_Abruzzo
    3.77326119 ALP161_Abruzzo
    3.80215728 MarACY030D_Marche
    3.80621860 cera9_Apulia
    3.86023315 NaN212CR_Campania
    3.92572286 ALP583_Apulia
    3.93819756 NaN238DM_Campania
    4.19687979 PG24_Basilicata
    4.30936190 PG21_Basilicata
    4.37315675 Alp380_Abruzzo
    4.45463803 ALP379_Apulia
    4.48544312 MarABP050D_Marche

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    2 members found this post helpful.
    Nice to see some legitimate modern Italian samples (Albanians too). Now there's no question of authenticity.

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    In which part of Liguria does ALP099 hail from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuvanè View Post
    Mine: I suppose that since there are no samples from Emilia and Romagna, the results are a little more unusual and work with more atypical averages and combos

    Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    1.76278189 ALP209_Veneto
    4.04056927 PG08_Umbria
    4.21613567 MarABU050D_Marche
    4.24811723 VO109_Tuscany
    4.25477379 VO59_Tuscany
    4.43745423 ALP099_Liguria
    4.59314707 MarACW030D_Marche
    4.67183048 MURLO114_Tuscany
    4.75082098 ALP200_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    4.76308723 ALP116_Veneto
    4.77274554 KF1803109_Veneto
    4.89257601 ALP288_Lombrardy
    4.91722483 MarADG030D_Marche
    5.07163682 VO65_Tuscany
    5.16462002 AL12_Albanian
    5.25430300 MarACV100D_Marche
    5.30606257 AL9_Albanian
    5.67941018 MarABG010D_Marche
    6.07443825 ALP114_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    6.11112919 ALP273_Veneto
    6.22093241 ALP249_Veneto
    6.38220965 PG11_Umbria
    6.38515466 PG12_Umbria
    6.53988532 AL17_Albanian
    6.74417526 MarABQ080D_Marche

    Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    Distance: 0.9056% / 0.90556359 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    73.0 ALP209_Veneto
    19.7 VO109_Tuscany
    7.3 MarACV100D_Marche


    Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    Distance: 0.5258% / 0.52581609 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    43.4 VO109_Tuscany
    23.3 ALP209_Veneto
    21.2 ALP200_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    7.8 KF2700922_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    4.3 MarACV100D_Marche



    Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    Distance: 0.0662% / 0.06618802
    25.9 PG28_Lazio
    18.9 ALP259_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    9.6 ALP435_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    9.1 NaN207MM_Campania
    8.9 GS34_Apulia
    6.0 KF1803109_Veneto
    4.5 ALP354_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    4.3 ALP414_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    3.2 AL29_Albanian
    2.1 KF1803129_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    2.0 ALP273_Veneto
    2.0 Pu3_Apulia
    1.9 AL9_Albanian
    1.3 ALP209_Veneto
    0.3 ALP322_Veneto

    Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    0.47108631 40.40% KF2700922_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 59.60% PG28_Lazio
    0.59213139 33.80% ALP435_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 66.20% PG28_Lazio
    0.65966318 36.40% ALP596_Calabria + 63.60% ALP250_Veneto
    0.67380289 37.40% NaN46TC_Campania + 62.60% KF1803129_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    0.67740110 35.00% ALP346_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 65.00% VO109_Tuscany
    0.68469318 39.40% GS34_Apulia + 60.60% KF1803105_Veneto
    0.69320302 32.60% NaN46TC_Campania + 67.40% KF1800761_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    0.78136987 36.80% NaN212CR_Campania + 63.20% KF1800761_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    0.78498697 37.80% PG20_Basilicata + 62.20% ALP250_Veneto
    0.78746037 39.80% ALP205_Abruzzo + 60.20% ALP250_Veneto
    0.79843771 34.40% NaN43TC_Campania + 65.60% KF1800761_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    0.81315349 39.80% ALP093_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 60.20% PG28_Lazio
    0.83685052 39.60% AL29_Albanian + 60.40% KF1803109_Veneto
    0.84935993 41.20% ALP379_Apulia + 58.80% ALP250_Veneto
    0.85596013 47.20% ALP200_Trentino-Alto-Adige + 52.80% VO109_Tuscany
    0.87220888 28.40% ALP093_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 71.60% VO109_Tuscany
    0.87293066 56.40% KF1800761_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 43.60% MarACO100D_Marche
    0.87404590 34.00% NaN77FAM_Campania + 66.00% ALP250_Veneto
    0.87530950 37.60% GS47_Apulia + 62.40% ALP250_Veneto
    0.88563538 51.80% MarABG010D_Marche + 48.20% ALP273_Veneto
    0.88596822 32.00% KF2700960_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 68.00% VO109_Tuscany
    0.90730136 51.20% KF1803129_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 48.80% MarACO100D_Marche
    0.90939374 78.80% PG28_Lazio + 21.20% ALP414_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.91331678 43.60% GS34_Apulia + 56.40% ALP250_Veneto
    0.91634044 42.20% KF1803129_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia + 57.80% MarABQ080D_Marche
    Maybe it "is" the fact that there's no Emilia sample, but likewise for me it really doesn't work.

    Distance to: Angela
    4.05684607 BGD31_Lombrardy
    4.75154712 ALP114_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    4.91595362 BGD301_Lombrardy
    6.39150217 VO65_Tuscany
    6.66355761 PG08_Umbria
    7.04687165 KF1800772_Veneto
    7.17949859 ALP040_Veneto
    7.29915064 MURLO114_Tuscany
    7.54232060 BGD28_Lombrardy
    7.71702015 PG12_Umbria
    7.79937818 BGD103_Lombrardy
    7.89701209 ALP099_Liguria
    8.23714756 ALP116_Veneto
    8.45288117 MarACW030D_Marche
    8.65162990 VO59_Tuscany
    8.78784957 MarABI020D_Marche
    8.89166464 ALP288_Lombrardy
    9.09716439 MarADC050D_Marche
    9.18601110 PG28_Lazio
    9.22564361 AL12_Albanian
    9.24457679 MarABU050D_Marche
    9.33160758 KF1803109_Veneto
    9.34260135 PG11_Umbria
    9.43356772 ALP209_Veneto
    9.55391019 KF1800751_Veneto

    Trentino Alto-Adige has NEVER come up for me, nor should it.

    It's born out by the fact that the admixture is a terrible fit.

    Are we sure there isn't an Emilia sample? Every other set had one, yes? Is this the one where Davidski never provided the data for it?




    Target: Angela
    Distance: 290.1789% / 2.90178942
    37.8 BGD301_Lombrardy
    23.2 ALP040_Veneto
    19.6 BGD31_Lombrardy
    19.4 NaN195ST_Campania


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  24. #824
    Regular Member Salento's Avatar
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    2 members found this post helpful.
    @Angela - the samples are raveane_aneli_montinaro, and there's no Emilia.

    conversion_popname:
    Albanian Albania
    ITC-ABR_G Abruzzo
    ITC-LAZ_G Lazio
    ITC-MAR_G Marche
    ITC-TSI_G Tuscany
    ITC-UMB_G Umbria
    ITN-FRI_G Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    ITN-LIG_G Liguria
    ITN-LOM_G Lombrardy
    ITN-TRE_G Trentino-Alto-Adige
    ITN-VDA_G Aosta-Valley
    ITN-VEN_G Veneto
    ITS-BAS_G Basilicata
    ITS-CAL_G Calabria
    ITS-CAM_G Campania
    ITS-MOL_G Molise
    ITS-PUG_G Apulia

    sample_names:
    Albanian AL9
    Albanian AL12
    Albanian AL17
    Albanian AL29
    Albanian AL82
    Albanian AL98
    ITN-VEN_G ALP022
    ITN-VEN_G ALP040
    ITN-TRE_G ALP070
    ITN-TRE_G ALP071
    ITN-FRI_G ALP081
    ITC-ABR_G Alp090
    ITN-FRI_G ALP093
    ITN-LIG_G ALP099
    ITN-VEN_G Alp100
    ITN-TRE_G ALP114
    ITN-VEN_G ALP116
    ITC-ABR_G Alp140
    ITC-ABR_G ALP161
    ITC-ABR_G Alp162
    ITN-FRI_G ALP188
    ITN-TRE_G ALP200
    ITC-ABR_G ALP205
    ITN-VEN_G ALP209
    ITN-FRI_G ALP220
    ITN-VDA_G ALP225
    ITN-VDA_G ALP227
    ITN-FRI_G ALP233
    ITN-FRI_G ALP235
    ITN-VEN_G ALP249
    ITN-VEN_G ALP250
    ITN-TRE_G ALP259
    ITN-VEN_G ALP273
    ITN-FRI_G ALP280
    ITN-LOM_G ALP288
    ITN-VEN_G ALP322
    ITN-FRI_G ALP346
    ITN-FRI_G ALP354
    ITN-VEN_G ALP378
    ITS-PUG_G ALP379
    ITC-ABR_G Alp380
    ITN-TRE_G ALP395
    ITN-VEN_G Alp401
    ITN-TRE_G ALP414
    ITN-TRE_G ALP420
    ITN-FRI_G ALP435
    ITC-ABR_G Alp503
    ITN-FRI_G ALP506
    ITS-CAL_G ALP582
    ITS-PUG_G ALP583
    ITS-CAL_G ALP596
    ITC-ABR_G Alp616
    ITN-LOM_G BGD28
    ITN-LOM_G BGD31
    ITN-LOM_G BGD103
    ITN-LOM_G BGD301
    ITS-PUG_G cera1
    ITS-PUG_G cera2
    ITS-PUG_G cera8
    ITS-PUG_G cera9
    ITS-PUG_G GS32
    ITS-PUG_G GS34
    ITS-PUG_G GS47
    ITN-VEN_G KF1800751
    ITN-FRI_G KF1800761
    ITN-VEN_G KF1800772
    ITN-VEN_G KF1803105
    ITN-VEN_G KF1803109
    ITN-FRI_G KF1803129
    ITN-VEN_G KF1803151
    ITN-FRI_G KF2700922
    ITN-FRI_G KF2700960
    ITC-MAR_G MarABG010D
    ITC-MAR_G MarABI020D
    ITC-MAR_G MarABN020D
    ITC-MAR_G MarABP050D
    ITC-MAR_G MarABQ080D
    ITC-MAR_G MarABU050D
    ITC-MAR_G MarABY030D
    ITC-MAR_G MarACM040D
    ITC-MAR_G MarACO060D
    ITC-MAR_G MarACO100D
    ITC-MAR_G MarACV100D
    ITC-MAR_G MarACW030D
    ITC-MAR_G MarACW080D
    ITC-MAR_G MarACY030D
    ITC-MAR_G MarADC050D
    ITC-MAR_G MarADG030D
    ITC-TSI_G MURLO114
    ITS-CAM_G NaN43TC
    ITS-CAM_G NaN46TC
    ITS-CAM_G NaN58AC
    ITS-CAM_G NaN65DFG
    ITS-CAM_G NaN77FAM
    ITS-CAM_G NaN119AMR
    ITS-CAM_G NaN128LA
    ITS-CAM_G NaN195ST
    ITS-CAM_G NaN207MM
    ITS-CAM_G NaN212CR
    ITS-CAM_G NaN238DM
    ITS-CAM_G NaN275IS
    ITS-CAM_G NaN289RM
    ITS-CAM_G NaN293SF
    ITC-LAZ_G NOR24
    ITC-LAZ_G NOR28
    ITC-UMB_G PG03
    ITC-UMB_G PG04
    ITC-UMB_G PG05
    ITC-UMB_G PG06
    ITC-UMB_G PG07
    ITC-UMB_G PG08
    ITC-UMB_G PG11
    ITC-UMB_G PG12
    ITC-UMB_G PG15
    ITS-BAS_G PG16
    ITS-BAS_G PG17
    ITS-BAS_G PG18
    ITS-BAS_G PG19
    ITS-BAS_G PG20
    ITS-BAS_G PG21
    ITS-BAS_G PG22
    ITS-BAS_G PG24
    ITS-BAS_G PG25
    ITS-MOL_G PG26
    ITS-MOL_G PG27
    ITC-LAZ_G PG28
    ITC-LAZ_G PG30
    ITS-PUG_G Pu2
    ITS-PUG_G Pu3
    ITS-PUG_G Pu7
    ITS-PUG_G Pu8
    ITS-PUG_G Pu45
    ITC-TSI_G VO59
    ITC-TSI_G VO65
    ITC-TSI_G VO109

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    2 members found this post helpful.
    With the new samples


    Distance to: Stefano
    2.58623278 BGD31_Lombrardy
    2.66323112 KF1800772_Veneto
    2.78793831 ALP114_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    3.39605654 BGD301_Lombrardy
    3.55707745 BGD28_Lombrardy
    3.72235141 BGD103_Lombrardy




    These are the regional averages, for a reference


    Italian_Abruzzo,7.59,0.03,3.23,0.04,29.12,16.1,0,0 .08,10.91,0.32,32.6,0
    Italian_Aosta_Valley,5.82,0.06,1.62,0.14,40.65,29. 99,0.25,0.05,4.3,0.03,16.98,0.1
    Italian_Apulia,7.38,0.32,2.81,0.34,26.2,17.19,0.27 ,0.27,11.31,0.41,33.36,0.15
    Italian_Basilicata,8.9,0,3.92,0.1,27.08,14.41,0.67 ,0.62,11.23,0.05,32.98,0.04
    Italian_Calabria,7,0.13,4.18,0.08,27,11.44,0.26,0. 6,13.52,0.22,35.45,0.1
    Italian_Campania,7.07,0.09,2.82,0.09,28.91,13.73,0 .1,0.33,12.32,0.02,34.34,0.1
    Italian_Emilia,6.13,0,1.15,0.18,37.61,22.76,0.14,0 .11,7.4,0.25,24.22,0.06
    Italian_Friuli_VG,5.44,0.28,1.17,0.01,34.92,29.32, 0.08,0,7.03,0,21.72,0.02
    Italian_Jew,5.91,0.27,5.61,0.28,26.04,8.53,0.36,1. 02,16.51,0.14,35.34,0
    Italian_Lazio,6.73,0,2.67,0.05,31.7,19.82,0.26,0.0 7,9.79,0.17,28.75,0
    Italian_Liguria,5.1,0.05,2.01,0.09,37.89,23.23,0.2 5,0.05,7.89,0.05,23.39,0
    Italian_Lombardy,4.75,0.12,1.12,0.04,39.63,25.08,0 .17,0.01,6.41,0.03,22.62,0.03
    Italian_Marche,6.42,0.08,2.38,0.05,32.91,18.72,0.2 9,0.27,9.80,0,29.042,0.03
    Italian_Molise,6.89,0.1,2.32,0,29.31,15.22,0.03,0. 11,12.03,0.10,33.84,0.02
    Italian_Piedmont,5.92,0.13,1.73,0.09,37.82,26.02,0 .04,0.04,6.73,0.02,21.37,0.1
    Italian_Romagna,6.08,0,1.87,0.13,34.66,20.98,0.1,0 ,8.99,0,27.19,0
    Italian_Sicily,7.31,0.48,4.59,0.10,27.22,13.45,0.2 5,0.65,12.1,0.05,33.16,0.64
    Italian_Trentino,4.79,0.22,0.73,0.04,38.71,29.79,0 ,0,5.47,0.02,20.22,0
    Italian_Tuscany,6.12,0.05,1.21,0.14,36.89,21.81,0. 16,0.06,8.21,0,25.36,0
    Italian_Umbria,5.96,0.10,1.99,0.19,33.10,20.43,0.1 7,0.09,9.25,0.15,28.46,0.06
    Italian_Veneto,5.44,0.04,1.43,0.18,36.93,27.16,0.0 6,0,5.73,0.15,22.83,0.03


    Angela the BGD31_Lombrardy sample is closer to liguria and the ALP114_Trentino-Alto-Adige to Emilia, hence the similarity.


    Distance to: BGD31_Lombrardy
    3.70737104 Italian_Liguria
    3.91035804 Italian_Lombardy
    3.95045567 Italian_Emilia
    4.73982067 Italian_Tuscany
    6.07599375 Italian_Piedmont




    Distance to: ALP114_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    2.16497113 Italian_Emilia
    2.17901354 Italian_Tuscany
    2.61774712 Italian_Liguria
    4.58607675 Italian_Lombardy
    4.93049693 Italian_Romagna
    5.97426983 Italian_Piedmont






    Stuvanè, the ALP209_Veneto is really close to tuscany, liguria and emilia and the PG08_Umbria to Romagna.




    Distance to: ALP209_Veneto
    4.60722259 Italian_Tuscany
    4.63417738 Italian_Liguria
    4.66076174 Italian_Emilia
    4.79977083 Italian_Veneto
    4.92280408 Italian_Romagna


    Distance to: PG08_Umbria
    2.01905919 Italian_Romagna
    3.00507903 Italian_Tuscany
    3.37305500 Italian_Umbria
    4.31461470 Italian_Emilia






    Individual have a variation from their regional averages.

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