Angela
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@Angela But Etruscans were very sophisticated / advanced people and had considerable influence on Romans. I mean from their perspective you can understand why would they want Italians to have more Arab ancestry, so that they could call them non-European/white etc. But why would these Nord-Eastern supremacists would like Etruscans to be Near Eastern? Isn't Etruscans being closer to the steppe better for their ideology? Then in their mind they can claim Romans' successes too.
On Razib Khan, he used to write on Unz along with Jared Taylor etc. I think he is Republican too. I find it a little weird, i don't think most republicans would have positive views about South Asians, even though they are the richest/most educated group in US. Maybe he thinks deeper than me, i don't know.
The point is that these people don't care and have never cared about the sophistication and achievements of certain ancient civilizations. Shouldn't it have been obvious to anyone with two brain cells who managed to graduate even from just middle school that the Near East was "civilized" long before any "European" civilization? Where did farming start, or animal husbandry, or real cities, or metallurgy, or writing and on and on?
They don't care. All that matters is that these people to their minds are the "other", dark foreigners whom they can't, to this day, admit form part of their heritage too. Has Polako ever talked about the ANF in Poles? He can't even admit that the "Caucasus" half of the Yamnaya, and which is also present in Corded Ware, is Near Eastern in origin. The fact that these people might have gone onto the steppe in the Eneolithic instead of the Bronze Age is supposed to be all that matters, not their genetic make-up. He wants everyone to forget or ignore that the difference between the "CHG" and Iran Neolithic/Chalcolithic of which there is more in Italians and some Balkanites is laughably small. He's just pathetic.
These people made a fetish not of literate, sophisticated cultures, but of hunter-gatherers living off fish and half raw meat while living in yurts. Or, they envisioned themselves as blonde, wild, he-men, raiding on horseback, killing "inferior" dark males and stealing their women. That's the kind of crap that they used to openly say. I have some beautiful examples from Polako talking about blonde cow-boys of the steppe, an anachronism if I ever saw one, and others getting misty eyed about the great old days when they roamed the land hunting and fishing and all that new-fangled "civilization" was far away, or almost weeping when the saw the "blondes" of Central Asia.
When advanced civilizations are on European soil they have indeed tried to "claim" them. That's what's behind all the old "the ancient Greeks and Romans were Nordic people" nonsense. That's why there are thousands, maybe tens of thousands of idiotic posts on the internet about how "Nordic" they looked, how blonde and blue eyed they were. Meanwhile, even Central European looking ancient Greeks and Romans are by no means the norm, nor even, by a long shot, the majority.
With all the murals we have of the Etruscans they couldn't claim that. Plus, there was the Herodotus story. So, that narrative just became a convenient way to support their exaggerated ideas about Italian genetic history.
This is what I mean:
Trust me, if the murals showed blonde people, they would have called Herodotus a quack.
What they ignored, of course, but now suddenly seem to have discovered is that some of the Etruscans did seem to have lighter hair. They also never gave credence to the well-known fact that artistic representations are not always reliable in terms of the phenotype of the people of the locale. A lot of those artists were Greek, there was a fad for Greek art, and the Etruscans wanted to associate themselves with the advanced civilizations of the east.
Never expect consistency from people with an agenda. Instead of following the money, you have to follow the agenda.
I assure you that if it turns out that the Etruscans, but especially the Etruscan elite, were much more "northern" than thought, these people will suddenly discover what a "cool" culture they had, how superior they were, etc.
As for the "Republican" thing, that has absolutely nothing to do with the interpretation of genetics. Khan used to be very libertarian. Libertarianism has absolutely nothing to do with racism. I have my own libertarian leanings to a degree, and I haven't voted Democrat for a very, very, long time, and I absolutely am not a racist of any kind. You've been listening to too much "leftist-progressive" propaganda where they are trying to brainwash everyone into equating conservatism or even just being moderate, which is basically what I am, with racism and fascism.
There is no difference, you know, in terms of human rights abuses, between communism and fascism. They're just too sides of the same coin.