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Yep, I was talking about the Calabri of Apulia not the modern territory known as Calabria. Several Italian tribes seem to have had identical or very similar… not sure if it applies, … it can get confusing:
… the name Calabria was originally given to the Adriatic coast of the Salento peninsula in modern Apulia.
In the late first century BC this name came to extend to the entirety of the Salento, when the Roman emperor Augustus divided Italy into regions.
The whole region of Apulia received the name Regio II Apulia et Calabria.
By this time modern Calabria was still known as Bruttium …
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calabria#Etymology
Huld dates the loans from "Makedonian" Greek to the fifth century.
The loan "angari" [corvee: forced labour exacted in lieu of taxes, unpaid labour owed by a vassal to his feudal lord] is especially interesting.
Were Proto-Albanians at some point vassals of Macedonians?
Excuse me, what?s your contribution to this topic? Who asked you about random historical facts on Messapians and Daunians?your map is at the time of the end of the The Peloponnesian War (431–404 BC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_dialects
you see the Doric spartans coming out of Taranto ............losing battles to the messapics
Apulia was settled by Daunians, Peucetians and Messapics from 1000BC ...................see the recent paper ......................they had a closed society only starting to open up after commemcing their own pottery circa 400BC ..........they where even closed to their Samnite neighbours,
Plus, Albanian is more connected to Western Vulgar Latin than Eastern, making the Dinaric Alps rather than the lowland Dardania/Moesia as a urheimat, the latter being highly Latinized as indicated by enough evidence including the Roman officials/emperors, the proximity to Vlachs in Dardania/Moesia, and it�s modern dialects lack of variations.
Excuse me, what�s your contribution to this topic? Who asked you about random historical facts on Messapians and Daunians?
You're not knowledgeable neither in Albanian nor languages/linguistics.
If we want to read random Wikipedia history pages we can do that ourselves.
In "The Albanian autochthony hypothesis from the perspective of linguistics", Matzinger argues:
-Proto-Albanians migrated to Albania ~300-900 AD
-North Albania has older Albanian presence than South
-Albanian ethnogenesis is result of Christian Albanian pastoral communities coming into confrontation with non-Christian Slavs
-The area they migrated from are the late antiquity provinces of Dardania, Moesia, Dacia Mediterranea, Dacia Ripensis
Albanian Y-DNA does suggest a late antiquity bottleneck within this 300-900AD period, interestingly enough.
Because the Latin words common to only Romanian and Albanian are significantly fewer in number than those that are common to only Albanian and Western Romance, Mihaescu argues that the Albanian language evolved in a region with much greater contact with Western Romance regions than with Romanian-speaking regions, and located this region in present-day Albania, Kosovo and Western Macedonia, spanning east to Bitola and Pristina.Albanian is not more connected to Western Vulgar Latin than Eastern. It is almost entirely of the Eastern variety with a few strains of the western, this is one of the main reasons for this argument. How can you be so wrong and so moronically confident about it I don't understand.
Likewise you still don't even understand what you are arguing about Scodra. The only "autist" is you. You are chimping out like a child.
Buzuku's dialect is spoken nowhere today, this is just total idiotic nonsense. No Albanian even from north west regions, says "ëndiglonj" today. Seriously go spam some other thread.
This is a reply from someone who?s always ridiculed and ignored in every single thread and avoided even by the Italians themselves because they?re embarrassed of your claims. You?re the Italian version of Yetos the Greek who spams threads with unrelated myths and stories like a parrot and nobody even bothers to discuss with you. Do us a favour and go to the Italian language topic, a language which you don?t even speak.This is a reply from someone who has not read posts and is beaten in his theories of the albanian language
Oh, and the Doric Greek was specifically the mostly unattested Makedonian but not Epirotic, Aetolian, or Phocis dialect. Very convenient theories from the guy (Matzinger) that changes his mind every couple of years.
Because the Latin words common to only Romanian and Albanian are significantly fewer in number than those that are common to only Albanian and Western Romance, Mihaescu argues that the Albanian language evolved in a region with much greater contact with Western Romance regions than with Romanian-speaking regions, and located this region in present-day Albania, Kosovo and Western Macedonia, spanning east to Bitola and Pristina.
There you go, non-Albanian speaking Ottoman.
300-900 AD is the Albanian migration period he says. What about 2nd and 1st century BC Latin words? How can Dardanians have them when they were subdued 200 years later after the South Illyrians and Epirotes, then following with the Illyrii proprie dicti, and so on.
It�s the Illyrii proprie dicti (North Albania, Montenegro) and Epirotes (especially Chaonians) that received these early Latin as well as Doric Greek influences. But for some autistic conspiracy theory reason with 0 texts and 0 evidence they passed these words as a second hand market to the Proto-Albanians in Dardania.
Chams said ndiglo, and I personally (together with other North West Albanians) say ndig�jo, with the lj becoming j which is the natural evolution of Albanian.
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