Here below these maggots again accuse Illyria of being the sock puppet of enter_tain:
Yeah, keep polluting these threads with sock puppet accounts like Illyria and co. dear self-proclaimed "Aryan".
Congrats Hawk, you were right this guy is indeed behind puppet accounts like "Illyria" and many others.
Also accused Excine of being the sock of Bruzmi. Apparently I am also the sock of enter_tain despite me and him have many opposing views. So who is making the most ruckus ? This mount123 dude is some anti-Albanian troll, one can clearly see this by this dudes posts, everytime someone mentions Albanians and J2b2-L283 this dude starts chimping out and starts throwing insults. Yet claims I need to seek help for making accounts on a forum I couldn't give much rats ass about. I am not the one with an identity crisis. So who needs to seek help here ? Same dude who claimed all Illyrians were J2b2-L283 but this is not what we are seeing in Iron Age Albania in Kukes in Glasinac Mati. And I expect more Glasinac Mati samples in Kosovo, Central Albania etc.
As for E-V13, allow me to quote from a book that claims plenty of Vlachs were assimilated into the Albanian, South Slavic and Serbian ethnos:
''The first of these populations to exist in Kosovo, the Vlachs, has now disappeared as a distinct group: its members have either become Serbs or moved away. Possibly this is not the first time the Vlachs of Kosovo have exited from history; the ones who were there in the nineteenth century seem to have consisted entirely of recent immigrants from further south, and there may have been no continuity between them and the Vlachs who had preceded them in the late medieval period.It was argued in Chapter 2 that Kosovo and its surrounding upland areas may have been the crucible in which the Vlach and Romanian peoples were originally formed. Nomadic or semi-nomadic Vlachs spread southwards into northern Greece from the tenth century onwards; others stayed longer in contact with Albanian-speakers and spread out northwards and eastwards, crossing the Danube into Romania in the twelfth century. Many Vlachs remained, however, in the area of Kosovo, Montenegro and Hercegovina. As we have seen, special provisions were made for pastoral Vlachs in the law code of Stefan Dusan, and Vlachs played a key role as packhorse-leaders in the trade of medieval Serbia and Ragusa. The presence of Vlachs in Kosovo is attested to in several place-names, such as Vlasko Groblje ("Vlach grave') in the Cicavica (Alb.: “icavica) range of central Kosovo; the folk traditions of many northern Albanian clans also recalled that there had been Vlachs in the mountains before the coming of the Turks. When the Ottomans compiled detailed tax-registers in the late fifteenth century, they recorded large numbers of Vlach households in Kosovo: in 1488/9 there were 481 in Prizren, 870 in Prishtina and 1,008 in Pec, and two years later another register also referred to a special tax-district for Vlachs near Vucitern''
''In the early Ottoman period the Vlachs retained the special tax status which they had enjoyed under the Serbs: pastoral Vlachs would pay one sheep and one lamb per household on St George's Day each year. They were also used as military auxiliaries, and in Kosovo, as an extension of that role, some of them were used to guard the mines. 3 During the first two Ottoman centuries, however, the Vlachs simply fade out of the records in Kosovo. We know that large numbers of them in Hercegovina, northern Serbia and north-western Bosnia were gradually Slavicized, thanks mainly to the cultural influence of the Serbian Orthodox Church, so it seems reasonable to suppose that this is what happened to most of them in Kosovo. 4 But the Vlachs have always been a very adaptable people, capable of assimilating to any local language or culture: there are a few references to Islamicized Vlachs in the early Ottoman registers for Kosovo, and in Albania many Muslim Albanian families would later preserve traditions of Vlach origins.''
''More generally, it seems that a wide swathe of Vlach- populated country extended originally from the mountains south of Prizren, through the Debar area and all the way down the eastern side of Albania: while Vlachs retained their language and identity in the southern part of this strip (in the area to the south-west of Lake Ohrid), the ones further north turned either into Slav-speakers (the Mijaci, north of Debar, and perhaps the Gora villagers too) or into Albanian-speakers (in the Debar area). 6 One rather unlikely skill developed by Vlachs in this region was the craft of stone-masonry - unlikely, that is, given their pastoral-nomadic traditions. Nevertheless, there were Vlach villages whose men specialized in masonry, and travelled far and wide to build houses, bridges and aqueducts. In the Ottoman period these crafts were also practised by Christian Albanians from eastern and central Albania: above all, Debar, Berat and Gjirokastra. All these areas had Vlach populations; whether the stone-building skills passed originally from Albanians to Vlachs or vice-versa is not clear, but it is possible that many of the Albanians who plied these trades were themselves Albanianized Vlachs.''
''At the lower end of this swathe of Vlach-inhabited territory, to the south of Lake Ohrid, a town developed in the seventeenth century which became, for a while, the most important Vlach centre in the Balkans: Moschopolis (Alb.: Voskopoja). By the early eighteenth century this flourishing town may have had 20,000 inhabitants (popular tradition would later credit it with as many as 12,000 houses, implying a much larger population); it also had a famous school and (from 1731) a printing-press. Both Vlach and Greek were spoken there; Vlach trading-houses in Moschopolis had branches in Italy, Austria and Hungary, and most of the 'Greek' merchant community in Vienna consisted in fact of Moschopolitan Vlachs. 8 All this came to an end, however, in the late eighteenth century, when bands of local Albanian Muslims (encouraged, it seems, by the Ottoman authorities in a wave of anti-Orthodox feeling during the Russian-Ottoman war of 1768-74) repeatedly pillaged and burned the town. The inhabitants fled to many other towns in Greece, Albania and Macedonia; some went to join their merchant relatives in Austria or Hungary (where a church near Budapest has frescoes by a Moschopolitan painter); and one large group moved to Prizren. 9No doubt there had been occasional influxes of Vlachs into Kosovo before this. Vlach traders would have come to the big annual fairs at Prizren and Prishtina, and pastoral Vlachs from northern Macedonia might also have brought their flocks into the south-eastern corner of Kosovo; a few Macedonian Vlachs had settled in the southern town of Ferizaj. 10 The popular word for a 'Vlach' among the Prizren Albanians was 'Gog', which means 'stone-mason': this too suggests a tradition of contact with the Vlachs of the Debar region. But it was the arrival of the refugees from Moschopolis that created a distinctive Vlach population, which seems to have attracted other Vlach migrants in the early nineteenth century from northern Greece and Macedonia, and which would retain its identity for much of the century. A few settled in villages near Prizren, but most led an urban life: by the 1830s there were roughly 2,000 Vlachs, most of them in Prizren, but some in Gjakova and Pec." In Prizren the Vlachs settled in the Serb part of the town, where they created a 'Gog quarter'''
- Kosovo: A Short History
Is it really hard to accept your E-V13 ancestors were most likely not Albanians ? Explain why E-V13 is widespread across the Balkans from these Vlachs ?
