mount123
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Tribal names under Roman rule.
Basically east of Prishtina is a Thracian sphere. Dreaming of E-V13 in Nish, south Serbia or Macedonia, you're basically conceding to a Daco-Thracian origin without saying it outright. And between these two main spheres(Illyrian and Thracian) is a third linguistic group, the R1b-Z1203 IE group that's neither Thracian or Illyrian. The Dardanian substrate and the Paeonians.
That is what most linguists argue about the origin of Albanian. They don't argue it is Illyrian or Thracian descended. As I have repeated to some stubborn people who try to apply their modern ethnic identity to aDNA records, the Illyrian case is clear cut: Proto-Illyrian Cetina/Dinaric is what gave rise to Classical Illyrians, and these are a desert for E1b-V13 and an el dorado for J2b-L283. The Balkan sphere of R1b-Z2103+ extending from the northern part to the southern part of the central Balkans and manifesting in those Paeonian and alike results is very telling.
What we can say about Illyrian is that many linguists that have been specializing in deciphering this scarcely transmitted language either argue for a centum based/centum-like language or it doesn't fit a clear position in the mainstream Centum-Satem classification system. We have an abundance of samples from this area and the auDNA and parental DNA is only partially reflected in modern Albanians, specifically certain regions.