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E-V13 Thracian samples

Q1a_351:I20182,0.125205,0.144205,0.003017,-0.001292,0.00677,0,-0.00376,-0.006923,-0.011249,0.001093,0.002761,0.005695,-0.012636,-0.003165,0.000679,-0.005967,0.005998,0.00114,-0.004777,0.004377,-0.001373,0.010881,0.008011,0.003735,-0.003233
E-V13_361:I20185,0.126344,0.158423,0.008674,-0.053295,0.040315,-0.034582,0.003995,-0.000231,0.005318,0.049204,0.004547,0.012889,-0.015015,-0.005367,-0.028366,-0.010342,0.013821,0.004307,0.010936,-0.01038,-0.009109,0.002349,0,0.000361,0.000239
E-V13_359:I20183,0.120652,0.160454,0.010559,-0.041344,0.030775,-0.02259,0.00282,-0.003,0.017794,0.047017,0.003085,0.013488,-0.008771,-0.004954,-0.029587,0.005171,0.024903,0.003674,0.008673,-0.001,-0.004866,-0.00371,0.000739,0.005784,-0.011017
R1a_362:I20186,0.122929,0.155376,0.007542,-0.059755,0.031698,-0.025937,0.0047,-0.005077,0.009408,0.049204,-0.001624,0.009292,-0.020069,0.007432,-0.028637,-0.016706,-0.001043,0.000633,0.01433,-0.010505,-0.009733,0.001855,-0.005669,0.003976,-0.002515
E-V13_358:I20181,0.119514,0.157407,0.007165,-0.039083,0.028621,-0.023985,-0.003995,-0.003923,0.014726,0.04319,0.002923,0.008692,-0.0278,0.003165,-0.016422,0.003315,0.032074,0.008108,0.018603,-0.004252,-0.00836,-0.000742,-0.010106,0.002289,-0.016885
E-V13_357:I20180,0.119514,0.167562,0.009051,-0.064923,0.03693,-0.022311,0.002115,-0.006,0.009204,0.047199,0.003248,0.004646,-0.013082,0.004542,-0.021444,-0.018695,-0.004172,0.003801,0.005405,-0.011881,-0.011605,0.002473,-0.000863,-0.006266,-0.012334
E-V13_Rozovo_320:I19500,0.117238,0.1635,0.003394,-0.056202,0.022466,-0.012829,-0.002115,-0.002308,0.000409,0.03426,0.001137,0.009292,-0.018137,0.001927,-0.018865,-0.020286,0.00339,0.006714,0.012821,-0.008754,-0.004492,0.01051,-0.004683,0.005422,-0.010777
E-V13_Boyanovo_383:I18792,0.114961,0.180764,0.000754,-0.055556,0.023081,-0.02008,-0.00611,0.000462,0.017998,0.043737,-0.008607,0.001649,-0.024678,-0.017616,-0.021444,-0.00716,0.020079,-0.013302,-0.006913,-0.004752,-0.013227,0.016075,-0.006655,0.023377,-0.008981

Distance to:	E-V13_361:I20185
0.03360491	BGR_IA:I5769
0.03574293	HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19
0.03593462	HUN_Avar_Early_Tisza:I18185
0.03670608	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215
0.04012104	SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I11722
0.04051595	ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3876
0.04374654	BGR_Varna_C:ANI159-ANI181
0.04413847	SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I12097
0.04519244	GRC_Mycenaean:I9041
0.04532439	HUN_Avar_Early_Kövegy:I16750
0.04592780	ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3878
0.04594891	ITA_Sardinia_IA:I10366
0.04624949	DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_o:STR_300
0.04655755	MDA_Trypillia_Late:Gordinesti
0.04684505	HUN_IA_La_Tene_oEast:I18832
0.04704299	MDA_Trypillia_Lateocrovca3
0.04720720	GRC_Mycenaean:I9006
0.04802896	BGR_Late_C:I2430
0.04893819	ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b
0.04912342	ITA_Sicily_MBA:I3125
0.04976790	ITA_Sicily_EBA:I3124
0.04993500	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208
0.05033124	GRC_Peloponnese_N:I3920
0.05033515	Levant_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH068
0.05044236	BGR_C:I2519

Distance to:	E-V13_359:I20183
0.03507599	HUN_IA_La_Tene_oEast:I18832
0.03525871	MDA_Trypillia_Late:Gordinesti
0.03648193	HUN_Avar_Early_Kövegy:I16750
0.03649306	BGR_IA:I5769
0.03719979	HUN_Avar_Early_Tisza:I18185
0.04038396	SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I11722
0.04137300	ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b
0.04326141	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215
0.04438950	HUN_IA_La_Tene_o:I4998
0.04525258	ITA_Sardinia_IA:I10366
0.04550480	HRV_Pop_CAOP39
0.04664004	ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR111
0.04754596	Bell_Beaker_ITA:I1979
0.04770639	GRC_Mycenaean:I9041
0.04875212	MDA_Trypillia_Lateocrovca3
0.04911202	SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I12097
0.04930032	BGR_Late_C:I2430
0.05016616	HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ40
0.05025144	ITA_Sicily_MBA:I3125
0.05109560	ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3878
0.05174065	HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19
0.05202023	BGR_EBA:I2175
0.05208033	HUN_Sarmatian_Late_Transtisza:A181027
0.05213665	ITA_Sicily_EBA:UZZ057
0.05226789	GRC_Mycenaean:I9006

Distance to:	E-V13_358:I20181
0.03155147	HUN_Avar_Early_Kövegy:I16750
0.03778236	BGR_IA:I5769
0.04047889	HUN_IA_La_Tene_oEast:I18832
0.04051519	HUN_Avar_Early_Tisza:I18185
0.04511422	ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b
0.04547956	MDA_Trypillia_Late:Gordinesti
0.04655449	SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I11722
0.04793471	HUN_IA_La_Tene_o:I4998
0.04853368	GRC_Mycenaean:I9041
0.04861221	Bell_Beaker_ITA:I1979
0.04871085	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215
0.04953981	HRV_Pop_CAOP39
0.05175131	GRC_Mycenaean:I9006
0.05188689	ITA_Sardinia_IA:I10366
0.05190071	ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR118
0.05296590	HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ40
0.05308088	MDA_Trypillia_Lateocrovca3
0.05324612	ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR111
0.05387367	HUN_Sarmatian_Late_Transtisza:A181027
0.05414560	ITA_Tarquinia_EMA:TAQ022
0.05432969	ITA_Sicily_EBA:UZZ057
0.05452510	ITA_PoggioPelliccia_EMAOP001
0.05452824	ITA_Tivoli_Renaissance:RMPR973
0.05566459	ITA_Tivoli_Renaissance:RMPR969
0.05573292	ITA_Sicily_MBA:I3125

Distance to:	E-V13_357:I20180
0.03261722	HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19
0.03322936	ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3876
0.03681202	SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I12097
0.03791955	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215
0.03922435	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208
0.04000906	BGR_IA:I5769
0.04204101	HUN_Avar_Early_Tisza:I18185
0.04429207	SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I11722
0.04446381	ITA_Sardinia_MA:SNN003
0.04456282	ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR002
0.04504348	DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_o:STR_300
0.04573734	BGR_Middle_C:I2431
0.04644464	ITA_Sicily_LBA:I10372
0.04737405	ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR003
0.04745766	ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3878
0.04899026	ITA_Sicily_EBA:I11442
0.04918713	ITA_Sicily_MBA:I4109
0.04983490	ITA_Sardinia_IA:I10366
0.04997527	GRC_Manika_Helladic_EBA:Mik15
0.05087199	BGR_Varna_C:ANI159-ANI181
0.05099286	BGR_C:I2519
0.05101459	ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR113
0.05112575	GRC_Koufonisi_Cycladic_EBA:Kou01
0.05114416	BGR_Late_C:I2427
0.05122888	ITA_Sicily_EBA:I3124

Distance to:	E-V13_Rozovo_320:I19500
0.03287552	BGR_IA:I5769
0.03489804	HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19
0.03494769	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215
0.03798089	HUN_Avar_Early_Tisza:I18185
0.03915431	GRC_Mycenaean:I9041
0.04081525	DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_o:STR_300
0.04081858	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208
0.04091241	ITA_Chiusi_EMA:ETR013
0.04130007	ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR122
0.04154816	ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b
0.04218392	ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1287
0.04233448	SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I12097
0.04255991	SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I11722
0.04266448	ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR52
0.04274454	ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR121
0.04283924	ITA_Chiusi_EMA:ETR010
0.04349276	ITA_Tarquinia_Imperial:TAQ021
0.04364381	ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR836
0.04445463	ITA_Collegno_MA:CL121
0.04542595	Scythian_HUNA198
0.04634528	ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR137
0.04648783	ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1285
0.04655952	GRC_Mycenaean:I9033
0.04664921	ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR113
0.04680752	ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR49

Distance to:	E-V13_Boyanovo_383:I18792
0.04816825	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215
0.05173422	GRC_Mycenaean:I9041
0.05393385	BGR_IA:I5769
0.05410868	ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b
0.05431575	DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_o:STR_300
0.05771478	MDA_Trypillia_Late:Gordinesti
0.05833139	HUN_Avar_Early_Kövegy:I16750
0.05841322	HUN_Avar_Early_Tisza:I18185
0.05915055	ITA_Sardinia_IA:I10366
0.06255888	HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ40
0.06268334	GRC_Peloponnese_N:I3920
0.06270550	ITA_Tarquinia_Imperial:TAQ021
0.06287931	ITA_Daunian:SAL003
0.06309522	SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I11722
0.06319496	ITA_Sicily_EBA:UZZ057
0.06323592	ITA_Ordona_MA:ORD010
0.06327645	GRC_Minoan_Lassithi:I0071
0.06348842	ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3878
0.06382058	HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19
0.06407493	ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1283
0.06425422	BGR_Krepost_N:I0679_d
0.06433813	ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_Afr:TAQ007
0.06454312	ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR44
0.06508014	ITA_Chiusi_EMA:ETR013
0.06548661	ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia_Afr:VET008

 

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G25 Ancient Albania to CE samples scaled

1) I13833; ca. 1400-1800 CE; Barç, Korçë; J2a-Y18824 | I13833,0.086506,0.054839,-0.071653,0.020995,-0.023389,0.017012,0.002585,-0.003,0.007158,0.018953,0.002111,0.005695,0.004757 ,0.007294,-0.015744,-0.016043,0.002086,0.003927,0.007668,-0.001376,-0.006613,0.00643,0.005546,0.00012,0.00467

2) 2) I14688; ca. 600-400 BCE; Çinamak, Kukës; R1b-L51 | I14688,0.122929,0.161469,0.02489,-0.028101,0.028005,-0.015618,0.004935,0.001846,0.000409,0.019499,-0.000974,0.01139,-0.016799,-0.004266,-0.006786,-0.016441,-0.009518,0.004054,0.005028,-0.007253,-0.013601,0.009398,-0.005176,0.011086,-0.007065

3) I14690; ca. 1700-400 BCE; Çinamak, Kukës; R1b-CTS1450 | I14690,0.125205,0.149283,0.034318,-0.00646,0.029544,-0.005857,-0.001175,0.004846,-0.00225,0.019681,0.001461,0.002698,-0.020069,-0.006468,-0.003122,0.002121,0.001825,0.003167,0.002011,-0.002501,-0.007861,0.003462,0.005423,-0.004217,-0.005269

4) I16251; ca. 500-50 BCE; Çinamak, Kukës; R1b-M269 | I16251,0.124067,0.144205,0.018102,-0.019703,0.025851,-0.003347,0.002115,0.008077,0.000205,0.022233,-0.000974,0.005095,-0.017096,-0.017753,-0.013301,-0.003447,0.00665,-0.003294,0.010182,-0.013006,-0.000125,0.005441,-0.007148,-0.001687,-0.004431

5) I16253; ca.658-403 BCE; Çinamak, Kukës; J2b-Y21878 | I16253,0.130897,0.156392,0.034318,-0.010982,0.035083,-0.000279,0.002115,0.001846,0.0045,0.029158,0.00893 1,0.015436,-0.024083,-0.001927,-0.012893,0.000796,0.012647,0.008361,0.011816,-0.009505,-0.011355,-0.002349,-0.003944,0.008917,-0.007185

6) I16254; ca. 600-400 BCE; Çinamak, Kukës; J2b-Z622 | I16254,0.120652,0.157407,0.039598,-0.006137,0.031698,-0.011992,0.00705,-0.014076,-0.011044,0.033896,-0.002761,0.001349,-0.018137,-0.005918,-0.010586,-0.007558,0.021774,0.00076,-0.009176,-0.013256,-0.006988,-0.003215,-0.010846,0.01446,-0.008382

7) I17633; ca. 700-400 BCE; Çinamak, Kukës; J2b-Z593 | (Can’t find sample ID for G25?)

8) I14689; ca. 2663-2472 BCE; Çinamak, Kukës; R1b-M269 | I14689,0.121791,0.117801,0.034695,0.045866,-0.006463,0.014781,0.009165,-0.000923,-0.027815,-0.01549,-0.003085,0,-0.008771,0.005367,0.013572,-0.011933,-0.012778,0.004181,0.006536,-0.01013,-0.003743,-0.005935,0.017008,0.013014,-0.011496

9) I8471; ca. 1880-1695 BCE; Shkrel, Malësi e Madhe; J2b-Z597 | I8471,0.124067,0.144205,0.017725,0.000323,0.03416,-0.019801,0.00564,-0.012461,0.011658,0.034078,0.003248,0.004346,-0.005352,-0.022432,-0.008822,0.004243,0.026989,-0.007475,0.001885,0.006128,-0.000873,0.006059,0.007765,0.010724,0.008143

10) I13834; ca. 1402-1439 CE; Barç, Korçë; R1b-PF7563 | 14:I13834,0.12862,0.145221,0.01961,-0.01292,0.012925,-0.007809,-0.00141,-0.006461,0.002863,0.025878,-0.000325,0.006145,-0.022002,-0.004266,-0.012486,-0.009546,0.003912,0.003421,0.008045,-0.013131,-0.010107,0.006059,-0.004437,-0.000602,-0.004191

11) I14622; ca. 773-885 CE; Kënetë, Kukës; T-FGC47678 | 16:I14622,0.111547,0.15436,0.013953,-0.033592,0.016003,-0.001673,-0.001645,-0.001385,-0.001227,0.016037,0.006008,0.005845,-0.005946,0.00234,-0.013436,-0.013259,0.015255,-0.007728,0.009302,-0.012381,-0.015348,0.006801,-0.005669,-0.00735,-0.005389

12) I13838; ca. 5000-3500 BCE; Tren Cave, Korçë; G-P303 | I13838,0.122929,0.18178,0.004903,-0.101745,0.04647,-0.049364,-0.001645,-0.002308,0.032519,0.080366,0.012666,0.015286,-0.02438,0.004129,-0.039359,-0.021347,0.002999,-0.00114,0.00993,-0.016133,-0.005615,0.005812,-0.000616,-0.001807,-0.010538

13) I13840; ca. 4313-4051 BCE; Tren Cave, Korçë; G-F2572 | I13840,0.125205,0.187873,0.003394,-0.101745,0.044008,-0.04518,-0.00517,-0.003692,0.043155,0.081095,0.005034,0.007643,-0.022745,-0.002477,-0.04058,-0.013259,0.012647,0.00228,0.007793,-0.02076,-0.015348,0.006059,-0.005793,0.000482,-0.005269

14) I14686; ca. 1400-1700 CE; Bardhoc, Kukës; I2a-Y4884 | I14686,0.114961,0.152329,0.006034,-0.027778,0.024004,-0.007809,-0.00235,0.004846,-0.002863,0.022415,-0.001461,0.013938,-0.011744,0.005367,-0.028773,0.001591,0.013299,0.00114,0.009176,-0.007754,-0.009858,0.008161,0.000739,0.005061,-0.00467

15) I14687; ca. 1400-1700 CE; Bardhoc, Kukës; R1b-CTS1450 | I14687,0.119514,0.155376,0.002263,-0.020995,0.032006,-0.008925,-0.002585,0.007384,0.004704,0.0277,0.00682,0.003897 ,-0.013231,-0.002752,-0.021851,0.005701,0.027511,0.005448,-0.000251,-0.008504,-0.018467,0.008656,0.006162,0.004579,-0.019639

16) I15706; ca. 1527-1660 CE; Pazhok, Elbasan; R1a-Y81700 | 24:I15706,0.1161,0.144205,0.018856,-0.013566,0.022773,-0.006693,-0.003995,0.002769,0.004909,0.005832,0.003248,0.001 349,-0.001784,0.009634,-0.014794,-0.001458,-0.000652,0.00152,0.000377,-0.003001,-0.006239,-0.002968,0.001725,-0.004579,-0.001078

17) I15707; ca. 1472-1632 CE; Bardhoc, Kukës; J2b-Z631 | I15707,0.126344,0.153345,0.020365,-0.026809,0.028928,-0.01506,0.01081,-0.006,0.00225,0.025149,-0.001786,0.005995,-0.019029,-0.004817,-0.019001,-0.000265,0.028554,0.001267,0.011313,-0.004502,-0.017594,0.004699,0.001356,0.00241,0.001796

Formatted

I13833 1400-1800 CE Barç Korçë J2a-Y18824 ,0.086506,0.054839,-0.071653,0.020995,-0.023389,0.017012,0.002585,-0.003,0.007158,0.018953,0.002111,0.005695,0.004757 ,0.007294,-0.015744,-0.016043,0.002086,0.003927,0.007668,-0.001376,-0.006613,0.00643,0.005546,0.00012,0.00467

I14688600-400 BCE Çinamak Kukës R1b-L51 ,0.122929,0.161469,0.02489,-0.028101,0.028005,-0.015618,0.004935,0.001846,0.000409,0.019499,-0.000974,0.01139,-0.016799,-0.004266,-0.006786,-0.016441,-0.009518,0.004054,0.005028,-0.007253,-0.013601,0.009398,-0.005176,0.011086,-0.007065


I14690 1700-400 BCE Çinamak Kukës R1b-CTS1450 ,0.125205,0.149283,0.034318,-0.00646,0.029544,-0.005857,-0.001175,0.004846,-0.00225,0.019681,0.001461,0.002698,-0.020069,-0.006468,-0.003122,0.002121,0.001825,0.003167,0.002011,-0.002501,-0.007861,0.003462,0.005423,-0.004217,-0.005269


I16251 500-50 BCE Çinamak Kukës R1b-M269 ,0.124067,0.144205,0.018102,-0.019703,0.025851,-0.003347,0.002115,0.008077,0.000205,0.022233,-0.000974,0.005095,-0.017096,-0.017753,-0.013301,-0.003447,0.00665,-0.003294,0.010182,-0.013006,-0.000125,0.005441,-0.007148,-0.001687,-0.004431


I16253 658-403 BCE Çinamak Kukës J2b-Y21878,0.130897,0.156392,0.034318,-0.010982,0.035083,-0.000279,0.002115,0.001846,0.0045,0.029158,0.00893 1,0.015436,-0.024083,-0.001927,-0.012893,0.000796,0.012647,0.008361,0.011816,-0.009505,-0.011355,-0.002349,-0.003944,0.008917,-0.007185


I16254 600-400 BCE Çinamak Kukës J2b-Z622,0.120652,0.157407,0.039598,-0.006137,0.031698,-0.011992,0.00705,-0.014076,-0.011044,0.033896,-0.002761,0.001349,-0.018137,-0.005918,-0.010586,-0.007558,0.021774,0.00076,-0.009176,-0.013256,-0.006988,-0.003215,-0.010846,0.01446,-0.008382


I14689 2663-2472 BCE Çinamak Kukës R1b-M269,0.121791,0.117801,0.034695,0.045866,-0.006463,0.014781,0.009165,-0.000923,-0.027815,-0.01549,-0.003085,0,-0.008771,0.005367,0.013572,-0.011933,-0.012778,0.004181,0.006536,-0.01013,-0.003743,-0.005935,0.017008,0.013014,-0.011496


I8471 1880-1695 BCE Shkrel Malësi e Madhe J2b-Z59,0.124067,0.144205,0.017725,0.000323,0.03416,-0.019801,0.00564,-0.012461,0.011658,0.034078,0.003248,0.004346,-0.005352,-0.022432,-0.008822,0.004243,0.026989,-0.007475,0.001885,0.006128,-0.000873,0.006059,0.007765,0.010724,0.008143


I13834 1402-1439 CE Barç Korçë R1b-PF7563,0.12862,0.145221,0.01961,-0.01292,0.012925,-0.007809,-0.00141,-0.006461,0.002863,0.025878,-0.000325,0.006145,-0.022002,-0.004266,-0.012486,-0.009546,0.003912,0.003421,0.008045,-0.013131,-0.010107,0.006059,-0.004437,-0.000602,-0.004191


I14622 773-885 CE Kënetë Kukës T-FGC47678 ,0.111547,0.15436,0.013953,-0.033592,0.016003,-0.001673,-0.001645,-0.001385,-0.001227,0.016037,0.006008,0.005845,-0.005946,0.00234,-0.013436,-0.013259,0.015255,-0.007728,0.009302,-0.012381,-0.015348,0.006801,-0.005669,-0.00735,-0.005389


I13838 5000-3500 BCE Tren Cave Korçë G-P303,0.122929,0.18178,0.004903,-0.101745,0.04647,-0.049364,-0.001645,-0.002308,0.032519,0.080366,0.012666,0.015286,-0.02438,0.004129,-0.039359,-0.021347,0.002999,-0.00114,0.00993,-0.016133,-0.005615,0.005812,-0.000616,-0.001807,-0.010538


I13840 4313-4051 BCE Tren Cave Korçë G-F2572,0.125205,0.187873,0.003394,-0.101745,0.044008,-0.04518,-0.00517,-0.003692,0.043155,0.081095,0.005034,0.007643,-0.022745,-0.002477,-0.04058,-0.013259,0.012647,0.00228,0.007793,-0.02076,-0.015348,0.006059,-0.005793,0.000482,-0.005269


I14686 1400-1700 CE Bardhoc Kukës I2a-Y4884B,0.114961,0.152329,0.006034,-0.027778,0.024004,-0.007809,-0.00235,0.004846,-0.002863,0.022415,-0.001461,0.013938,-0.011744,0.005367,-0.028773,0.001591,0.013299,0.00114,0.009176,-0.007754,-0.009858,0.008161,0.000739,0.005061,-0.00467


I14687 1400-1700 CE Bardhoc Kukës R1b-CTS1450,0.119514,0.155376,0.002263,-0.020995,0.032006,-0.008925,-0.002585,0.007384,0.004704,0.0277,0.00682,0.003897 ,-0.013231,-0.002752,-0.021851,0.005701,0.027511,0.005448,-0.000251,-0.008504,-0.018467,0.008656,0.006162,0.004579,-0.019639


I15706 1527-1660 CE Pazhok Elbasan R1a-Y817004,0.1161,0.144205,0.018856,-0.013566,0.022773,-0.006693,-0.003995,0.002769,0.004909,0.005832,0.003248,0.001 349,-0.001784,0.009634,-0.014794,-0.001458,-0.000652,0.00152,0.000377,-0.003001,-0.006239,-0.002968,0.001725,-0.004579,-0.001078


I15707 1472-1632 CE Bardhoc Kukës J2b-Z631,0.126344,0.153345,0.020365,-0.026809,0.028928,-0.01506,0.01081,-0.006,0.00225,0.025149,-0.001786,0.005995,-0.019029,-0.004817,-0.019001,-0.000265,0.028554,0.001267,0.011313,-0.004502,-0.017594,0.004699,0.001356,0.00241,0.001796

Formatted.

Continuity looks pretty done and dusted boys.

 

[Archetype0ne]

Album:
https://imgur.com/a/UuBwCBE

 

[1337_]

It was kind of random. In the Bulgarian-Serbian border zone I was reading the histories of various villages. Some had founders, or early settlers with names like Leka, Kole, Joka (Gjoka?), Buzadzhi, Lale-Lalin. So I was simply googling to see if Leka is a common Bulgarian name and this info showed up.

I find it more interesting that a Bulgarian historian thinks there is Albanian toponyms from 10th-11th century between Plodiv and Sofia. I am sure that's not the case at present. Would be interesting to contact Hris and see what these historical toponyms are, were called.

Probably just Albanian migrations to Bulgaria and there was also a Arbanas village there

'Arbanas' : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbanasi_(Veliko_Tarnovo)

Gheg-Tosk split is much older than 10th-11th century. The dialect split is believed to be ancient going back to the period around 400-600 AD.

 

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I'll say this though: Greeks and Albanians are very different in origin (from Bronze Age). During the Iron Age, they started converging closer and closer, until in modern times they became almost indistinguishable.

But, Proto-Illyrians clearly have a very different origin than Proto-Greeks, so I don't understand this whole "Graeco-Albanian" thing.

 

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Where you retard, show it where. There is no edit you moron.

Seriously, can a mod ban this guy? He literally makes 0 good points and is just swearing at people.

 

[Johane Derite]

Leka (Paulician leader)


Leka (Lekas in Skylitzes Continuatus) was a Paulician leader in the 11th century Byzantine Balkans in the territory of contemporary Bulgaria.
He is mentioned in the History of Michael Attaleiates and in Skylitzes Continuatus partly based on information from Attaleiates. Lekas was a member of the Paulician Christian sect. He lived in Philippopolis (Plovdiv) and was married to a Pecheneg woman.^[1] The Pechenegs north of the Danube in the 11th century had been influenced by Paulician ideas. In alliance with them and the Paulician leader Dobromir (Dobromiros in Skylitzes Continuatus) he launched a revolt in the eastern Balkans in 1078-79 in an attempt to become an independent ruler. In the revolt he killed Michael, bishop of Serdica (Sofia). Dobromir expanded in the region of Mesembria (coastal Bulgaria).^[2] As the new Emperor Nikephoros III Botaneiates organized an army to send against them, they accepted the rule of the emperor and were given many gifts and privileges.
The mention of the Paulician Leka is the first mention of the Albanian name Leka and indicates that this individual may have been an Albanian.^[2] As such, it is the first reference of a medieval Albanian by name by the same author (Attaleiates) who mentions medieval Albanians for the first time in Byzantine literature. The attestation of a Paulician Albanian suggests that Paulicians had become popular among Albanian groups. Toponymy between Sofia and Plovdiv in the 10th and 11th centuries indicates that (Proto-)Albanian populations had migrated from their native lands to the eastern Balkans before the era of Leka.^[3] The next mention of the name Leka is three centuries later in the names of the brothers Leka (ancestor of Lekë Dukagjini) and Pal Dukagjini who held the city of Lezha.^[4]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leka_(Paulician_leader)#cite_note-FOOTNOTESaldzhiev2019668-3

https://czasopisma.uni.lodz.pl/sceranea/article/view/6744/6334




Hmmmmmmmmm
Hristo's conclusion is backward, because Albanian autochonous cannot be questioned, he thinks an early group of Albanians migrated to western Bulgaria.

One of the oldest documented instances of an Albanian name comes from the 11th century Paulician leader "Leka" (Λέκας) in Bulgaria.


Saldzhiev speculates that there may have been a proto-Albanian population in this mountainous region, referring also to the oikonym "Shtipon" that appears in a mountain village, and suggests Proto-Albanian mediation into Old Slavic.


He assumes that Proto-Albanians must have migrated to this region at some point, but what if there was no migration and there was simply a proto-Albanian substrate in this region?

 

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Albanians are descended from Native Illyrians and Dacian or Thracian newcomers.
A good chunk of R1b is also of East Balkanic origin.

How many of the Illyrian R1b's are Z2103?

The way Y-DNA works, is large populations carry a lot of different clades, until one becomes popular. There is no "East Balkanic R1b".

Yamna had M269, L51, and Z2103. In some populations L51 gets more popular, in some Z2103 more popular, and in some rare ones M269 basal. The popularity later on of clades, is by no means determinative of ancestry.

Look at Illyrians. Some are Z638. Some are not. They originally carried a bunch of clades. In the southern parts Z638 became more popular, in the north more basal clades. They all share a common origin though.

 

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One of the oldest documented instances of an Albanian name comes from the 11th century Paulician leader "Leka" (Λέκας) in Bulgaria.


Saldzhiev speculates that there may have been a proto-Albanian population in this mountainous region, referring also to the oikonym "Shtipon" that appears in a mountain village, and suggests Proto-Albanian mediation into Old Slavic.


He assumes that Proto-Albanians must have migrated to this region at some point, but what if there was no migration and there was simply a proto-Albanian substrate in this region?

This guy making up fake quotes that aren't in the book he's quoting again

 

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I wish there were some samples from the Albanoi in Illyria, but these are close enough geographically. The author's papers are outright admitting from the Middle Bronze Age, there has been no major shifts in DNA in Albanians (obviously some Roman Imperial/Slavic minor admixtures).

Given Messapic links, this paper showing Illyrian-Albanian continuity, Albanoi being outright Illyrian, anyone denying Illyrian-Albanian continuity at this point is just a brain dead troll. Let Hawk and co. make up fake theories, because he can't accept that EV-13 might have gone from 15% to 30% over thousands of years, when it happened in Greeks too. Greeks are "Thracians" too at this point.

 

[1337_]

Yeah, we probably came from the Albanoi or some related Illyrian tribe. Some of them probably lived in Dardania during Roman period after Roman-Illyrian wars together with Vlachs or from 900 AD and on wards during the Bulgarian Empire they spread East wards.

 

[Johane Derite]

One of the oldest documented instances of an Albanian name comes from the 11th century Paulician leader "Leka" (Λέκας) in Bulgaria.


Saldzhiev speculates that there may have been a proto-Albanian population in this mountainous region, referring also to the oikonym "Shtipon" that appears in a mountain village, and suggests Proto-Albanian mediation into Old Slavic.


He assumes that Proto-Albanians must have migrated to this region at some point, but what if there was no migration and there was simply a proto-Albanian substrate in this region?

The chronology that would be required for Albanian mediation of a toponym into Slavic (as is in the case of Shtip) necessitates that the proto-Albanian population had to have been there before the Slavic one, so this Shtipon mountain village in between Sofia and Plovdiv must have had a proto-Albanian population before the Slavs were there.

 

[1337_]

The name is also found in Romania of people with Albanian origin such as Leca of Catun who was a Vlach figure

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leka_(name)

I googled Stipon Mountain and found nothing. Could of been taken from somewhere else.

 

[torzio]

The name is also found in Romania of people with Albanian origin such as Leca of Catun who was a Vlach figure

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leka_(name)

I googled Stipon Mountain and found nothing. Could of been taken from somewhere else.

is he meaning Stipon....a fortress built by roman emperor Trajan in modern Bulgaria ?

 

[td120]

I guess that's what he was meaning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihtiman
...the town was called Stipon and Stipone (Стипон ; Стипоне) ,the name was changed during the Ottoman times.
The fortress in the so called Gate of Trajan/Βασιλική πύλη/ (16km SE) was named after the Roman military station , the Greeks called it Stenos , the Bulgarians - Shtipon . It has a very interesting form btw.

..ahem... Щипонь

Bryansk Oblast

Russia

242778

 

[PaleoRevenge]

The name is also found in Romania of people with Albanian origin such as Leca of Catun who was a Vlach figure

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leka_(name)

I googled Stipon Mountain and found nothing. Could of been taken from somewhere else.

From the wikiepedia page:

Few details exist about Leca's early life, beyond his belonging to the boyar aristocracy. He was an Albanian and it is known that he had at least one brother, Comis Toma of Pătroaia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leca_of_Cătun

 

[PaleoRevenge]

Quotes from various Bulgarian settlments near the Serbian border:

Kurban were made: On the Leather Cross - on Spasovday - the Leathers (Gala, Stamen, Jovan, Leka Radenkov) on the cross on grandfather Leka's property next to Lukarete on Ivanovday - the Likins on the cross on grandfather Leka's property next to the well in Rosulya on St. Troitsa – The Gaginites (Novko, Zarko) on the cross in the lukar on Petrovden – Cintsarete

https://bg-m-wikipedia-org.translat...tr_sl=bg&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

In a register from the middle of the 16th century , it is mentioned that the village of Barle had 21 households, three unmarried residents and three widows, and its income amounted to 2067 aktas . ^[2] In the Dzhelepkeshan register from 1576 , the village was entered as Berla , with two Dzhelepkeshans - Jure Stepan with 40 sheep and Petre Lalin with 30 sheep. ^[3] In the register of Voynushki fathers from 1606 , three fathers from Burle are mentioned - of Torne Petko, of Lale, son of Petko, and one blank. ^[4] .

https://bg-m-wikipedia-org.translat...tr_sl=bg&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

The church was built solely with the labor and assistance of the people of Gaber. Everyone has contributed to the good cause. Here are the names of some of them: grandfather Kole Gigov - traveled all over Bulgaria to collect aid; Mihail Manov, Alexi Radenkov and Arso Antov - mayors of the village; Milosh Gyorev and many other people from all families in the village and surrounding villages - helped with labor and money.

https://bg-m-wikipedia-org.translat...tr_sl=bg&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

The hamlet is formed by 14 smaller hamlets, the largest of which is "Borovitsa" (inhabited by the Rizovi (old-timers), Kole Hristovi (from the village of Lisets ), Velkovi (old-timers), Baba Nikolinini, Baba Altonini (and the two from the village of Rezhintsi ), Manguski, Kostadin Hristovi (from the village of Dukat ). The remaining hamlets are: "Abikushin dol" (from the Venkovi, Anastasovi and Bezhulski families-old settlers), " Trenchova mahala (Lenishte) ", "Ramnitsa" ( from one family from the village of Cerovitsa ), "Karadzina ornitsa" (family of Stoilkovi from the village of Lomnica ), "Yovkova" (by Orlova chuka peak), "Mishovitsa" (family of Baba Ilinkini and Tsekovtsi from Kamenitsa), "Panichartsi" (family of Niklintsi from the village of Bistrica), "Loza" (5 genera: Karadatsi from the village of Belut , Mitovtsi, Lazovi, Petrevtsi and Anjakertsi), "Lipitsa" (janachkovi and Gavazovi genera and one Gypsy genera ), "Blaguno" (Atanasovi (Gerovi) and Dyado Ilievi genera (both are old settlers), "Valyavitsi" (also Dyado Iliintsi) - old settlers, "Drenye" ​​(Dyado Atanasovi) - old settlers and "Sinov dol" (from the Dyado Iliintsi family).

https://bg-m-wikipedia-org.translat...tr_sl=bg&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

According to local legend, it was founded by four people - Marko Buzadzi, Mita Vuča, Joka Shỳkar and grandfather Vuko. As the soil is infertile, the traditional livelihood of the locals is construction. <sup>[2]

https://bg-m-wikipedia-org.translat...tr_sl=bg&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc</sup>

Kole Gigov, any relation to this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqc-JDYS54

 

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Лека/Леко (Leka,Leko) when in Bulgaria is usually diminutive from Alexi or Aleko.


Look yourself in the texts you quoted " Alexi Radenkov"---> "Leka Radenkov" , simple as that.


"-in" in the Bulgarian family names pertain to the village or the family the person stems from (for example Kole Mitrin can be Kole/Nikola of the Mitrevi family= Kole Mitrev...or Kole, son of Mitra (Dimitra), as sometimes the young widow's name would stick instead the father's. Same with Petre Lalin --->of Lalevi...or "the son of Lala". Both Lalyo(m.) and Lala(f.) are variants/diminutives of the Biblical name Lazar. Sometimes Lala can be a form of Zlata but that is rare).


There are several Gigov families and they probably stem from the Western Outlands and Macedonia, one of them is the author Nikola Gigov from


https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Вучи_дел

Now Belut is an interesting case...the others are plain no go.

 

[Johane Derite]

The most surprising thing I did not expect was this relative absence of Z2103 from the core j2b-l283 area, if this actually holds up to be the case then the ramifications are huge.

 

[Johane Derite]

It also seems to validate Matzinger's, Schumacher's, etc, arguments. They really do seem to have picked up on a valid linguistic signal with regard to East Alpine Block, Albanian and Illyrian non-congruence, etc.