mount123
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- Y-DNA haplogroup
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You have a big mouth Gashjan. Careful how you address people constantly.
R1b is not 35% in Western Macedonia, it's E-V13 instead (and R1b is like 18%, J2b2 is like ~14%) based on peer reviewed scientific paper from North Macedonia 2020, which is far more reliable study due to very good sampling strategy (which is extremely important).
Northern Albania is not >40% J2b2-L283, it's Malsia e Gjakovas and again nobody can guarantee us how did the sampling strategy went in the sense of it needs to go through several pipelines and one of them is peer reviewing the strategy used, something which they lack. Good for sampling subclades, but not truly reliable for indicating and reflecting percentage.
Yes and no, since papers from such countries usually have a very small sample size. But I agree based on tribal affiliation and the general parental DNA picture of Maqedoni I expect E1b-V13 to be the majority in many subregions. Let’s not forget R1b-M269 is a broad terminology we could do the same and just say "E1b-Z1919“ or "J2b" and the number would, based on samples from certain regions, increase. But it is important to make the difference between R1b-Z2103 and R1b-PF7562 for instance (they also add other haplogroups under that term).
Also, within a Qark or in this case Rajon (which they have chosen for their borders and statistics here) there is additively differences in percentages of parental lines going by Rrenjet/ Gjenetika data. In north West Shkodra around the Shkodra lake the J2b-L283 seems to increase further south it decreases. These are nuances that get lost with such broad designations of regions. Saying that generally J2b-L283 is more present in Northern Albanian and some other regions is generally a correct statement though.
Exactly. These projects are focused on tribal affiliations since that is what our nation consists of. Hence why oversampling of one or two specific subclans is not going to give a reliable picture of the whole local population. It definitely can be the case that many subclans are very prominent in one region, e. g. us Krasniqi, or Kelmendi in Peja etc. but I know for a matter of fact that Prizren does also have a lot of different subclans and family names so that and the fact that it is a very very small sample size the statistics are bound to be not inclusive.Southern Kosove is sparsely tested. Look at it closer. What you’re seeing there as Southern Kosove are mostly targeted Bytyci and Thaçi-Zogaj samples.
These projects are also very biased and most of the people that live here don’t really know about population genetics and DNA testing at all. It is mostly people from the Diaspora and it is most of the time them who organize testing for their relatives living in Shqipni, Kosovë etc. The overall majority of the population does not have this information flow hence never get tested or get the chance to think about getting tested.