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    Its the same women in both pictures. Who remembers what she did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tutkun Arnaut View Post
    Why a T- roll? Its a genuine question for an European person! Don't we call Mulato a mixed race person? What would you call a genuine white Brazilian? There is a significant portion of Brazilian population with full European ancestry. Koreans have lighter skin, why don't we call them white? If the skin shade was to determine the whiteness . As for the person that despise our country not to worry! That person could be a "white Brazilian". Canada has a sizeable portion of its population with Mexican ancestry who also call themselves white.
    Do not worry, my friend. If my ethnicity bother you so much, that is a genuine European , I've already made the change on my profile. One drop is enough. You're right. Now I'm black and no one else needs to discuss or fight for it. Now peace and harmony is sealed, hope so. See and check out the change in my profile.
    Greetings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Do not worry, my friend. If my ethnicity bother you so much, that is a genuine European , I've already made the change on my profile. One drop is enough. You're right. Now I'm black and no one else needs to discuss or fight for it. Now peace and harmony is sealed, hope so. See and check out the change in my profile.
    Greetings.
    Its not like it bothers me! It would not change my life for better if you wrote black or Indian. But for the sake of the truth you are a mixed race person! This forum is an international audience.So some of the views you share in Brasil about social construction are not shared in other places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Do not worry, my friend. If my ethnicity bother you so much, that is a genuine European , I've already made the change on my profile. One drop is enough. You're right. Now I'm black and no one else needs to discuss or fight for it. Now peace and harmony is sealed, hope so. See and check out the change in my profile.
    Greetings.
    You know who you are.
    How you define yourself, should not be based on the opinion of Tutkun Arnaut, or anyone else.

    I wouldn’t change anything, especially my Profile, just because Tutkun Arnaut has an opinion. lol

    I get the statement and hint of sarcasm on your response. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tutkun Arnaut View Post
    Its not like it bothers me! It would not change my life for better if you wrote black or Indian. But for the sake of the truth you are a mixed race person! This forum is an international audience.So some of the views you share in Brasil about social construction are not shared in other places.
    What absurdity. I wonder what little minority ancestry you carry?

    Plus, nobody deserves to be harassed over a matter of self-identity, especially when it comes to race, and especially not when it's such a courteous member.

    You're going to get the infractions you so richly deserve.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tutkun Arnaut View Post
    Its not like it bothers me! It would not change my life for better if you wrote black or Indian. But for the sake of the truth you are a mixed race person! This forum is an international audience.So some of the views you share in Brasil about social construction are not shared in other places.
    Dear Tutkun Arnaut.
    I could have simply omitted my SSA DNA. On all calculators when I use oracle 4, no SSA ethnicity is presented. See the following example. Moreover, due to my appearance, a man with fair skin, blue eyes, strong and 1.82 m high, is not even perceived as foreigner in the white majority countries that I have visited. In the USA, when I was in a typical roadside diner with an American friend, there was a large store with decoration objects for country houses. In the region there were many of these houses. The nice lady (white) showed me several objects so I could decorate my country house and was very embarrassed when I told her that I was not American and that I did not even live in the region or the USA. It was my choice to post my oracle results that only show the primary (European) and secondary (African) population, since I think it's cool a white man with African ancestry and I think many people would also find it cool, especially Brazilians. I could never imagine that adopting the concept of ethnicity adopted in Brazil would violate international norms of ethnic classification because this is an international website and the way Brazil treats the issue matters little because it is a regional classification , parochial, and that only concerns the Brazilians and not the world. If its so, I ask apologize for my error. It was not intentional.
    Duarte.

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Portuguese_Portugal @ 5.978168
    2 Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.992268
    3 Spanish_Spain @ 6.327335
    4 Spanish_Galicia @ 6.545066
    5 Spanish_Murcia @ 6.937581
    6 Spanish_Baleares @ 7.218249
    7 Spanish_Andalucia @ 7.809060
    8 Spanish_Cataluna @ 7.989942
    9 Provencal_Provence @ 8.465449
    10 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 8.579922
    11 Spanish_Valencia @ 8.809546
    12 Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha @ 10.260877
    13 Swiss_Switzerland @ 10.762058
    14 French_NorthwestFrance @ 10.872211
    15 French_EastFrance @ 10.886386
    16 Spanish_Canarias @ 10.958314
    17 French_France @ 10.973870
    18 Spanish_Aragon @ 11.407277
    19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 11.770754
    20 German_Germany @ 11.972765

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Portuguese_Portugal +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.882466


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Italian_Friul +25% Spanish_Canarias +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 4.722140


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Jew_Ashkenazi + Basque_Spain + German_NorthGermany + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.476932
    2 Jew_Ashkenazi + Basque_Spain + German_SouthGermany + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.532102
    3 Jew_Ashkenazi + Basque_Spain + Czech_Czechia + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.606090
    4 Jew_Ashkenazi + Basque_France + German_NorthGermany + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.641181
    5 Italian_Friul + Spanish_Canarias + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Swiss_Switzerland @ 4.645905
    6 French_SouthFrance + Spanish_Canarias + Swiss_Switzerland + Swiss_Switzerland @ 4.658790
    7 French_SouthFrance + Italian_Friul + Spanish_Canarias + Swiss_Switzerland @ 4.664810
    8 French_SouthFrance + Portuguese_Portugal + Portuguese_Portugal + Swiss_Switzerland @ 4.675999
    9 Spanish_Canarias + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Swiss_Switzerland + Swiss_Switzerland @ 4.677666
    10 Jew_Ashkenazi + Basque_France + German_SouthGermany + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.693038
    11 French_SouthFrance + Italian_Friul + Portuguese_Portugal + Portuguese_Portugal @ 4.697506
    12 Italian_Friul + Italian_Friul + Spanish_Canarias + Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 4.722140
    13 Jew_Ashkenazi + Austrian_Austria + Basque_Spain + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.735291
    14 Portuguese_Portugal + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Swiss_Switzerland @ 4.737254
    15 Italian_Friul + Portuguese_Portugal + Portuguese_Portugal + Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 4.741563
    16 Jew_Ashkenazi + Basque_Spain + Slovenian_Slovenia + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.753297
    17 Portuguese_Portugal + Portuguese_Portugal + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Swiss_Switzerland @ 4.754658
    18 Italian_NorthIitaly + Spanish_Canarias + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Swiss_Switzerland @ 4.754892
    19 French_SouthFrance + Italian_Friul + Italian_Friul + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.761105
    20 Jew_Ashkenazi + Basque_Spain + Dane_Denmark + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.764399

    Done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Dear Tutkun Arnaut.
    I could have simply omitted my SSA DNA. On all calculators when I use oracle 4, no SSA ethnicity is presented. See the following example. Moreover, due to my appearance, a man with fair skin, blue eyes, strong and 1.82 m high, is not even perceived as foreigner in the white majority countries that I have visited. In the USA, when I was in a typical roadside diner with an American friend, there was a large store with decoration objects for country houses. In the region there were many of these houses. The nice lady (white) showed me several objects so I could decorate my country house and was very embarrassed when I told her that I was not American and that I did not even live in the region or the USA. It was my choice to post my oracle results that only show the primary (European) and secondary (African) population, since I think it's cool a white man with African ancestry and I think many people would also find it cool, especially Brazilians. I could never imagine that adopting the concept of ethnicity adopted in Brazil would violate international norms of ethnic classification because this is an international website and the way Brazil treats the issue matters little because it is a regional classification , parochial, and that only concerns the Brazilians and not the world. If its so, I ask apologize for my error. It was not intentional.
    Duarte.

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Portuguese_Portugal @ 5.978168
    2 Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.992268
    3 Spanish_Spain @ 6.327335
    4 Spanish_Galicia @ 6.545066
    5 Spanish_Murcia @ 6.937581
    6 Spanish_Baleares @ 7.218249
    7 Spanish_Andalucia @ 7.809060
    8 Spanish_Cataluna @ 7.989942
    9 Provencal_Provence @ 8.465449
    10 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 8.579922
    11 Spanish_Valencia @ 8.809546
    12 Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha @ 10.260877
    13 Swiss_Switzerland @ 10.762058
    14 French_NorthwestFrance @ 10.872211
    15 French_EastFrance @ 10.886386
    16 Spanish_Canarias @ 10.958314
    17 French_France @ 10.973870
    18 Spanish_Aragon @ 11.407277
    19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 11.770754
    20 German_Germany @ 11.972765

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Portuguese_Portugal +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.882466


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Italian_Friul +25% Spanish_Canarias +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 4.722140


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Jew_Ashkenazi + Basque_Spain + German_NorthGermany + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.476932
    2 Jew_Ashkenazi + Basque_Spain + German_SouthGermany + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.532102
    3 Jew_Ashkenazi + Basque_Spain + Czech_Czechia + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.606090
    4 Jew_Ashkenazi + Basque_France + German_NorthGermany + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.641181
    5 Italian_Friul + Spanish_Canarias + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Swiss_Switzerland @ 4.645905
    6 French_SouthFrance + Spanish_Canarias + Swiss_Switzerland + Swiss_Switzerland @ 4.658790
    7 French_SouthFrance + Italian_Friul + Spanish_Canarias + Swiss_Switzerland @ 4.664810
    8 French_SouthFrance + Portuguese_Portugal + Portuguese_Portugal + Swiss_Switzerland @ 4.675999
    9 Spanish_Canarias + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Swiss_Switzerland + Swiss_Switzerland @ 4.677666
    10 Jew_Ashkenazi + Basque_France + German_SouthGermany + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.693038
    11 French_SouthFrance + Italian_Friul + Portuguese_Portugal + Portuguese_Portugal @ 4.697506
    12 Italian_Friul + Italian_Friul + Spanish_Canarias + Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 4.722140
    13 Jew_Ashkenazi + Austrian_Austria + Basque_Spain + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.735291
    14 Portuguese_Portugal + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Swiss_Switzerland @ 4.737254
    15 Italian_Friul + Portuguese_Portugal + Portuguese_Portugal + Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 4.741563
    16 Jew_Ashkenazi + Basque_Spain + Slovenian_Slovenia + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.753297
    17 Portuguese_Portugal + Portuguese_Portugal + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Swiss_Switzerland @ 4.754658
    18 Italian_NorthIitaly + Spanish_Canarias + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Swiss_Switzerland @ 4.754892
    19 French_SouthFrance + Italian_Friul + Italian_Friul + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.761105
    20 Jew_Ashkenazi + Basque_Spain + Dane_Denmark + Spanish_Canarias @ 4.764399

    Done.

    Those are not international norms. They're Tutkun norms. There's a massive difference.

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    Remund, I think you may be out of here in record time. Anyone want to take bets on how long he'll last?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Georgewalley View Post
    There was no dna testing in the past and many multi generational mulattoes passed as white in the US, based on the one drop rule at least 1/2 of all white Americans would be non white because it's highly unlikely someone don't have a single non Caucasian ancestor going back 400 years. The average Southern colonial have 1-2% SSA and even higher Amerindian often exceeding 3%. The reason why White North Americans are pred 95-100% European is because they received a continuous wave of migration that always refreshed the old population. Most white Americans in the Midwest, Coastal areas are of recent European origin.
    White people in the South most definitely have more Black Sub Saharan ancestry than Native American ancestry, since they were in closer contact with their slave population for a longer amount of time, while the Native American populations were genocided and ethnically cleansed from their ancestral homelands. Though White Southerners usually hid their black ancestry by claiming the common Cherokee Blood Myth, which when investigated usually turns out to be completely false.
    12% of Southerners have on average 1% SSA, While only 5% have .18 percent Native American. These White Southerners are the direct descendants of the very people who benefited from the genocide and removal of the Southeastern Native Nations from their ancestral homelands. Excuse me if I call bull on their mythical Cherokee Grand ma mas! If this were true they would still be affiliated with their recognised Cherokee Nations in NC or Oklahoma.

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    I don't know how many times people have to be told to stop spreading disinformation. George Walleys post is completely incorrect. The data is clear. The vast majority of white Americans, including those with colonial stock, and including those in the south, do not have any SSA or Indian ancestry, for that matter.


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    I know I am one of those people...my great-aunts tested with Ancestry and got 1% SSA, which had to be from their Virginia born father (their mother was a first generation American; father French Canadian and mother-my mitochondrial great-great-grandmother-from Ireland); I got 0.1% SSA in 23andMe, so my grandmother no doubt got fewer African genes in the descent from her father, which can be quite random with elements of ancestry of small percentages.

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    Data from nMonte3 Eurogenes K13 and K15 obtained at yourdnaportal.com:

    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post

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    afcorse he is white
    just because 3-4% sub sharan allells that doesn't make him to
    belong to other group rather than white .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    afcorse he is white
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    belong to other group rather than white .......
    Thanks by support KingJohn :)

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    nice results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian L View Post
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