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    Quote Originally Posted by Tutkun Arnaut View Post
    so where is Turkey drilling now? what is the view in Greece, how bad situation can get?
    have you hear the moto

    'Johny fear the monster,
    and the monster fear Johny,'

    monster roars to input fear to Johny,
    Johny roars to input fear to monster.

    where Turkey try to drill id about 3000 +2500 m deep
    only one of drilling ship can not do it,
    but it reach 3000 m,
    also cement detected,

    so game now is scratch or piss the tree, to mark your area,

    No One is going to attack the other
    All the Brave hyms are for inner consuption

    Even if Erdogan manage to drill so deep, and finds oil there, he can sell it only in Weatherford International, which is after observation and Depth control,
    (remember the Albanian case of 65 M $)
    Erdogan just want to impress and might sold to Qatar with Botac factory,


    Greece/Cyprus on the other hand, are afraid to attack Erdogan's drilling ships, and provocative acts inside Aegean sea
    cause that might cause an inner affair and bad-Face to NATO,,

    So EVERYDODY (in his country) has 'BIG MOUTH' for inner consuption, and provide himshelf as Hero to his country.

    but EVERYBODY AFFRAIDS AN ACCIDENTAL EVENT, which spark or activate a moving chain effect
    Last edited by Yetos; 27-06-19 at 01:12.
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    Η τουρκική NAVTEX
    TURNHOS N/W : 0943/19
    MEDITERRANEAN SEA
    NAVAL TRAINING, ON 04 SEP 19 FROM 1000Z TO 1500Z IN AREA BOUNDED BY;
    33 47.18 N – 028 47.17 E
    33 55.02 N – 028 54.63 E
    33 48.78 N – 029 04.05 E
    33 40.94 N – 028 56.59 E
    CAUTION ADVISED.

    H Ελληνική NAVTEX
    IRAKLEIO RADIO NAVWARN 468/19
    SOUTH EAST KRITIKO SEA.
    IERAPETRA SEA.
    FIRING EXERCISE.
    FROM 041000 UTC TO 041500 UTC SEP 19
    IN AREA BOUNDED BY:
    33-47,18N 028-47,17E
    33-55,02N 028-54,63E
    33-48,78N 029-04,05E
    33-40,94N 028-56,59E
    CAUTION ADVISED.
    CANCEL THIS MSG 041600 UTC SEP 19











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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post



    Η τουρκική NAVTEX
    TURNHOS N/W : 0943/19
    MEDITERRANEAN SEA
    NAVAL TRAINING, ON 04 SEP 19 FROM 1000Z TO 1500Z IN AREA BOUNDED BY;
    33 47.18 N – 028 47.17 E
    33 55.02 N – 028 54.63 E
    33 48.78 N – 029 04.05 E
    33 40.94 N – 028 56.59 E
    CAUTION ADVISED.

    H Ελληνική NAVTEX
    IRAKLEIO RADIO NAVWARN 468/19
    SOUTH EAST KRITIKO SEA.
    IERAPETRA SEA.
    FIRING EXERCISE.
    FROM 041000 UTC TO 041500 UTC SEP 19
    IN AREA BOUNDED BY:
    33-47,18N 028-47,17E
    33-55,02N 028-54,63E
    33-48,78N 029-04,05E
    33-40,94N 028-56,59E
    CAUTION ADVISED.
    CANCEL THIS MSG 041600 UTC SEP 19










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    Sail away from the Action, :) ...


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    It seems from the same path of East Med pipeline will also pass and other kinds of Energy, Like the electric one,

    EuroAsia and EuroAfrica interconductors are to pass same path, Uniting EU with Israel, and Egypt.

    https://euroasia-interconnector.com/

    https://www.euroafrica-interconnector.com/

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    You can see above before 1 year solutions and plans for the energy proposed and designed by EU countries, especially from Med countries, Greece Cyprus France and Italy

    most stayed plans, while other took place and start to build,

    Greece and cyprus promoted more and enter Saudi Arabia green energy project,
    the Last days huge solar panels park are to be built in Saudi Arabia, and Greece manage an agreement for tranfering green electro-power to Europe,
    the biggest LNG port infrastracture of EU are in Greece, and today are supporting with non Russian gas Greece Bulgaria and other balkan countries,
    while the new ones can support more.

    the mistake of Europe, to set her shelf engaged with Russian gas and oil, can be solved only by Med,
    It is time The North and North-East EU abbandon the policies of Mercel's economy minister Schauble,

    LNG pipelines from Greece reach Romania, and its not far for Hungary (Orban is nuts) and expand even to Talin.

    the only way for alternative non Russian (this include also Turkey) energy for Europe pass through Greece Italy and Spain, but Spain is secure,

    I am waiting Italy to get a political stabilization, away from Salvini policies (profits)
    and Germany change her mind to the old Schauble dogma.

    East med, and electirc connections with Asia and Africa, away from Russian and Turkish territories is clear a better solution for EU

    the solution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    You can see above before 1 year solutions and plans for the energy proposed and designed by EU countries, especially from Med countries, Greece Cyprus France and Italy

    most stayed plans, while other took place and start to build,

    Greece and cyprus promoted more and enter Saudi Arabia green energy project,
    the Last days huge solar panels park are to be built in Saudi Arabia, and Greece manage an agreement for tranfering green electro-power to Europe,
    the biggest LNG port infrastracture of EU are in Greece, and today are supporting with non Russian gas Greece Bulgaria and other balkan countries,
    while the new ones can support more.

    the mistake of Europe, to set her shelf engaged with Russian gas and oil, can be solved only by Med,
    It is time The North and North-East EU abbandon the policies of Mercel's economy minister Schauble,

    LNG pipelines from Greece reach Romania, and its not far for Hungary (Orban is nuts) and expand even to Talin.

    the only way for alternative non Russian (this include also Turkey) energy for Europe pass through Greece Italy and Spain, but Spain is secure,

    I am waiting Italy to get a political stabilization, away from Salvini policies (profits)
    and Germany change her mind to the old Schauble dogma.

    East med, and electirc connections with Asia and Africa, away from Russian and Turkish territories is clear a better solution for EU

    the solution
    I don't disagree with you and have long argued the same thing. I have stated some points regarding European Energy policy, NATO and Russia in the past. Whatever one thinks of Trump the person, and I am not fan of him, on many policy initiatives I agree with him. It is a documented fact that Trump ripped Merkel regarding her countries NATO spending and other member states to defend against Putin yet Merkel and some other EU beaurecrats were pushing for more integration with Russia for energy supplies. On that point he was and remains 100% correct.

    Energy pipelines from Southern Europe makes sense. Greece is now one of the most compliant NATO allies in terms of GDP spending on shared NATO defense, I think hitting > 3% of GDP. So energy pipelines connecting for LNG natural gas and direct pipelines from Middle East sources makes sense given Greece's commitment to NATO. Italy, a founding member of NATO has provided the USA with strategic Ports in Naples and air command and control bases in Sicily to support its NAVAL presence in the Mediterranean. So Italy as well can be linked up with LNG terminals and pipelines from the Middle east and Libya (North Africa as well). Similar to Greece, Italy is a stable NATO ally and the USA has a large presence there (I think Italy has the 3rd most USA personnel stationed there after the UK and Germany) which can secure those energy sources.

    Spain and Portugal is already connected to West African energy sources with the Maghreb_Euro Pipeline. Disputes between Algeria and Morocco have impacted some of the supply routes. That main pipeline has one main route into Western Sicily which runs up the Italian mainland all the way to NE Italy, another route runs straight to Sardinia linking back up in Central Italy with main route that started in Western Sicily and yet another route runs into Libya to access energy there and runs to South East Sicily near Gela and connects again with the main route in Sicily.

    The Maghreb_Euro route can be further developed. It would help those economies in North and West Africa. EU countries should can start treating those countries as economic partners. It is a win win for everyone. Europe breaks dependency on Russia and Putin. Those economies in North and West Africa are strengthened which could stabilize the political and economic situations in those regions.

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    ENI and Total declare a new found at Cyprus exclusive zone,
    field 6, 70 000 000 000 cubic meter of n atural gas and regenated,
    a good help for EU road to autonomy,
    infact I am only expecting from A nnalena from Germany, to change the minds of North,
    since the mania with cheap gas, and the scandals with Gazprom led North under Russian Hostage,

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