The Arrival of Steppe & Iranian Related Ancestry in Islands of West Mediterranean

I wonder if Eastern and Western Sicilians were exactly the same during the Bronze Age since Eastern Sicily lacked the Bell Beaker culture that Western Sicily had:
The Beaker was introduced in Sicily from Sardinia and spread mainly in the north-west and south-west of the island. In the northwest and in the Palermo kept almost intact its cultural and social characteristics, while in the south-west there was a strong integration with local cultures.[96] The only known single bell-shaped glass in eastern Sicily was found in Syracuse.[96]
Map_of_Italian_Bell_Beaker_sites.jpg
 
ihype02: Interesting question? It would be good to have both Bronze age data from both Western and Eastern Sicily to answer your question. I did a quick check using Eurogenes K15 as it had data split for Sicily_West and Sicily_East. Interestingly, the data for Eurogenes K13 no longer has the data in the format that K15 has suggesting that it has been removed from the data source at vahaduo_genetics. Again suggesting, I don't know that for a fact. The first estimate I did have only the K15 Italian samples and you can see my fits. Ok, not as good as the Dodecad. The 2nd run for me included Sicilian_Beaker_I4930's K15 coordinates that I estimated from GEDMATCH. It helps me get a better fit than the first estimation (which only included the K15 Italian samples). As for distances for modern populations in K15 relative to Sicilian Beaker I4930, closest to Sardinians consistent with what you stated in your post 241. Seems pretty much the same for Modern Sicilians. Doesn't mean that there were some minor differences in the Bronze Age, but I would think those would be due to Steppe ancestry reaching the Western Part of Sicily first as Sicilian_Beaker I4930 was pretty heave Early European Farmer (Neolithic) type ancestry I do believe.

Unfortunately, the Dodecad 12B does not have Data for Sicily split between West and East, it would have been nice to see that analysis.

Cheers, PT

Distance to:PalermoTrapani
4.53086085Italy_West_Sicily
5.18630890Italy_Campania
5.32183239Italy_Central_Sicily
5.72191402Italy_Apulia
6.13476161Italy_East_Sicily
6.75415428Italy_Calabria
6.77696835Italy_Abruzzo
8.20238380Italy_Lazio
8.46477997Italy_Marche
13.25799759Italy_Emiliaromagna
13.45117839Italy_Tuscany
16.03005926Italy_Liguria
19.04361048Italy_Lombardy
20.04850867Italy_Friuli
20.26026653Italy_Veneto
23.11418828Italy_Trentino
23.23004735Italy_Piedmont
28.21453172Italy_Aostavalley
32.84821152Sardinian

Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 2.0956% / 2.09563307 | ADC: 0.25x

75.0Italy_West_Sicily
18.8Italy_Lazio
6.2Sardinian

Distance to:PalermoTrapani
4.53086085Italy_West_Sicily
5.18630890Italy_Campania
5.32183239Italy_Central_Sicily
5.72191402Italy_Apulia
6.13476161Italy_East_Sicily
6.75415428Italy_Calabria
6.77696835Italy_Abruzzo
8.20238380Italy_Lazio
8.46477997Italy_Marche
13.25799759Italy_Emiliaromagna
13.45117839Italy_Tuscany
16.03005926Italy_Liguria
16.46679082Sicilian_Beaker_I4930
19.04361048Italy_Lombardy
20.04850867Italy_Friuli
20.26026653Italy_Veneto
23.11418828Italy_Trentino
23.23004735Italy_Piedmont
28.21453172Italy_Aostavalley
32.84821152Sardinian


Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 1.6189% / 1.61886253 | ADC: 0.25x

68.4Italy_West_Sicily
18.2Italy_Lazio
13.4Sicilian_Beaker_I4930


Distance to:Sicilian_Beaker_I4930
18.07634919Sardinian
18.14251085Italy_Lazio
18.32547134Italy_Marche
19.21994277Italy_Tuscany
19.69878423Italy_Emiliaromagna
20.00809836Italy_Campania
20.12783396Italy_West_Sicily
20.40018382Italy_Central_Sicily
20.46399032Italy_Apulia
20.70335239Italy_Liguria
20.80721269Italy_East_Sicily
21.47904793Italy_Abruzzo
21.62923022Italy_Calabria
22.48615352Italy_Lombardy
24.79213182Italy_Veneto
25.46879463Italy_Friuli
26.08204938Italy_Piedmont
27.25993947Italy_Trentino
31.07382822Italy_Aostavalley
 
Siculi are thought to be Late Bronze Age arrivals from Illyria. They could have been the same wave as Messapi. Maybe this LBA dispersal explains the E-V13 spread all over in Balkans and South Italy/Sicily.
 
Weren't the siculi italics?

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I wonder if Eastern and Western Sicilians were exactly the same during the Bronze Age since Eastern Sicily lacked the Bell Beaker culture that Western Sicily had:
The Beaker was introduced in Sicily from Sardinia and spread mainly in the north-west and south-west of the island. In the northwest and in the Palermo kept almost intact its cultural and social characteristics, while in the south-west there was a strong integration with local cultures.[96] The only known single bell-shaped glass in eastern Sicily was found in Syracuse.[96]
Map_of_Italian_Bell_Beaker_sites.jpg
If beakers from Sicily came from Sardinia then they were EEF with no steppe. The Iberian steppe admixed migration to Sicily is probably successive to beakers

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