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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Look at how the LACK of Data from Puglia and NO Abruzzo on the Map confuses “K36 genetic similarity”.
    two Max 80 in Rome & Greek Islands.
    Questionable Results imo.

    It looks like it is using Geographic Coordinates in relation with its INCOMPLETE Genetic Data, I should be in Puglia, located in the middle of the 2 Reds.



    on the mapping with K15 I end up in the middle of the Ocean. (I guess that’s where Atlantis used to be) lol
    Did you use 23andme V5 raw data?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Yes, I was thinking that too. Perhaps he was from here:

    At any rate, my similarity to him is 67%. My only higher one is that "Bavarian" woman from 500 AD. at 70%. Apparently, she was Southern European, but not of the particularly "eastern" variety. I don't know. Maybe northern Balkans like?
    I guess so.

    Mine are not that different from yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xri34 View Post
    Did you use 23andme V5 raw data?
    That was a combined data 23 included, without AncestryDNA.

    But with AncestryDna by itself I get the same results.

    The point is: Abruzzo is missing from the Map, and they need more Data from Puglia in most calculators.


    23 v5:




    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/34142-Tool-for-K36-your-similarities-rates-on-maps?p=571524&viewfull=1#post571524

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    This is my similarity map compared to the Ancient genome chart. Both using 23andme data V5


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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    I guess so.

    Mine are not that different from yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post




    We're quite close on a lot of them, the more "Neolithic" related ones, but you have higher scores on Yamnaya type, Northern, and Northwestern scores, which makes sense since I'm half Tuscan like. The Italian cline is consistent. :)

    What doesn't make sense to me is that you have higher scores in some things than either of your parents.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    We're quite close on a lot of them, the more "Neolithic" related ones, but you have higher scores on Yamnaya type, Northern, and Northwestern scores, which makes sense since I'm half Tuscan like. The Italian cline is consistent. :)

    What doesn't make sense to me is that you have higher scores in some things than either of your parents.
    Yep. Based on Geneplaza, I'd risk to say it's an effect mainly of our little extra WHG.

    Anyway I confess I couldn't look closer to my own results. Time is short, and the smartphone doesn't help. :) Can you please provide examples of these higher scores?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    By Salento:
    300 AD Germany (Roman Soldier) FN2

    GedMatch ID: Z061309

    I have compared the Z061309 kit with my own kit and I have obtained these results by choosing the calculators at random.

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vG-J2k6cE...TERFARMER.jpeg

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7qTV4NHZn...4566WORLD.jpeg

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Jdl5NigBv...EB4566k15.jpeg
    Carlos. This is my comparsion with the same calculators that you used, except Eurogenes K13 :)




    Last edited by Duarte; 05-04-19 at 15:16. Reason: spelling error correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Yep. Based on Geneplaza, I'd risk to say it's an effect mainly of our little extra WHG.

    Anyway I confess I couldn't look closer to my own results. Time is short, and the smartphone doesn't help. :) Can you please provide examples of these higher scores?
    Here's 5: You/Me

    Yamnaya Potapovka: 45/34
    Denmark Rise 61 : 53/41
    Poland: 54/40

    Gladiator 18: 56/49
    Sintashta Rise 392: 41/29

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfalp View Post
    It's funny how most of you ethnic Italians seems to have more match with Neolithic Europe, Mediterranean Metal Ages and Mediterranea in general. While i have huge matches with something Bell Beaker ancestry. But on the K36, my biggest score of like 18.something is Italy. How's that translating in real hypothesis?
    There are 2 results for Switzerland, What's your score in both?
    I get a difference of 17 points between the two:
    66 - 49


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    Very similar Duarte. We have found that relative who went to war and never heard from him and thousands of years later we have received news, he died in distant lands. Rest in peace.


    I have done this oldest check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    We're quite close on a lot of them, the more "Neolithic" related ones, but you have higher scores on Yamnaya type, Northern, and Northwestern scores, which makes sense since I'm half Tuscan like. The Italian cline is consistent. :)

    What doesn't make sense to me is that you have higher scores in some things than either of your parents.
    I think the differences that are between raw data are sometimes elevated because the kind of SNPs they're genotyping happens to be detected more frequently than others. Which is why I think there are the subtle differences when the SNP count is elevated. Though I've observed that they are very minor. Which means they do have the technology to read a lot out of a fewer targeted ones, and be highly accurate.

    Nevertheless, I sort of have a hobby goal to combine the raw data files from all of the compatible versions, for DNAkit studio. Because for the ancient samples, many of them on GEDMatch are about over 160k snps that are readable for Dodecad K12b. Mine is currently at 155K I recall. I only have two other tests I haven't done, that are compatible with DNAkit Studio, which should put me at that 160k mark. They're FTDNA, and MyHeritage, which I care very little for. But I'm interested in the raw data they can provide. I don't know much about FTDNA to have an opinion, but I do think MyHeritage is a terrible test. However, I'm not willing to spend money on that, so I'm just waiting till I get enough amazon gift card points, and look for a sale. I know the results will be show an extremely marginal change, but I think it would be fun to see nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    There are 2 results for Switzerland, What's your score in both?
    I get a difference of 17 points between the two:
    66 - 49

    The 66 is probably the Ticino, whose people are pretty much Lombards. The 49 is German speaking Switzerland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    Very similar Duarte. We have found that relative who went to war and never heard from him and thousands of years later we have received news, he died in distant lands. Rest in peace.
    Unless he decided to stay in Germany.
    “Some” say that Iberian Women are very possessive. lol


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    This my map and ancient genome chart using the combined raw data files.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    The 66 is probably the Ticino, whose people are pretty much Lombards. The 49 is German speaking Switzerland.
    Thanks Angela, (I’ve run out of votes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Unless he decided to stay in Germany.
    “Some” say that Iberian Women are very possessive. lol

    LOL. Yes, they may be very possessive. But I think that Lady Cheddary, an ancient and traditional English lady, was more possessive :))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Here's 5: You/Me
    Yamnaya Potapovka: 45/34
    Denmark Rise 61 : 53/41
    Poland: 54/40
    Gladiator 18: 56/49
    Sintashta Rise 392: 41/29
    I was referring to higher scores compared to my parents. I should have been more specific. My bad.
    Well, I think it's not odd to have higher -
    or lower - scores than both. It would be strange having more than the sum of both, yes, or having too few - depending on how much they get, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Unless he decided to stay in Germany.
    “Some” say that Iberian Women are very possessive. lol

    The iberians womans only?

    He stayed and then came back somehow. The Iberians take very badly live away from Iberia, the Galicians call it "morriña" Feel sadness or grief that is felt to be away from the homeland or the people or places you love, in this inter-millennial case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    There are 2 results for Switzerland, What's your score in both?
    I get a difference of 17 points between the two:
    66 - 49

    I dont know where your map is going from and how to implemente my results in them, can you help me?

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    Also there was another tool of 'Where your ancestors were living 10,000 years ago', and also 4,500 years ago, the last one was really neat, giving me 60% Indo-European invader, 25% Neolithic farmer, 10% Anatolian Copper Age migrant, and 5% Hunter-gatherer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey37 View Post
    Also there was another tool of 'Where your ancestors were living 10,000 years ago', and also 4,500 years ago, the last one was really neat, giving me 60% Indo-European invader, 25% Neolithic farmer, 10% Anatolian Copper Age migrant, and 5% Hunter-gatherer
    Wow, that much steppe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfalp View Post
    I dont know where your map is going from and how to implemente my results in them, can you help me?
    if you’re on GedMatch and uploaded your RawData:

    https://genesis.gedmatch.com/

    > Admixture (heritage) > Select > Eurogenes > input your Kit Ninber > Select Eurogenes K36 > continue

    copy your Results.

    Then go to:

    http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

    input your previous results and then press “Valider” .

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