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    Quote Originally Posted by hrvclv View Post

    I agree with Angela there seems to be a Lusitanian/Celtiberian - Celto-Ligurian connection.
    I thought I'd get more Roman, and more Basque.
    Equal distances from : Baleares, Normandy, Lombardy. - Madrid, Innsbruck, Antwerpen. - Aragon, Brittany, Friuli. - Romagna, England, Wales. - Rome, Copenhagen, Orkneys.
    Never felt so distinctly European!
    The map is nice, but far from being perfect. I don't believe you're closer to Greeks, Romanians or Scandinavians genetically than to Basques. Problem is that Basques, being somewhat drifted, get lots of Basque in K36, while most of others don't. It's like that AHG who gets very few West Med % at K36, translated in low similarity with Sardinians. As we know, the closest modern pop to Early Farmers are the Sardinians, according to both f-statistics and admixture. So the similarity map may be somewhat misleading in some cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    The map is nice, but far from being perfect. I don't believe you're closer to Greeks, Romanians or Scandinavians genetically than to Basques. Problem is that Basques, being somewhat drifted, get lots of Basque in K36, while most of others don't. It's like that AHG who gets very few West Med % at K36, translated in low similarity with Sardinians. As we know, the closest modern pop to Early Farmers are the Sardinians, according to both f-statistics and admixture. So the similarity map may be somewhat misleading in some cases.
    I agree. I think the results we get from those calculators begin to make some sense only after we have had a very close look at the spreadsheets, when available.

    I have tested with two labs, and uploaded my results to a number of sites. At the end of the day, it's hard to decide what clear conclusions to draw, because "nobody seems to agree with nobody". FTDNA and MyHeritage have me 60% British Isles (!), when 23andMe gives me 49% "French and German". My "Italian" ranges from 3% to 26% depending on the calculator.

    But, well... it's fun anyway!

    That said, to K36's credit, it has me right on spot geographically.
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    Almost when I had finished the map I realized that I had covered the numbers, I did what I could to remedy it, but I was not willing to start over, I prefer free art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hrvclv View Post
    I agree. I think the results we get from those calculators begin to make some sense only after we have had a very close look at the spreadsheets, when available.
    I have tested with two labs, and uploaded my results to a number of sites. At the end of the day, it's hard to decide what clear conclusions to draw, because "nobody seems to agree with nobody". FTDNA and MyHeritage have me 60% British Isles (!), when 23andMe gives me 49% "French and German". My "Italian" ranges from 3% to 26% depending on the calculator.
    But, well... it's fun anyway!
    That said, to K36's credit, it has me right on spot geographically.
    Particularly, I would trust more in 23andMe, but I guess others must add clues occasionally.

    Yeah, I agree. The map is fun, and it has its credit in accuracy, simplicity and representation. Indeed, high numbers tend to be more realistic, apparently, even so there must be some margin also here. Btw, they also put me correctly in North Italy. As I said before, it looks like an Oracle, a good one, and the big number of K36 clusters, not much informative in isolation, seems the "ace up its sleeve" .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    @All
    There is already a thread for the similarity map specifically. :)

    Here are mine (I should have chosen better colors; so please increase the brightness):
    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/showth...687#post510687

    @Duarte
    Thanks for the info.

    @Angela
    You're always welcome.

    You are right Sir, I think I have now :) the right results in regard of "similarity rate with different ancient genomes"





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    I think you can see an outline of the commonality I have with some people, partly because of NE1, which I get 65 on the similarity chart.




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    Does anyone know the gedmatch kit number of Bavaria STR 300?

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