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    I'm getting close to 0 but not quite yet:

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Armenian @ 0.265083
    2 Georgian @ 0.958684
    3 Assyrian @ 1.430235
    4 Bulgarian @ 1.657254
    5 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 1.844671
    6 Iranian_Jew @ 1.926663
    7 Sicilian @ 2.194615

    Au contraire with Gedrosia Ancient, I achieved it with a 4 population Oracle:

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    1 Albanian + French + Jew_Ashkenazi + Kumyk @ 0.000000
    2 Assyrian + Hungarian + Hungarian + Jew_Ashkenazi @ 0.000000
    3 Chechen + Druze + Estonian + Sardinian @ 0.000000
    4 Druze + Estonian + Lezgin + Sardinian @ 0.000000



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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    imo, I often get inaccurate Gedmatch results, but I didn’t realize until now that Gedrosia K3 makes me 100% Spanish @ 0.000000 - ... Astonishing!

    How is that possible ??? ... Somehow they got my DNA and mislabeled it? ... my twin? my clone? a coincidence?

    But I knew that the Gedrosia Anc.Eurasia K6 makes me 100% Italian_South!
    weird, maybe somehow my RAW-Data is being used without my permission, maybe!


    So, someone who is at 2 and 3 and 4 populations all Italian South is 100% Spanish?

    Um...maybe it's just a terrible calculator? :)


    @Snake: Ditto. :)

    So maybe my husband isn't Greek or Ashkenazi after all. :)


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    out of curiosity, ... other Southern Italians should run Gedrosia K3 too ...

    just wondering ...

    at Gedrosia K3 I get 100% Spanish (my clone @ 0.000000)

    at Gedrosia Ancient Eurasia K6 I get 100% Italian_South too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    out of curiosity, ... other Southern Italians should run Gedrosia K3 too ...

    just wondering ...
    Your wish is my command. :)

    My husband's:

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Spanish @ 0.867597
    2 Sicilian @ 0.941571
    3 Cypriot @ 0.974318
    4 Greek @ 1.928717
    5 Albanian @ 2.417001
    6 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.476734
    7 Armenian @ 2.511045
    8 Assyrian @ 2.558610
    9 Bulgarian @ 2.807593
    10 French @ 2.881117
    11 Iraqi_Jew @ 2.917643
    12 Sardinian @ 2.926925
    13 French_South @ 2.996346
    14 LBK_EN @ 3.089410
    15 Georgian @ 3.093184
    16 Bergamo @ 3.151976
    17 Croatian @ 3.196975
    18 English @ 3.223508
    19 Czech @ 3.278074
    20 Norwegian @ 3.370583

    Something is definitely wrong with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Your wish is my command. :)

    My husband's:

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Spanish @ 0.867597
    2 Sicilian @ 0.941571
    3 Cypriot @ 0.974318
    4 Greek @ 1.928717
    5 Albanian @ 2.417001
    6 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.476734
    7 Armenian @ 2.511045
    8 Assyrian @ 2.558610
    9 Bulgarian @ 2.807593
    10 French @ 2.881117
    11 Iraqi_Jew @ 2.917643
    12 Sardinian @ 2.926925
    13 French_South @ 2.996346
    14 LBK_EN @ 3.089410
    15 Georgian @ 3.093184
    16 Bergamo @ 3.151976
    17 Croatian @ 3.196975
    18 English @ 3.223508
    19 Czech @ 3.278074
    20 Norwegian @ 3.370583

    Something is definitely wrong with it.
    thanks, I ran out of votes for today, I’ll vote tomorrow :)

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    GEDmatch Gedrosia K3 - Mine - lol

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Saudi @ 2.030982
    2 Lebanese @ 2.152247
    3 Yemenite_Jew @ 2.579056
    4 Palestinian @ 3.894059
    5 Syrian @ 4.131645
    6 Jordanian @ 5.073280
    7 Iraqi_Jew @ 5.370116
    8 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 6.209241
    9 Iranian_Jew @ 6.367769
    10 Assyrian @ 6.586124
    11 Cypriot @ 6.987035
    12 Sicilian @ 7.033988
    13 Georgian_Jew @ 7.334672
    14 Armenian @ 7.690879
    15 Kurd_N @ 8.376530
    16 Kurd_C @ 8.657846
    17 Spanish @ 8.825925
    18 Georgian @ 8.916322
    19 Abkhasian @ 9.458773
    20 Bulgarian @ 9.628562

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% BedouinA +50% Greek @ 0.000000 (lol)
    2 50% Albanian +50% BedouinA @ 0.421350
    3 50% BedouinA +50% Spanish @ 0.517402
    4 50% BedouinA +50% French_South @ 0.560565
    5 50% BedouinA +50% French @ 0.570079
    6 50% BedouinA +50% English @ 0.633081
    7 50% BedouinA +50% Bergamo @ 0.643706
    8 50% BedouinA +50% Sardinian @ 0.827044
    9 50% BedouinA +50% LBK_EN @ 0.871586
    10 50% BedouinA +50% Croatian @ 0.900738
    11 50% BedouinA +50% Czech @ 0.952264
    12 50% Iraqi_Jew +50% Palestinian @ 0.959639
    13 50% BedouinA +50% Norwegian @ 1.092067
    14 50% BedouinA +50% Bulgarian @ 1.119382
    15 50% Iraqi_Jew +50% Yemenite_Jew @ 1.391651
    16 50% Ashkenazi_Jew +50% Palestinian @ 1.409241
    17 50% BedouinA +50% Sicilian @ 1.410521
    18 50% BedouinA +50% Cypriot @ 1.437648
    19 50% BedouinA +50% Hungarian @ 1.452466
    20 50% BedouinA +50% Stuttgart @ 1.480392


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% BedouinA +25% Bergamo +25% Greek @ 0.000000 (lol)

    Done.

    Elapsed time 0.0123 seconds.

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    All in all, in my opinion it makes sense ...


    @Palermo Trapani: the main share is Neolithic European (Sardinian-like: Oetzi and analogues) + a secondary "Armenian" share of the Bronze Age which almost certainly contains a robust CHG component, which arrived in southern Italy especially with the upheavals in the Mediterranean at the final Bronze Age (see Cline) and with the subsequent Greek colonization of the classical age


    @ Duarte: here too the main component is almost always attributable to the usual Neolithic substrate, but as it is right to expect for those who are from the Iberian stock, this and / or the secondary quota are enriched with more or less consistent percentages of WHG


    @ Gabriele: you have more or less my own "mixture", so the neolithic base + the secondary Steppe component (perhaps in your case a little more of CHG, given that Armenian sample appears)

    Here I tried to run some of the samples adopted by the PunDNAL oracle on G25 using some ancestral reference components






    @ Salento/Angela/Duarte: Gedrosia K3 is a calculator that could make sense only for some alien or for those who are a little allergic to human geography. In 3.000 years they will still ask about its actual purpose, but in practice it serves just to distinguish (badly) Africans, from Europeans, from Asians ... (according to him I would be Provencal ...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuvanè View Post
    All in all, in my opinion it makes sense ...


    @Palermo Trapani: the main share is Neolithic European (Sardinian-like: Oetzi and analogues) + a secondary "Armenian" share of the Bronze Age which almost certainly contains a robust CHG component, which arrived in southern Italy especially with the upheavals in the Mediterranean at the final Bronze Age (see Cline) and with the subsequent Greek colonization of the classical age


    @ Duarte: here too the main component is almost always attributable to the usual Neolithic substrate, but as it is right to expect for those who are from the Iberian stock, this and / or the secondary quota are enriched with more or less consistent percentages of WHG


    @ Gabriele: you have more or less my own "mixture", so the neolithic base + the secondary Steppe component (perhaps in your case a little more of CHG, given that Armenian sample appears)

    Here I tried to run some of the samples adopted by the PunDNAL oracle on G25 using some ancestral reference components






    @ Salento: Gedrosia K3 is a calculator that could make sense only for some alien or for those who are a little allergic to human geography. In 3.000 years they will still ask about its actual purpose, but in practice it serves just to distinguish Africans, from Europeans, from Asians ... (according to him I would be Provencal ...)
    Thanks Stuvanè

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuvanè View Post
    All in all, in my opinion it makes sense ...


    @Palermo Trapani: the main share is Neolithic European (Sardinian-like: Oetzi and analogues) + a secondary "Armenian" share of the Bronze Age which almost certainly contains a robust CHG component, which arrived in southern Italy especially with the upheavals in the Mediterranean at the final Bronze Age (see Cline) and with the subsequent Greek colonization of the classical age


    @ Duarte: here too the main component is almost always attributable to the usual Neolithic substrate, but as it is right to expect for those who are from the Iberian stock, this and / or the secondary quota are enriched with more or less consistent percentages of WHG


    @ Gabriele: you have more or less my own "mixture", so the neolithic base + the secondary Steppe component (perhaps in your case a little more of CHG, given that Armenian sample appears)

    Here I tried to run some of the samples adopted by the PunDNAL oracle on G25 using some ancestral reference components






    @ Salento/Angela/Duarte: Gedrosia K3 is a calculator that could make sense only for some alien or for those who are a little allergic to human geography. In 3.000 years they will still ask about its actual purpose, but in practice it serves just to distinguish (badly) Africans, from Europeans, from Asians ... (according to him I would be Provencal ...)
    I'm your neighbor. :)
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 French_South @ 0.000000
    2 Bergamo @ 0.501055
    3 English @ 0.749153
    4 French @ 1.084623
    5 Albanian @ 1.218233
    6 LBK_EN @ 1.276386
    7 Greek @ 1.287931
    8 Sardinian @ 1.291654
    9 Croatian @ 1.932827
    10 Spanish @ 2.004524
    11 Czech @ 2.034308
    12 Stuttgart @ 2.045782
    13 Norwegian @ 2.371137
    14 Bulgarian @ 2.793209
    15 Hungarian @ 3.257035
    16 Lithuanian @ 3.402356
    17 Sicilian @ 3.799302
    18 Georgian @ 3.836918
    19 Cypriot @ 3.845514
    20 Ukrainian @ 4.203940

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuvanè View Post
    All in all, in my opinion it makes sense ...


    @Palermo Trapani: the main share is Neolithic European (Sardinian-like: Oetzi and analogues) + a secondary "Armenian" share of the Bronze Age which almost certainly contains a robust CHG component, which arrived in southern Italy especially with the upheavals in the Mediterranean at the final Bronze Age (see Cline) and with the subsequent Greek colonization of the classical age


    @ Duarte: here too the main component is almost always attributable to the usual Neolithic substrate, but as it is right to expect for those who are from the Iberian stock, this and / or the secondary quota are enriched with more or less consistent percentages of WHG


    @ Gabriele: you have more or less my own "mixture", so the neolithic base + the secondary Steppe component (perhaps in your case a little more of CHG, given that Armenian sample appears)

    Here I tried to run some of the samples adopted by the PunDNAL oracle on G25 using some ancestral reference components






    @ Salento/Angela/Duarte: Gedrosia K3 is a calculator that could make sense only for some alien or for those who are a little allergic to human geography. In 3.000 years they will still ask about its actual purpose, but in practice it serves just to distinguish (badly) Africans, from Europeans, from Asians ... (according to him I would be Provencal ...)
    Following Duarte, Grazie Mille Stuvane. So I think that PuntDNA ancient is inline with the recent research documented by Raveane et al 2019, Neolithic EEF type ancestry is the dominate source, which is the case in all modern 20 Italian regions and with a strong secondary CHG/Iran Neolithic type ancestry in Southern Italy and Sicily and CHG I think extending into North of Rome.

    Glad to got me to take a loot at it. I think probably the first tool that looks at Ancient DNA and gets results that I think make sense with what MTA is telling me about ancient populations and it again lines up with Raveane et al 2019 Figure 2 results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuvanè View Post
    All in all, in my opinion it makes sense ...


    @Palermo Trapani: the main share is Neolithic European (Sardinian-like: Oetzi and analogues) + a secondary "Armenian" share of the Bronze Age which almost certainly contains a robust CHG component, which arrived in southern Italy especially with the upheavals in the Mediterranean at the final Bronze Age (see Cline) and with the subsequent Greek colonization of the classical age


    @ Duarte: here too the main component is almost always attributable to the usual Neolithic substrate, but as it is right to expect for those who are from the Iberian stock, this and / or the secondary quota are enriched with more or less consistent percentages of WHG


    @ Gabriele: you have more or less my own "mixture", so the neolithic base + the secondary Steppe component (perhaps in your case a little more of CHG, given that Armenian sample appears)

    Here I tried to run some of the samples adopted by the PunDNAL oracle on G25 using some ancestral reference components






    @ Salento/Angela/Duarte: Gedrosia K3 is a calculator that could make sense only for some alien or for those who are a little allergic to human geography. In 3.000 years they will still ask about its actual purpose, but in practice it serves just to distinguish (badly) Africans, from Europeans, from Asians ... (according to him I would be Provencal ...)
    I'm your neighbor. :)
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 French_South @ 0.000000
    2 Bergamo @ 0.501055
    3 English @ 0.749153
    4 French @ 1.084623
    5 Albanian @ 1.218233
    6 LBK_EN @ 1.276386
    7 Greek @ 1.287931
    8 Sardinian @ 1.291654
    9 Croatian @ 1.932827
    10 Spanish @ 2.004524
    11 Czech @ 2.034308
    12 Stuttgart @ 2.045782
    13 Norwegian @ 2.371137
    14 Bulgarian @ 2.793209
    15 Hungarian @ 3.257035
    16 Lithuanian @ 3.402356
    17 Sicilian @ 3.799302
    18 Georgian @ 3.836918
    19 Cypriot @ 3.845514
    20 Ukrainian @ 4.203940


    One thing of note, I think. This PUNT K12 seems to give much higher levels of steppe for Southern Europeans than do the academic studies. I think steppe here may include what in other analyses might be Iran Neo.

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    K3

    Using 1 population approximation:

    1 Cypriot @ 0.000000
    2 Sicilian @ 0.000000

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Albanian +25% Bergamo +25% Saudi @ 0.000000

    K12

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Greek @ 14.144091
    2 Sicilian @ 18.563683

    Using 3 populations approximation:

    1 50% Greek +25% Russian +25% Stuttgart @ 4.575474

    K6

    1 Spanish @ 3.253918

    2 French @ 3.536413
    3 Croatian @ 4.155406
    4 Hungarian @ 4.755836
    5 English @ 6.161438
    6 Romanian @ 6.428096
    7 Czech @ 6.509709
    8 Scottish @ 7.430361
    9 Ukrainian @ 8.017553
    10 Bulgarian @ 8.058025
    11 Basque @ 8.199252
    12 Norwegian @ 8.529338
    13 Icelandic @ 9.744299
    14 Europe_LNBA @ 10.917182

    1 Albanian + Cypriot + Hungarian_KO1 + Palestinian @ 0.825008

    2 Albanian + Cypriot + Palestinian + WHG @ 0.825008



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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    K3

    Using 1 population approximation:

    1 Cypriot @ 0.000000
    2 Sicilian @ 0.000000

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Albanian +25% Bergamo +25% Saudi @ 0.000000

    K12

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Greek @ 14.144091
    2 Sicilian @ 18.563683

    Using 3 populations approximation:

    1 50% Greek +25% Russian +25% Stuttgart @ 4.575474

    K6

    1 Spanish @ 3.253918

    2 French @ 3.536413
    3 Croatian @ 4.155406
    4 Hungarian @ 4.755836
    5 English @ 6.161438
    6 Romanian @ 6.428096
    7 Czech @ 6.509709
    8 Scottish @ 7.430361
    9 Ukrainian @ 8.017553
    10 Bulgarian @ 8.058025
    11 Basque @ 8.199252
    12 Norwegian @ 8.529338
    13 Icelandic @ 9.744299
    14 Europe_LNBA @ 10.917182

    1 Albanian + Cypriot + Hungarian_KO1 + Palestinian @ 0.825008

    2 Albanian + Cypriot + Palestinian + WHG @ 0.825008


    Gedrosia K3 has some East/West Europe samples switched or reversed.

    ... the results we posted show that.

    The Legacy of Atlantis :)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Gedrosia K3 has some East/West Europe samples switched or reversed.

    ... the results we posted show that.

    The Legacy of Atlantis :)
    It is still Western Europe but perhaps it is like a meridian where a certain fusion between Western Europe and Eastern Europe can already be felt.

    When they show me a document from the Roman Empire of the Middle Ages e.t.c. in which Northern Europe and Southern Europe are discussed, then I will mention them, in the meantime it will continue to be Western Europe and Eastern Europe in the same way that my ancestors did.

    It would be interesting to see the K3 of someone from Eastern Europe but who was close to the border with Western Europe.

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    Bedouins are a beautiful people and proud of their origins. It is a pity that, in my case, the result of Bedouin ancestry pointed by GEDmatch Gedrosia K3 has to be seen with a grain of salt.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedouin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I'm your neighbor. :)
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 French_South @ 0.000000
    2 Bergamo @ 0.501055
    3 English @ 0.749153
    4 French @ 1.084623
    5 Albanian @ 1.218233
    6 LBK_EN @ 1.276386
    7 Greek @ 1.287931
    8 Sardinian @ 1.291654
    9 Croatian @ 1.932827
    10 Spanish @ 2.004524
    11 Czech @ 2.034308
    12 Stuttgart @ 2.045782
    13 Norwegian @ 2.371137
    14 Bulgarian @ 2.793209
    15 Hungarian @ 3.257035
    16 Lithuanian @ 3.402356
    17 Sicilian @ 3.799302
    18 Georgian @ 3.836918
    19 Cypriot @ 3.845514
    20 Ukrainian @ 4.203940


    One thing of note, I think. This PUNT K12 seems to give much higher levels of steppe for Southern Europeans than do the academic studies. I think steppe here may include what in other analyses might be Iran Neo.
    I agree, neighbour ;)

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    As expected, mine is even stranger ...:)



    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 W_Eurasian 81.64
    2 E_Eurasian 13.87
    3 SSA 4.48


    Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
    3 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Makrani @ 3.845373
    2 Brahui @ 5.616451
    3 Balochi @ 6.043459
    4 Turkish @ 6.472414
    5 Iranian @ 6.713186
    6 Balkar @ 7.069849
    7 Tajik_Pomiri @ 7.360632
    8 Russian @ 8.797531
    9 Finnish @ 9.190976
    10 Mordovian @ 9.387078
    11 Kurd_C @ 10.008834
    12 Adygei @ 10.765131
    13 Kalash @ 11.384012
    14 Pashtun_Afghan @ 12.396035
    15 Chechen @ 12.421478
    16 Syrian @ 12.939278
    17 Kurd_N @ 13.023369
    18 Jordanian @ 13.613901
    19 Pathan @ 13.629040
    20 Lebanese @ 14.013447

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Lebanese +50% Pathan @ 0.000000
    2 50% Lebanese +50% Tajik @ 0.430700
    3 50% Iraqi_Jew +50% Kurd_SE @ 0.618767
    4 50% Pashtun_Afghan +50% Syrian @ 0.668052
    5 50% Kalash +50% Syrian @ 0.751131
    6 50% Saudi +50% Tajik @ 0.758178
    7 50% Lebanese +50% Pashtun_Afghan @ 0.888850
    8 50% Pathan +50% Syrian @ 0.954499
    9 50% Ashkenazi_Jew +50% Kurd_SE @ 1.092636
    10 50% Tajik +50% Yemenite_Jew @ 1.092764
    11 50% Jordanian +50% Kalash @ 1.278205
    12 50% Pathan +50% Saudi @ 1.286666
    13 50% Assyrian +50% Kurd_SE @ 1.324127
    14 50% Makrani +50% Turkish @ 1.356296
    15 50% Cypriot +50% Kurd_SE @ 1.395195
    16 50% Kurd_SE +50% Sicilian @ 1.412685
    17 50% Syrian +50% Tajik @ 1.427017
    18 50% Iranian_Jew +50% Kurd_SE @ 1.431610
    19 50% Palestinian +50% Tajik @ 1.500215
    20 50% Iranian +50% Makrani @ 1.503110


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Abkhasian +25% BedouinA +25% UP_Kol @ 0.000000

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    DISTANCES:

    I see people posting 5, 10 or below GD,

    ... at MTA, R1548 (165 AD) @ 9.741 is my Top and only sample below 10. (LivingDNA r-data in this case, I get also SZ40 below 10 in some other too, more or less)

    just sayin’

    1. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 9.741 - R1548

    2. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.1 - SZ40


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    1. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 10.07 - R1548

    2. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 10.91 - R1290

    3. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.03 - SZ40

    4. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 11.29 - R136

    5. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 11.58 - R114

    6. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.7 - SZ36






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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    DISTANCES:

    I see people posting 10 or below GD,

    ... at MTA, R1548 (165 AD) @ 9.741 is my Top and only sample below 10. (LivingDNA r-data in this case, I get also SZ40 below 10 in some other too, more or less)

    just sayin’

    1. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 9.741 - R1548

    2. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.1 - SZ40


    —————

    1. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 10.07 - R1548

    2. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 10.91 - R1290

    3. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.03 - SZ40

    4. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 11.29 - R136

    5. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 11.58 - R114

    6. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.7 - SZ36
    They haven't found your ideal corpse yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    They haven't found your ideal corpse yet
    Maybe it’s because they’re using a EU K15 type of calculator, and I get big distances with that one (many other Italians too).

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    my Rs Sample results on Various Calculators (coordinates by Jovialis) :)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    my Rs Sample results on Various Calculators (coordinates by Jovialis) :)

    The dodecad calculators seem more consistent with the others and accurate, than Eurogenes K15, or MTA, which is a derivative of Eurogenes K15. According to Davidiski himself, MDLP also apparently adjusts for the "calculator effect". Which is a non-issue regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    The dodecad calculators seem more consistent with the others and accurate, than Eurogenes K15, or MTA, which is a derivative of Eurogenes K15. According to Davidiski himself, MDLP also apparently adjusts for the "calculator effect". Which is a non-issue regardless.
    If you look at the Calculator results above, R1548 (MTA Top Match) shows-up only in Eurogenes K15, in a different position, but with a distance of 9.70 vs MTA 9.74 :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Maybe it’s because they’re using a EU K15 type of calculator, and I get big distances with that one (many other Italians too).
    I'm more or less the same. Only short distances are seen in Germanic users. They blame it on the cold that their corpses are better preserved. I do not know but perhaps the tests and the gold standard that they used to say it somehow revolved around the Germanic ones and when they obtained short distances they gave it as good for everyone; Even if we did get longer distances, to say the least, I really don't know what's going on.

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    The main issue with these older calculators is that they were made with modern populations as broad regional components. We now know the intricacies of certain areas, rendering certain labels, like "Eastern Mediterranean" as absoultely useless. The only way we can accurately identify our ancestral origins, are to utilize samples of source populations, that no longer exist in unmixed form.

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