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In the new Timeline fingerprint ...the first is with sample R1 of which 1 share 1763 snp's
next best is sample I4331 with 725 shared Snp
3rd is sample SZ32 with 710 shared snps
Fathers mtdna ... T2b17
Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
Sons mtdna ... K1a4o
Mum paternal line ... R1b-S8172
Grandmum paternal side ... I1d1-P109
Wife paternal line ... R1a-Z282
Latin R437 705 snps - Latin R850 613 snps
R436 Roman Imperial Palestrina 807snps
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All my matches with Viking. A great Viking lot, I remember two other great lots among my results that overflowed also my grill that were the Catalan iron called so maybe but it was representative of the Iberian peninsular iron and the other great lot was The Alps. I know you are as excited as I am.
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With a massive 4604 shared SNPs, 1000 BC SZ1 must be a “Base” Ancestral sample, from which most of my other matching samples get a piece of. I Think :)
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”Multiple samples can share the same segments, this can denote greater common ancestry.”
45 samples sharing the same segment:
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SZ1 was found in ancient western pannonia ( hungaria )/northern dalmatian,,,, ancient northern "illyrian" group ...................most likely forefather of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iapygians
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Last edited by Salento; 21-11-20 at 05:33.
Now let's see my results from the year 1000 DA
14. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.71 - I10852
Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (4.475)
22. Le Mans Revolutionary France
1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.51 - LM_406_T
Gallo-Roman + Frank (4.185)
25. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.65 - I10851
Visigoth + Rhaeti (4.057)
28. Late Medieval L'Esquerda Spain
1350 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.81 - T-145-2
Visigoth + Al-Andalus (5.165)
30. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1485 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.94 - R1221
Etruscan + Frank (4.984)
47. Viking Age Karda Smaland Sweden
1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.0 - VK265
Belgae + Vascones (3.737)
63. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.64 - I10853
Al-Andalus + Etruscan (5.522)
67. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1429 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.84 - R1289
Iberian + Latin (2.215)
76. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy
1355 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.06 - R55
Illyrian (2.89)
89. Nazari Period Andalusia
1400 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.41 - I8145
Aquitani + Gallo-Roman (13.97)
95. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.55 - I12514
Al-Andalus + Illyrian (5.302)
98. Iberian Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.59 - I2649
Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (5.732)
100. Crusader Knight French / Lebanon
1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.61 - SI-40
Crusader (Genetic match)
101. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.62 - I7498
Al-Andalus (Genetic match)
103. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.64 - I12515
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (5.027)
106. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1429 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.69 - R1287
Gallo-Roman + Roman (5.06)
111. Medieval Cancarro Church Foggia Italy
1150 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.91 - VK538
Gaul + Boii (3.986)
120. Marseilles Plague Victim
1721 AD - Genetic Distance: 15.24 - OBS137
Gaul + Gallo-Roman (7.596)
122. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy
1355 AD - Genetic Distance: 15.28 - R61
Visigoth + Etruscan (6.796)
124. Iberian Taifa of Valencia
1100 AD - Genetic Distance: 15.36 - I2515
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (4.996)
144. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD - Genetic Distance: 15.95 - I12516
Etruscan + Illyrian (7.596)
149. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.03 - I12644
Roman Hispania (2.908)
151. Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse
1348 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.23 - SLC1006
Frank + Illyrian (7.337)
155. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1005 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.3 - R1285
Illyrian + Phoenician (5.549)
156. Le Mans Revolutionary France
1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.35 - LM_306_T
Belgae + Ostrogoth (4.782)
161. Medieval Cancarro Church Foggia Italy
1150 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.46 - VK536
Gallo-Roman + Roman (6.529)
162. Iberian Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.49 - I2644
Roman Hispania (5.583)
167. Post-Reconquista Granada
1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.58 - I7425
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (5.968)
173. Iberian Taifa of Valencia
1120 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.7 - I2514
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (6.594)
176. East Smithfield Plague Victim London
1349 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.75 - 8291
Viking Icelandic + Vascones (6.572)
177. Post-Reconquista Granada
1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.77 - I3809
Iberian + Roman Hispania (8.691)
180. Carthago Al-Andalus Alhama de Granada
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.9 - I7457
Etruscan + Phoenician (4.789)
189. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1485 AD - Genetic Distance: 17.17 - R1220
Viking Icelandic + Frank (5.209)
192. Relic French King Louis XVI
1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 17.27 - LXVI
Roman + Illyrian (5.65)
213. Marseilles Plague Victim
1721 AD - Genetic Distance: 17.64 - OBS116
Thuringii + Frank (9.422)
226. Jean-Paul Marat Revolutionary France
1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 17.92 - Marat
Al-Andalus + Frank (7.196)
233. Roman Cancelleria Basilica
1090 AD - Genetic Distance: 18.29 - R1224
Celt + Ostrogoth (4.254)
236. Medieval Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 18.36 - I12649
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (4.249)
239. Viking Age Ribe Jutland
1089 AD - Genetic Distance: 18.5 - VK330
Saxon + Ostrogoth (6.067)
249. Franco Medieval Villa Magna Italy
1215 AD - Genetic Distance: 18.75 - R62
Ostrogoth + Frank (5.412)
253. Medieval Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 18.8 - I12645
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (5.762)
265. Danish-Celtic Medieval Denmark
1270 AD - Genetic Distance: 19.06 - G712b
Visigoth + Frank (5.022)
267. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 19.12 - I12647
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (4.161)
273. Medieval Hungary / Balkan
1244 AD - Genetic Distance: 19.38 - DA199
Visigoth + Scythian (7.286)
278. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
1115 AD - Genetic Distance: 19.49 - I10897
Celt + Iberian (3.729)
286. Iberian Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 19.79 - I2647
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (4.63)
299. Medieval Denmark Odense
1315 AD - Genetic Distance: 20.22 - G104b
Viking Danish + Visigoth (3.845)
302. Immigrant Medieval Denmark
1305 AD - Genetic Distance: 20.28 - G274
Belgae + Celtiberian (9.861)
310. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
1002 AD - Genetic Distance: 20.6 - V4P
Celt + Ostrogoth (7.554)
321. Nazari Period Andalusia
1400 AD - Genetic Distance: 20.86 - I8147
Latin + Thracian (11.68)
336. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1440 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.18 - R1219
Viking + Celt (5.179)
338. Oxford Infirmiary
1790 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.25 - CSD
Celt + Vandal (3.068)
342. Celtic Medieval Denmark Ribe
1305 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.39 - G397
Viking Icelandic (8.85)
349. Late Medieval Latvia Riga Dome Church
1622 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.52 - RG161c
Viking Icelandic + Celtiberian (8.763)
361. Viking Age Ribe Jutlan
1084 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.68 - VK322d
Viking Icelandic + Celt (2.841)
363. Viking Age Karda Smaland Sweden
1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.74 - VK269
Viking Icelandic (4.347)
365. Morisco Post-Reconquista Granada
1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.79 - I7424
Roman Hispania + Roman (6.778)
367. Viking Age Karda Smaland Sweden
1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.86 - VK267
Pict + Vascones (4.015)
372. Post-Reconquista Granada
1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.0 - I3807
Etruscan + Thracian (6.737)
379. Le Mans Revolutionary France
1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.11 - LM_213_T
Iberian + Vascones (11.12)
382. Viking Age Skara Varnhem Sweden
1050 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.15 - VK426
Alemanni + Vascones (5.423)
383. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
1002 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.18 - V1P
Viking Icelandic + Celtiberian (5.826)
391. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
1002 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.44 - V8P
Viking + Boii (6.152)
395. Post-Reconquista Granada
1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.49 - I7423
Etruscan + Carthaginian (9.241)
400. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
1002 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.56 - V2P
Longobard + Ostrogoth (3.816)
402. Viking Age Karda Smaland Sweden
1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.58 - VK266
Viking + Celt (2.316)
403. Viking Age Hofstadir Iceland
1050 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.59 - VK111
Viking Icelandic + Celt (2.668)
408. Medieval Cambridge Plague Victim
1350 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.74 - NMA003A
Viking + Belgae (9.034)
411. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
1002 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.83 - V5P
Viking Icelandic + Belgae (4.466)
414. Viking Sweden - Basque Female
1100 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.89 - bns023
Celt + Belgae (14.8)
417. Sala Silver Mine Sweden
1610 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.92 - Sk6990
Celt + Belgae (5.553)
420. Danish Viking Medieval Denmark
1150 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.98 - G57
Viking Danish + Belgae (3.866)
422. Pre-Slav Medieval Poland
1100 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.07 - PCA157_Mar6
Boii + Ostrogoth (10.49)
423. Viking Age Hofstadir Iceland
1050 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.09 - VK95
Viking Icelandic + Saxon (2.004)
Iberians among my 125 ancient samples
4. Visigoth Iberian Girona
550 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.859 - I12034
Top99 %match vs all users
6. Early Medieval Andalusia
760 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.948 - I3585
Top99 %match vs all users
7. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.04 - I12514
Top98 %match vs all users
8. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.34 - I12516
Top99 %match vs all users
13. Iberian Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.64 - I2649
Top99 %match vs all users
16. Cueva de la Paloma Spain
2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.99 - I3239
Top99 %match vs all users
22. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.44 - I7498
Top98 %match vs all users
24. Iberian Taifa of Valencia
1100 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.49 - I2515
Top97 %match vs all users
27. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.62 - I10853
Top99 %match vs all users
28. Roman-Era Empuries
47 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.64 - I10866
Top98 %match vs all users
29. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.65 - I12515
Top97 %match vs all users
35. Post-Reconquista Granada
1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.06 - I7425
Top98 %match vs all users
41. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.41 - I10852
Top99 %match vs all users
43. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.43 - I10851
Top99 %match vs all users
48. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
880 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.61 - I10895
Top98 %match vs all users
49. Early Medieval Iberia Granada
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.63 - I3981
Top98 %match vs all users
51. Iberian Taifa of Valencia
1120 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.82 - I2514
Top97 %match vs all users
53. Iberian Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.9 - I2644
Top98 %match vs all users
63. Carthago Al-Andalus Alhama de Granada
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.13 - I7457
Top99 %match vs all users
64. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.18 - I12644
Top98 %match vs all users
67. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.28 - I12647
Top98 %match vs all users
68. Roman Villa Granada Spain
300 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.41 - I3982
Top98 %match vs all users
69. Medieval Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.42 - I12649
Top96 %match vs all users
72. Iberian Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.59 - I2647
Top98 %match vs all users
80. Medieval Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.96 - I12645
Top99 %match vs all users
81. Late-Roman Era Montefrio Granada
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.24 - I3582
Top98 %match vs all users
86. Greco-Era Emporion
425 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.41 - I8341
Top99 %match vs all users
91. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan
600 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.59 - I4556
Top99 %match vs all users
104. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas
1290 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.21 - I12208
Top99 %match vs all users
105. Roman-Carthago Mix Empuries
150 AD - Genetic Distance: 15.22 - I8475
Top98 %match vs all users
109. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas
1290 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.39 - I12209
Top99 %match vs all users
125. Post-Reconquista Granada
1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.07 - I3807
Top99 %match vs all users
... by coincidence, though some say there’s not such a thing, two of the Skeleton Lake samples are strikingly close to my final Haplogroups.
... saw them on Ancient Aliens :)
... apparently they got too close to Shambala, but only the Worthy are allowed to Enter, so the Yeti (protector of Shambala) hit them hard,
and that’s how they ended up at the bottom of the Lake, ... yep![]()
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... also, Croma Analysis shows that the Skeleton Lake samples close to my Haplogroups are next to each other,
... my Parents’ genes must have met in the past too :)
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Even though the samples are only 200 years old ... I do wonder if there’s a tribal or local connection between a y T1a2 line and mt H12,
... both Haplogroups are not that popular, but I3403 and I3404 were found together and they are a close match to me :)
mt H12
3. Skeleton Lake Traveller - Hellenic
1805 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.02 - I3404
Top 98 % match vs all users
y T1a2 (L131)
27. Skeleton Lake Traveller - Hellenic
1805 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.76 - I3403
Top 99 % match vs all users
Ancient Ancestry:
Ancestral Timelapse:
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... Compared to the old LivDNA timeline,
about 1,700 and 500 years ago:
(... maybe a Brits bias, or a Roman lineage)
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mtDNA H12:
3. Skeleton Lake Traveller - Hellenic
1805 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.02 - I3404
Top 98 % match vs all users
68. Skeleton Lake Traveller - Hellenic
1810 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.64 - I6937
Top 98 % match vs all users
96. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
860 AD - Genetic Distance: 18.92 - R1283
Top 96 % match vs all users
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Last edited by Salento; 24-11-20 at 08:56.
My latest updates in:
Your European Ancestral Timelapse map
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... Skeleton Lake in the Himalayas has two H12 Mediterranean samples, dated 1805 and 1810.
... assuming they’re related, after 5 years missing, the 1810 sample went to search for the 1805 sample, but she suffered the same fate![]()
I guess :)
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Interesting, ... in 860 AD the population of Rome was just around 35.000,
... R1283 (with my H12 mtDNA) was one of those Romans :)
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The legend had spread that in that inhospitable place the dead lived and there you could meet again with your dear ones already dead so that many were those who started the way but nobody returned to tell it what increased the myth and encouraged for centuries more pilgrims to take the road becoming finally the myth in reality.
Italians among my 125 ancient samples
2. Gallo-Roman Lombard Grave
580 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.629 - CL94
3. Etruscan Civitavecchia
650 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.714 - R474
5. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.945 - R33
14. Medieval Villa Magna Italy
990 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.87 - R63
20. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy
1355 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.25 - R55
45. Gallo-Roman Crypta Balbi
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.55 - R109
50. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1429 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.69 - R1287
52. Etruscan Civitavecchia
650 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.87 - R473
57. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy
1355 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.05 - R61
58. Gallo-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.07 - R108
60. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1485 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.07 - R1221
61. Late Roman Mix Crypta Balbi
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.1 - R105
62. Villanovan Etruscan Italy VGG
850 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.12 - R1015
84. Medieval Cancarro Church Foggia Italy
1150 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.36 - VK538
85. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy
580 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.38 - CL47b
87. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1005 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.42 - R1285
88. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.45 - R36
89. Medieval Piedmont
580 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.49 - CL57
93. Vasconic-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.68 - R110
96. Roman-Illyrian Lombard Grave
580 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.82 - CL23
107. Latin Tribe Inland BE
650 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.3 - R1021
108. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro
930 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.37 - R1
114. Early Bronze Age Abisso del Vento Sicily
2073 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.58 - I8561
123. Medieval Cancarro Church Foggia Italy
1150 AD - Genetic Distance: 15.93 - VK536
124. Late Copper Age Italy
2600 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.94 - 9314_Oss
... out of 100 samples ... my Ancient Iberians:
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Last edited by Salento; 25-11-20 at 02:42. Reason: ... I missed one :)