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    ... Latins R850 and R437 are about 300 years apart, ... they share double positions in my Chroms 8 and 20

    ... the closest thing to Immortality ...

    from Tarantati, they’re slowly turning into Yankees







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    ... R850 and I also share a piece of the Y chromosome, though the y and x chr. are not included in “Chroma Analysis”.

    T1a1... vs T1a2... (me)

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    Mis otuliers masculinos BC
    I have included the uncertain ones as masculine

    488. Neolithic Ireland
    3200 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.06 - Ballynahatty
    Etruscan + Balari (3.858)
    Phoenician + Balari (5.294)
    Carthaginian + Balari (6.327)
    Latin + Carthaginian (9.81)
    Latin + Balari (9.871)
    Phoenician (12.18)
    Etruscan (14.52)
    Balari (15.89)
    Carthaginian (16.6)
    Latin (19.05)

    496. Neolithic Ireland

    3000 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.17 - CAK531
    Latin + Balari (3.834)
    Ligurian + Balari (4.39)
    Iberian + Balari (5.139)
    Etruscan + Balari (8.429)
    Latin (10.34)
    Latin + Etruscan (12.7)
    Etruscan (16.13)
    Iberian (17.7)
    Ligurian (18.47)
    Balari (18.48)

    447. Late Neolithic Oberbipp Switzerland
    2800 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.5 - MX299
    Iberian + Aquitani (13.83)
    Iberian + Etruscan (15.11)
    Iberian (15.27)
    Iberian + Vascones (15.73)
    Iberian + Rhaeti (15.79)
    Aquitani (16.64)
    Vascones + Aquitani (18.13)

    461. Copper Age Beaker Brandysek Czech
    2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.73 - I7276
    Saxon + Frank (4.341)
    Visigoth + Saxon (4.808)
    Frank (5.033)
    Visigoth + Frank (5.4)
    Celt + Frank (5.713)
    Saxon (5.812)
    Longobard + Frank (5.819)
    Visigoth (6.222)
    Longobard (9.851)
    Celt (10.07)

    453. Bronze Age Yehud Southern Levant

    2250 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.61 - I6932
    Ligurian + Carthaginian (16.05)
    Latin + Carthaginian (16.95)
    Gallo-Roman + Carthaginian (16.99)
    Etruscan + Carthaginian (19.67)

    495. Early Bronze Age Plymouth
    1840 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.16 - I5441
    Celt + Belgae (7.169)
    Celt + Saxon (8.189)
    Belgae + Saxon (8.535)
    Celt + Frank (9.947)
    Belgae + Vandal (10.5)
    Celt (10.65)
    Saxon (14.43)
    Belgae (14.64)
    Vandal (15.36)
    Frank (15.45)

    475. Bronze Age Leith Edinburgh Scotland
    1535 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.87 - I5470

    Iberian + Aquitani (11.48)
    Iberian + Vascones (11.69)
    Celt + Iberian (12.9)
    Iberian + Celtiberian (13.57)
    Aquitani + Celtiberian (16.41)

    380. North Alpine Middle Bronze Age Outlier

    1756 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.08 - OTTM_154
    Belgae + Phoenician (20.54)
    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (20.71)
    Iberian + Illyrian (20.73)
    Belgae + Iberian (22.34)
    Illyrian + Phoenician (22.47)
    Illyrian (24.14)
    Gallo-Roman (25.22)
    Belgae (25.39)
    Phoenician (25.98)
    Iberian (26.02)

    445. Bronze Age Szolad Hungary
    1000 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.46 - SZ1
    Gallo-Roman + Gepid (8.164)
    Gepid + Illyrian (10.3)
    Thuringii + Gallo-Roman (11.14)
    Gaul + Gallo-Roman (11.44)
    Gaul + Gepid (11.69)
    Gallo-Roman (12.96)
    Gaul (13.62)
    Illyrian (14.71)
    Thuringii (15.77)
    Gepid (16.6)

    448. Phoenician/Punic Sardinia Mount Sirai
    675 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.52 - MSR003
    Phoenician (Genetic match)

    472. Celt Hinxton Iron Age
    45 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.85 - HI2
    Celt (Genetic match)

    479. Roman-Era Emporion
    200 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.93 - I8205
    Roman Hispania + Illyrian (16.03)
    Roman Hispania (16.34)
    Roman Hispania + Roman (16.41)
    Illyrian + Phoenician (18.02)
    Roman + Phoenician (18.05)
    Roman + Illyrian (18.34)
    Illyrian (18.39)




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    My female outliers BC

    498. Rossberga Neolithic Valtorp Sweden

    3120 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.22 - ros3
    Etruscan + Balari (2.287)
    Iberian + Balari (2.441)
    Latin + Balari (6.432)
    Phoenician + Balari (7.846)
    Iberian + Phoenician (11.54)
    Balari (14.52)
    Etruscan (14.84)
    Phoenician (16.54)
    Latin (17.17)
    Iberian (17.52)

    450. Corded Ware Estonia
    2460 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.53 - Rise595
    Aquitani + Boii (16.46)
    Boii + Etruscan (17.02)
    Boii (18.08)
    Rhaeti + Boii (18.37)
    Gallo-Roman + Boii (18.5)
    Aquitani + Gallo-Roman (19.16)

    406. Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech
    2215 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.58 - I4896
    Visigoth + Celt (2.797)
    Celt + Frank (3.561)
    Gaul + Saxon (3.702)
    Celt + Gaul (3.784)
    Saxon + Frank (4.86)
    Frank (6.733)
    Visigoth (7.895)
    Celt (8.987)
    Gaul (9.445)
    Saxon (9.703)

    460. Copper Age Rouffach Haut-Rhin France
    2225 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.71 - I1391
    Celt + Celtiberian (11.4)
    Belgae + Celtiberian (12.62)
    Celt (13.13)
    Celtiberian (13.23)
    Celt + Vascones (13.64)
    Vascones + Celtiberian (13.7)
    Celt + Belgae (14.53)
    Vascones (15.44)
    Belgae (19.1)

    491. Bronze Age Chippenham Cambridgeshire England
    1850 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.1 - I7639
    Celtiberian + Saxon (8.053)
    Celt + Celtiberian (8.235)
    Vascones + Saxon (10.76)
    Celt + Belgae (11.09)
    Celt + Vascones (11.09)
    Celt (14.84)
    Belgae (16.34)
    Saxon (18.85)
    Vascones (19.11)
    Celtiberian (19.15)

    492. Strachow Bronze Age Poland
    1880 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.11 - I6538
    Celt + Alemanni (10.36)
    Celt + Saxon (11.66)
    Celt + Frank (11.91)
    Celt (12.54)
    Alemanni + Frank (12.78)
    Saxon + Frank (12.89)
    Saxon (15.67)
    Alemanni (16.58)
    Vandal (16.68)
    Frank (17.47)

    431. Unetice Bohemia
    1875 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.16 - Rise154
    Celt + Belgae (6.365)
    Belgae + Saxon (8.371)
    Belgae (8.581)
    Belgae + Frank (8.603)
    Celt (9.315)
    Celt + Frank (9.38)
    Belgae + Ostrogoth (9.773)
    Saxon (12.19)
    Frank (12.22)
    Ostrogoth (15.2)

    451. North Alpine Middle Bronze Age
    1593 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.55 - OTTM_142
    Celt + Belgae (11.6)
    Belgae (12.18)
    Belgae + Saxon (13.86)
    Belgae + Frank (14.3)
    Visigoth + Belgae (15.02)
    Celt (15.11)
    Visigoth + Celt (16.02)
    Frank (19.77)

    487. Western Scythian Ukraine
    600 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.04 - MJ47
    Celt + Scythian (6.93)
    Visigoth + Scythian (8.044)
    Belgae + Scythian (8.306)
    Scythian + Frank (8.719)
    Celt + Frank (10.5)
    Scythian (11.67)
    Celt (11.98)
    Visigoth (12.79)
    Frank (13.01)
    Belgae (14.01)

    444. Carthaginian Roman-Era Empuries
    200 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.42 - I8204
    Phoenician + Carthaginian (5.336)
    Etruscan + Carthaginian (5.488)
    Roman Hispania + Phoenician (5.609)
    Roman Hispania + Carthaginian (6.143)
    Phoenician (7.458)
    Philistine + Phoenician (7.96)
    Carthaginian (9.338)
    Roman Hispania (11.76)
    Etruscan (14.63)
    Philistine (18.02)

    426. Roman-Era Empuries
    47 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.04 - I10865
    Iberian + Phoenician (6.765)
    Iberian + Roman Hispania (10.48)
    Aquitani + Phoenician (11.73)
    Iberian + Etruscan (12.31)
    Phoenician (13.18)
    Iberian + Aquitani (13.54)
    Iberian (13.82)
    Aquitani (17.42)
    Etruscan (18.29)



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    My male outliers AD

    478. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP
    100 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.93 - R113
    Roman + Phoenician (7.366)
    Roman Hispania + Phoenician (9.506)
    Roman + Carthaginian (10.4)
    Roman Hispania + Roman (11.05)
    Gallo-Roman + Carthaginian (11.11)
    Phoenician (12.98)
    Roman Hispania (13.39)
    Carthaginian (14.87)
    Roman (16.3)
    Gallo-Roman (18.16)

    468. Roman Empire Monterotondo
    165 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.8 - R1540
    Hellenic Roman + Roman Hispania (6.097)
    Roman + Illyrian (7.151)
    Roman Hispania + Roman (7.216)
    Hellenic Roman + Illyrian (8.337)
    Roman Hispania + Illyrian (8.969)
    Roman (9.217)
    Roman Hispania (11.03)
    Illyrian (13.55)
    Hellenic Roman (14.5)
    Gallo-Roman (15.34)

    421. Roman Villa Granada Spain
    350 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.91 - I3983
    Roman Hispania (Genetic match)

    353. Late Roman Iberia Granada

    470 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.51 - I3576
    Roman Hispania (Genetic match)

    389. Central Roman
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.29 - SZ43
    Roman (Genetic match)

    378. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto
    500 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.03 - R32
    Ancient Greek + Thracian (4.339)
    Philistine + Roman (4.534)
    Roman + Thracian (5.249)
    Philistine + Gallo-Roman (5.723)
    Ancient Greek + Gallo-Roman (6.215)
    Roman (8.347)
    Thracian (11.84)
    Gallo-Roman (12.58)
    Ancient Greek (12.62)
    Philistine (12.92)

    457. Carthago-Roman San Ercolano
    500 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.67 - R120
    Illyrian + Carthaginian (8.755)
    Roman Hispania + Roman (8.961)
    Roman + Phoenician (9.231)
    Roman Hispania (9.271)
    Roman Hispania + Phoenician (10.05)
    Roman + Carthaginian (10.06)
    Roman (14.31)
    Illyrian (15.59)
    Phoenician (16.84)
    Carthaginian (17.03)

    485. Roman Mix San Ercolano
    500 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.02 - R118
    Thracian + Illyrian (6.652)
    Roman + Illyrian (6.785)
    Hellenic Roman + Illyrian (7.217)
    Roman Hispania + Roman (7.801)
    Roman Hispania + Illyrian (8.455)
    Roman (9.49)
    Roman Hispania (11.25)
    Illyrian (11.89)
    Thracian (11.97)
    Hellenic Roman (14.72)

    393. Germanic Mixed Tribe
    505 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.35 - AED125b
    Celt + Gaul (10.61)
    Celt + Frank (10.61)
    Celt + Belgae (10.65)
    Viking Danish + Gaul (10.87)
    Viking Danish + Frank (10.87)
    Celt (11.83)
    Belgae (13.35)
    Frank (13.45)
    Viking Danish (13.64)
    Gaul (14.64)

    497. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona
    550 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.2 - I12031
    Scythian + Gaul (6.59)
    Scythian + Frank (7.649)
    Scythian + Thuringii (7.837)
    Gaul (8.718)
    Visigoth + Scythian (8.924)
    Gaul + Thuringii (8.966)
    Thuringii (11.34)
    Scythian (11.65)
    Frank (11.78)
    Visigoth (13.6)

    486. Roman Outlier Lombard Grave
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.03 - SZ31
    Gallo-Roman + Roman (7.168)
    Ancient Greek + Illyrian (7.299)
    Roman + Illyrian (7.878)
    Roman Hispania + Roman (8.131)
    Roman (8.204)
    Ancient Greek + Gallo-Roman (8.365)
    Gallo-Roman (13.61)
    Roman Hispania (13.89)
    Illyrian (15.4)
    Ancient Greek (16.0)

    493. Nordic Lombard
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.14 - SZ14
    Viking Danish + Longobard (4.033)
    Longobard + Frank (4.344)
    Celt + Longobard (4.969)
    Viking Danish + Frank (5.182)
    Celt + Frank (5.522)
    Celt (7.275)
    Viking Danish (7.809)
    Saxon (8.605)
    Frank (8.813)
    Longobard (8.988)

    395. Byzantine Roman Warrior
    605 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.4 - NS3b
    Gaul + Roman (8.486)
    Roman (9.519)
    Gallo-Roman + Roman (9.662)
    Roman + Illyrian (10.24)
    Roman + Thracian (11.1)
    Gaul + Gallo-Roman (11.25)
    Gallo-Roman (12.26)
    Gaul (13.95)
    Illyrian (14.19)
    Thracian (17.55)

    480. Danish Gaelic Viking Iceland
    935 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.94 - SSG-A2
    Celt (Genetic match)

    435. Carthago-Iberian-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate
    950 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.22 - I7500
    Roman Hispania + Phoenician (10.06)
    Phoenician (10.46)
    Al-Andalus + Phoenician (12.53)
    Phoenician + Carthaginian (12.61)
    Etruscan + Phoenician (12.89)
    Roman Hispania + Carthaginian (13.08)
    Roman Hispania (13.75)
    Carthaginian (17.16)
    Etruscan (17.96)
    Al-Andalus (19.42)

    500. Medieval Ireland Kilteasheen
    950 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.32 - KT32
    Celt + Belgae (4.283)
    Viking Danish + Belgae (7.596)
    Viking Icelandic + Celt (8.075)
    Viking Icelandic + Belgae (8.122)
    Viking Danish + Celt (8.522)
    Celt (9.544)
    Viking Danish (11.42)
    Belgae (11.87)
    Viking Icelandic (13.35)
    Saxon (13.72)

    425. Danish Viking Medieval Denmark
    1150 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.98 - G57
    Viking Danish + Belgae (3.866)
    Viking Danish + Celt (4.925)
    Viking Danish (5.37)
    Celt + Belgae (5.393)
    Belgae + Saxon (5.491)
    Viking Danish + Frank (6.51)
    Celt (7.28)
    Frank (9.399)
    Belgae (9.802)
    Saxon (10.79)

    536. Late Medieval Duomo San Nicola Sardinia
    1450 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.04 - SNN001
    Phoenician + Balari (13.79)
    Etruscan + Iolaes (13.91)
    Etruscan + Balari (14.08)
    Phoenician + Iolaes (14.16)
    Carthaginian + Balari (14.68)
    Balari (17.71)


    490. Germanic Medieval Duomo San Nicola Sardinia
    1500 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.1 - SNN001
    Alemanni + Ligurian (9.743)
    Alemanni + Frank (10.91)
    Alemanni + Ostrogoth (11.11)
    Vandal + Ligurian (11.77)
    Vandal + Frank (12.59)
    Alemanni (13.1)
    Ostrogoth (13.85)
    Frank (14.44)
    Vandal (15.35)
    Ligurian (15.95)

    466. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance
    1650 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.77 - R970
    Roman + Illyrian (5.741)
    Roman Hispania + Roman (6.706)
    Roman (7.753)
    Roman + Thracian (7.78)
    Gallo-Roman + Roman (7.923)
    Thracian + Illyrian (7.925)
    Roman Hispania (11.63)
    Illyrian (12.23)
    Thracian (13.13)
    Gallo-Roman (13.26)


    My woman outliers AD

    469. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona
    165 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.81 - R836
    Philistine + Roman (9.784)
    Gallo-Roman + Roman (10.36)
    Roman + Thracian (10.59)
    Philistine + Gallo-Roman (10.68)
    Ancient Greek + Gallo-Roman (10.69)
    Roman (11.5)
    Philistine (15.22)
    Gallo-Roman (16.01)
    Ancient Greek (16.55)
    Thracian (17.41)

    394. Ostrogoth Frankish Mix
    410 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.37 - STR_328
    Celt + Sarmatian (5.804)
    Belgae + Sarmatian (7.17)
    Sarmatian + Frank (8.006)
    Belgae + Scythian (11.23)
    Celt + Scythian (12.97)
    Belgae (15.53)
    Sarmatian (15.97)
    Scythian (15.99)
    Frank (16.0)
    Celt (16.17)

    499. Visigoth Germanic Girona
    550 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.28 - I12163
    Visigoth (Genetic match)

    481. Celtic Medieval Denmark
    1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.95 - G973
    Celt (6.145)
    Viking Danish + Celt (6.439)
    Celt + Belgae (6.578)
    Celt + Frank (6.96)
    Viking Icelandic + Belgae (6.969)
    Viking Danish + Belgae (7.182)
    Viking Danish (7.715)
    Frank (9.727)
    Belgae (11.4)
    Viking Icelandic (11.81)

    370. Morisco Post-Reconquista Granada
    1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.79 - I7424
    Roman Hispania + Roman (6.778)
    Al-Andalus + Roman (9.008)
    Roman + Illyrian (9.47)
    Roman Hispania + Illyrian (9.789)
    Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (9.873)
    Roman (10.3)
    Roman Hispania (11.82)
    Gallo-Roman (13.78)
    Illyrian (14.3)
    Al-Andalus (15.69)

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    My kit (Gray point) compared to the Girona Sant Juliá de Ramis kits (White point)

    Kit: Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (I10851)

    Visigoth + Rhaeti (4.057)
    Rhaeti + Etruscan (4.377)
    Gallo-Roman + Rhaeti (4.477)
    Rhaeti (5.019)
    Visigoth + Etruscan (5.231)
    Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (5.24)
    Etruscan (5.603)
    Gallo-Roman (6.206)
    Visigoth (6.235)
    Iberian (8.179)
    Kit: Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (I10852)

    Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (4.475)
    Gallo-Roman (4.774)
    Visigoth + Ligurian (5.353)
    Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (5.486)
    Ligurian + Gallo-Roman (5.506)
    Iberian + Ligurian (5.63)
    Visigoth (6.01)
    Etruscan (7.744)
    Ligurian (8.599)
    Iberian (9.262)
    Kit: Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (I10853)

    Al-Andalus + Etruscan (5.522)
    Iberian + Al-Andalus (5.929)
    Visigoth + Etruscan (6.514)
    Rhaeti + Etruscan (6.795)
    Iberian + Etruscan (7.112)
    Etruscan (7.581)
    Rhaeti (9.529)
    Visigoth (9.978)
    Iberian (10.35)
    Al-Andalus (10.37)
    Kit: Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (I10892)

    Vascones + Etruscan (10.61)
    Visigoth + Iberian (10.97)
    Aquitani + Etruscan (11.31)
    Visigoth + Aquitani (11.31)
    Iberian + Aquitani (11.45)
    Aquitani (11.57)
    Iberian (12.34)
    Visigoth (12.97)
    Vascones (13.34)
    Etruscan (13.8)
    Kit: Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (I10895)

    Visigoth + Vascones (4.831)
    Visigoth + Aquitani (5.069)
    Vascones + Gallo-Roman (5.148)
    Visigoth (5.682)
    Visigoth + Iberian (5.797)
    Aquitani + Gallo-Roman (5.961)
    Iberian (7.783)
    Gallo-Roman (7.858)
    Vascones (8.07)
    Aquitani (8.091)
    Kit: Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (I10897)

    Celt + Iberian (3.729)
    Iberian + Vascones (5.384)
    Iberian + Aquitani (8.036)
    Vascones + Celtiberian (8.199)
    Iberian + Celtiberian (8.253)
    Vascones (9.127)
    Celtiberian (11.04)
    Iberian (11.27)
    Aquitani (11.38)
    Celt (12.25)












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    2 members found this post helpful.
    ... comparing to the Skeleton Lake Travelers closest to my Haplogroups:



    ... and R1283 (Medieval Cancelleria Basilica):


    ... my Ancient Greeks and the Thracian got demoted, ...
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    1 members found this post helpful.
    ... found an almost Salentino with my mtDNA from modern Apulia


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    repetead......

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    ... let’s see how these five “VK Medieval Apulians” stack up against a contemporary Apulian,

    Foggia Vikings vs Salento


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    in the comparisons above I lost Ancient Greeks and Thracian, ... though they’re both on the Ancient Ancestry Map,

    ... maybe they're slightly closer to those ancestries than me.


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    ... edit ...



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    You remember that girl from Chiclana who was buried with a seashell and two plaster pearls. Isn't that sweet?



    The same that is, La loma del puerco, because it turns out that I have made several comparisons with your kit and these others

    That some of his relatives intervened in the Neolithic period in North Africa



    That's the same thing, the one on the pig's back, in bronze, because I compared my kit with hers, she's in gray.



    Loma del Puerco vs San Julià de Ramis I19853



    Loma del Puerco vs Sant Julià de Ramis I10897



    La Loma del Puerco vs Cógotas (Vettones) ESP005



    I am there lobbying and I think it has helped me to understand my modern results in FTDNA but I keep it to myself because right now it would be very difficult for me to expose it in an understandable way.

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    Closest group: Roman
    (3334 shared SNPs):

    2 Mausoleo Augusto, 2 Praenestina (Latin and Imperial), 2 Foggia, 3 Imperial Centocelle, 4 Collegno, 4 Szolad, 4 Villa Magna, 2 Casale del Dolce, 2 Tivoli Palace, 3 Marcellino, 3 Skeleton Lake Traveler, R850 Latin Ardea, Crypta Balbi, Celio Military H, Via Paisiello, Necropolis MR, San Ercolano, ANAS, Isola Sacra, Monterotondo, Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate, Minoans, Mycenaean, Oetzi, ...



    CLONE TEST 1... 2 ... 3 ...
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    Closest group: Roman
    (3334 shared SNPs):

    2 Mausoleo Augusto, 2 Praenestina (Latin and Imperial), 2 Foggia, 3 Imperial Centocelle, 4 Collegno, 4 Szolad, 4 Villa Magna, 2 Casale del Dolce, 2 Tivoli Palace, 3 Marcellino, 3 Skeleton Lake Traveler, R850 Latin Ardea, Crypta Balbi, Celio Military H, Via Paisiello, Necropolis MR, San Ercolano, ANAS, Isola Sacra, Monterotondo, Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate, Minoans, Mycenaean, Oetzi, ...



    CLONE TEST 1... 2 ... 3 ...
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    Octavius and I have one thing in common, ... sadly are not the Sestertii

    ... about natalis :)




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    My grandparents and others of their generation, ... in dialect they often called money Sesterzi, ... but today, people hardly say that anymore, ... too bad :)

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    Posts # 3189 and 3190 are duplicates / clones, It's not the first time, if I edit one of them they both change, ... I only posted it once

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    my father new #1


    1. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.095 - MOK10
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    and




    12. Copper Age Szigetszentmiklos Hungary
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    Fathers mtdna ... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ... K1a4o
    Mum paternal line ... R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side ... I1d1-P109
    Wife paternal line ... R1a-Z282

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    updated my new oldest ancient matches




    12. Copper Age Szigetszentmiklos Hungary
    2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.16 - I7043
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    40. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol
    2775 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.31 - I3499
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    49. Copper Age Augsburg Bavaria
    2250 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.9 - I5017
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    R437 300 BC Latin Tribe Praeneste

    EU K13 (Combined Kit)
    Closest population distances

    IT_Salento 0.522
    IT_Sannio 0.550
    IT_Apulia 0.638
    Sicily 0.653
    IT_Molise 0.696
    IT_Puglia 0.701
    IT_Campania 0.721
    IT_Abruzzo 0.738




    X3 Pugliese

    R437 k36 Map:


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    my new matches ...............I don't know enough about mokrin serbia bronze-age



    12. Copper Age Szigetszentmiklos Hungary
    2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.16 - I7043
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    40. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol
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    49. Copper Age Augsburg Bavaria
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    Early Bronze Age




    16. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.54 - MOK17
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    18. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.67 - MOK10
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    23. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.47 - MOK26
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    36. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.0 - MOK29
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    41. Illyrian / Dalmatian
    1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.39 - I4332
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    42. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.45 - MOK9
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    47. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.87 - MOK33
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    50. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.92 - MOK20
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    51. Illyrian / Dalmatian
    1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.0 - I4331
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    58. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.39 - MOK21
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    the paper is below

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...337v1.full.pdf

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    about post #3196

    ... 300 BC Latin R437 is a x3 Pugliese,
    #1 IT_Salento

    ... what say you ? :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    ... with Timelapse maps I get Late Bronze Age (no Bronze Age),
    ... but ... I do with the Regional Archaeogenetic maps:


    ... that’s y T R850, I think.

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