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**Salento** · 17-01-21, 04:53

Originally Posted by Salento

... totally siblings and one very close relative!

COLC2 PCA Plots - 20 samples - 3D Analysis:

(notice how COLC2 and COLC2a are as one spinning together, and COLC2b is close by the entire time)

... a minimum of three family members succumbed to an 1700 AD Pandemic, ...

we were not prepared and we are not as advanced as we think we are, though hopefully will all go through unscathed.

**Salento** · 17-01-21, 07:14

... R437 could make a decent candidate for my user-name,

... who knows if there were some Latins who resembled Apulians or if it is modern Apulians that resemble some ancient Latins

R437 scores 3 Apulia, Salento (at the top), is one of them :)

**Carlos** · 17-01-21, 15:13

Originally Posted by Salento

... R437 could make a decent candidate for my user-name,

... who knows if there were some Latins who resembled Apulians or if it is modern Apulians that resemble some ancient Latins

Probably. Rome was not Alabama in the 1940's. There came a time when the need was for statesmen not tribesmen. If even today we sometimes cannot know who our ancestor was from 300 years ago at that time, the plain people less so, perhaps the wealthy classes who would claim a glorious origin and even be related to mythology and hide what they were not interested in about their origin and even invent what they were interested in.

**Salento** · 17-01-21, 17:24

Originally Posted by Carlos

Probably. Rome was not Alabama in the 1940's. There came a time when the need was for statesmen not tribesmen. If even today we sometimes cannot know who our ancestor was from 300 years ago at that time, the plain people less so, perhaps the wealthy classes who would claim a glorious origin and even be related to mythology and hide what they were not interested in about their origin and even invent what they were interested in.

I emphasize samples that resemble the bulk of my ancestry, though I also post some of the more distant samples, which I consider not very important, but they're there for some reason.

... not all, but stories passed down in families originate from some events, or rumors based on those events.
I find these stories interesting, ... even those linked to Napoleon's Army.

... I could upgrade to 500+ samples, but then ... I would probably match a Gorilla :)

**Duarte** · 17-01-21, 17:44

Originally Posted by Salento

I emphasize samples that resemble the bulk of my ancestry, though I also post some of the more distant samples, which I consider not very important, but they're there for some reason.

... not all, but stories passed down in families originate from some events, or rumors based on those events.
I find these stories interesting, ... even those linked to Napoleon's Army.

... I could upgrade to 500+ samples, but then ... I would probably match a Gorilla :)

"You share 50 percent of your DNA with each of your parents. But with bananas, we share about 50 percent of our genes, which turns out to be only about 1 percent of our DNA," emails Mike Francis, a Ph. D.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/li...ercent%20of,D.

**Salento** · 17-01-21, 17:56

Originally Posted by Duarte

"You share 50 percent of your DNA with each of your parents. But with bananas, we share about 50 percent of our genes, which turns out to be only about 1 percent of our DNA," emails Mike Francis, a Ph. D.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/li...ercent%20of,D.

we ate bananas before playing Soccer to prevent Cramps :)

**Carlos** · 17-01-21, 18:30

Originally Posted by Salento

I emphasize samples that resemble the bulk of my ancestry, though I also post some of the more distant samples, which I consider not very important, but they're there for some reason.

... not all, but stories passed down in families originate from some events, or rumors based on those events.
I find these stories interesting, ... even those linked to Napoleon's Army.

... I could upgrade to 500+ samples, but then ... I would probably match a Gorilla :)

I assure you that with a gorilla you are not going to match because we do not have their samples in MTA. lol

There are people who are making sense of a familiar fact and not only by oral tradition but totally verified with the latest MTA samples and there it was, in that 500 and a half and thanks to MTA since other companies had not shown it at least until today.

**Carlos** · 17-01-21, 21:17

Updating my queue

549. Viking Invader Ridgeway Hill England
998 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.92 - VK261
Pict + Saxon (2.167)

550. Neolithic Orkney Islands
3220 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.94 - I7554
Etruscan + Balari (4.77)

551. Viking Denmark Odense
1058 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.97 - G507
Viking Danish (Genetic match)

552. Germanic Tribe Spreitenbach CWC Switzerland
2660 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.98 - MX190
Celt + Ostrogoth (2.61)

553. Pre-Slav Medieval Poland
950 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.0 - PCA133_Niemcza19
Gallo-Roman + Thracian (16.05)

554. Celtic Medieval Denmark
1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.02 - G658
Viking Icelandic + Celt (3.476)

555. Celtic Briton Gladiator York
250 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.02 - 6DRIF-23
Celt (4.685)

556. Viking Age Gotland Kopparsvik Sweden
975 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.04 - VK468
Viking Danish + Saxon (2.219)

557. Late Medieval Duomo San Nicola Sardinia
1450 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.04 - SNN001
Phoenician + Balari (13.79)

558. North Sea Medieval Denmark
1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.05 - G417
Viking Icelandic + Saxon (5.879)

559. Medieval Denmark
1315 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.11 - G943b
Scythian + Boii (10.77)

560. Bronze Age Czech Moravska Nova Ves
2100 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.13 - I5044
Celt + Belgae (3.685)

561. Medieval Denmark
1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.15 - G24
Saxon + Frank (4.389)

562. Bronze Age Female Haunstetten Germany
2030 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.17 - POST_99
Celt + Alemanni (5.151)

563. Neolithic Scotland
3220 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.21 - I7554
Etruscan + Balari (5.906)

564. Iron Age Besenyszog Hungary
180 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.21 - I20752
Celt + Vascones (7.71)

565. Bell Beaker Amesbury
2250 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.22 - I2566
Celt + Ostrogoth (7.015)

566. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
1002 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.23 - VK166
Viking Norwegian + Frank (3.825)

567. Medieval Netherlands Plague II
1360 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.24 - Ber45
Celt + Frank (3.473)

568. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.25 - R107
Roman (Genetic match)

569. Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.25 - 6DRIF-21
Viking Icelandic + Frank (5.366)

570. Early Bronze Age Northern England
1750 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.25 - I6680
Celt (4.482)

571. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon
1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.27 - SI-53
Crusader (Genetic match)

572. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon
1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.37 - SI-41
Crusader (Genetic match)

573. Neolithic Villedubert France
2780 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.38 - PEI2
Iberian + Balari (1.735)

574. Proto-Celtic Bronze Age Wehringen
2240 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.38 - WEHR_1192SkA
Celt + Saxon (2.881)

575. Copper Age Alburg-Lerchenhaid Straubing Bavaria
2225 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.39 - I3600
Vandal + Ostrogoth (1.638)

Having them, who would be without any of the parties?

**Salento** · 18-01-21, 06:29

... never mind, ... deleted

**torzio** · 18-01-21, 20:21

Originally Posted by Carlos

Updating my queue

549. Viking Invader Ridgeway Hill England
998 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.92 - VK261
Pict + Saxon (2.167)

550. Neolithic Orkney Islands
3220 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.94 - I7554
Etruscan + Balari (4.77)

551. Viking Denmark Odense
1058 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.97 - G507
Viking Danish (Genetic match)

552. Germanic Tribe Spreitenbach CWC Switzerland
2660 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.98 - MX190
Celt + Ostrogoth (2.61)

553. Pre-Slav Medieval Poland
950 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.0 - PCA133_Niemcza19
Gallo-Roman + Thracian (16.05)

554. Celtic Medieval Denmark
1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.02 - G658
Viking Icelandic + Celt (3.476)

555. Celtic Briton Gladiator York
250 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.02 - 6DRIF-23
Celt (4.685)

556. Viking Age Gotland Kopparsvik Sweden
975 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.04 - VK468
Viking Danish + Saxon (2.219)

557. Late Medieval Duomo San Nicola Sardinia
1450 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.04 - SNN001
Phoenician + Balari (13.79)

558. North Sea Medieval Denmark
1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.05 - G417
Viking Icelandic + Saxon (5.879)

559. Medieval Denmark
1315 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.11 - G943b
Scythian + Boii (10.77)

560. Bronze Age Czech Moravska Nova Ves
2100 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.13 - I5044
Celt + Belgae (3.685)

561. Medieval Denmark
1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.15 - G24
Saxon + Frank (4.389)

562. Bronze Age Female Haunstetten Germany
2030 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.17 - POST_99
Celt + Alemanni (5.151)

563. Neolithic Scotland
3220 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.21 - I7554
Etruscan + Balari (5.906)

564. Iron Age Besenyszog Hungary
180 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.21 - I20752
Celt + Vascones (7.71)

565. Bell Beaker Amesbury
2250 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.22 - I2566
Celt + Ostrogoth (7.015)

566. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
1002 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.23 - VK166
Viking Norwegian + Frank (3.825)

567. Medieval Netherlands Plague II
1360 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.24 - Ber45
Celt + Frank (3.473)

568. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.25 - R107
Roman (Genetic match)

569. Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.25 - 6DRIF-21
Viking Icelandic + Frank (5.366)

570. Early Bronze Age Northern England
1750 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.25 - I6680
Celt (4.482)

571. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon
1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.27 - SI-53
Crusader (Genetic match)

572. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon
1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.37 - SI-41
Crusader (Genetic match)

573. Neolithic Villedubert France
2780 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.38 - PEI2
Iberian + Balari (1.735)

574. Proto-Celtic Bronze Age Wehringen
2240 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.38 - WEHR_1192SkA
Celt + Saxon (2.881)

575. Copper Age Alburg-Lerchenhaid Straubing Bavaria
2225 BC - Genetic Distance: 25.39 - I3600
Vandal + Ostrogoth (1.638)

Having them, who would be without any of the parties?

that statue represents the Lycian people of SW Asia Minor

**Carlos** · 18-01-21, 21:27

@torzio

Here in the West I am more used to seeing eagles on national flags, current, old e.t.c. even when I have traveled to other countries. In the shields of surnames maybe you see more good mammals in the shield of the flag of Andalusia also there are two lions, but a mythological bug is not often seen as representative of some place.

**Salento** · 19-01-21, 08:24

Originally Posted by Carlos

@torzio

Here in the West I am more used to seeing eagles on national flags, current, old e.t.c. even when I have traveled to other countries. In the shields of surnames maybe you see more good mammals in the shield of the flag of Andalusia also there are two lions, but a mythological bug is not often seen as representatOnly because the White House was around the cornerive of some place.

sometimes animal symbols come out of nothing,

... a bunch of tourists taking pictures of a White Squirrel, ...
and one of them said it was a symbol of the United States of America, just because the White House was around the corner

**Salento** · 19-01-21, 08:46

I haven't changed much in the last 2,000 years,

... I still hang out once in a while where the world's power players are :)

**Carlos** · 19-01-21, 14:58

Originally Posted by Salento

sometimes animal symbols come out of nothing,

... a bunch of tourists taking pictures of a White Squirrel, ...
and one of them said it was a symbol of the United States of America, just because the White House was around the corner

The symbolism that could be thought of is that there has been a theft from the White House.

**Salento** · 20-01-21, 07:39

Medieval Age map vs 1850 Chieti Genetic Group:

**Carlos** · 20-01-21, 15:25

Kit Carlos
vs Kit: Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (R107)

Kit: Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (R107) vs Kit: Etruscan Civitavecchia (R473)

**Salento** · 21-01-21, 00:45

Originally Posted by Carlos

Kit Carlos
vs Kit: Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (R107)

Kit: Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (R107) vs Kit: Etruscan Civitavecchia (R473)

R107 Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi

... plots with Puglia / Abruzzo - I think.

**Carlos** · 21-01-21, 01:10

At Deep Dive I have the R105

**Salento** · 21-01-21, 01:35

Originally Posted by Carlos

At Deep Dive I have the R105

R105 and R107 could be related (chrome 8 - 20), someone in their family looked like a mix of you and me, ... he was obviously a Strong Good Looking Genius :)

**Carlos** · 21-01-21, 03:59

Originally Posted by Salento

R105 and R107 could be related (chrome 8 - 20), someone in their family looked like a mix of you and me, ... he was obviously a Strong Good Looking Genius :)

Without a doubt, a unique and exceptional being hated by a few and loved by many.

R105 vs R107

My chromatic. Perhaps nature will never have such a magnificent opportunity again.

On chromosome 8 I have an Iberian and Celtic group and on chromosome 20 I have a Gallo Roman

**Salento** · 21-01-21, 06:27

Originally Posted by Carlos

Without a doubt, a unique and exceptional being hated by a few and loved by many.

R105 vs R107

My chromatic. Perhaps nature will never have such a magnificent opportunity again.

On chromosome 8 I have an Iberian and Celtic group and on chromosome 20 I have a Gallo Roman

R107 on chrome 20 and 8

Chr. 20 :

Chr. 8 Village :

Gallo Roman SZ28:

**Salento** · 21-01-21, 21:55

Gallo Roman closest Group
... not, ... but what do I know ...

**Salento** · 22-01-21, 20:43

... Chrome sharing: Latin R437 + two Central Romans + two Foggia VK:

Chrome Sharing: Central Roman CL36 + Hellenic Roman SZ40

**torzio** · 23-01-21, 18:00

Loaded my sons data

1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro
930 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.445 - R1
Top 99 % match vs all users

2. Central Roman
630 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.549 - CL36 ?
Top 99 % match vs all users

3. Central Roman
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.369 - SZ43
Top 99 % match vs all users

4. Central Roman
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.084 - SZ36
Top 99 % match vs all users

5. Gallo-Roman
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.479 - SZ28 ?
Top 99 % match vs all users

6. North Roman Warrior
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.056 - NS3c
Top 99 % match vs all users

7. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance
1650 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.27 - R970
Top 99 % match vs all users

8. Roman Outlier Lombard Grave
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.306 - SZ37
Top 99 % match vs all users

9. Avar Szolad Hungary
700 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.516 - SZ1
Top 99 % match vs all users

10. Illyrian / Dalmatian
1200 BC - Genetic Distance: 8.625 - I3313
Top 99 % match vs all users

11. Scythian Southern Moldova
290 BC - Genetic Distance: 8.921 - scy197b
Top 99 % match vs all users

12. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.056 - R36
Top 99 % match vs all users

13. Scythian Southern Moldova
270 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.109 - scy192
Top 99 % match vs all users

Roman + Illyrian (3.211)
Gaul + Roman (4.018)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (4.365)
Al-Andalus + Roman (5.322)
Roman (5.549)
Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (7.168)
Gallo-Roman (7.479)
Illyrian (8.625)

others beyond 13.00

mine below

Roman + Illyrian (5.912)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (6.381)
Gaul + Roman (6.586)
Gaul + Roman Hispania (6.926)
Gaul + Gallo-Roman (7.254)
Gallo-Roman (7.332)
Illyrian (8.937)
Roman (9.695)
Gaul (11.97)
Roman Hispania (13.23)

**Salento** · 24-01-21, 05:32

... matching post #3425 (Torzio) ... from my deep dive ‘Genetic Social Groups’ ... meet some of my ancient cousins :)

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