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Salento · Jun 16, 2020

:cool-v: @Duarte

your mtDNA seems to trace the entire migration into America.

You mentioned 45.000 year old Ust'-Ishim Man, one of the early modern humans to inhabit Western Siberia, y K-M526, mtDNA R

Ust'-Ishim GedMatch # F999935

one to one comparison:

S vs Ust'-Ishim

Larg. Segm = 3.5 cM - (HIR) = 10.2 cM

Duarte · Jun 16, 2020

Salento said:
:cool-v: @Duarte

your mtDNA seems to trace the entire migration into America.

You mentioned 45.000 year old Ust'-Ishim Man, one of the early modern humans to inhabit Western Siberia, y K-M526, mtDNA R

Ust'-Ishim GedMatch # F999935

one to one comparison:

S vs Ust'-Ishim

Larg. Segm = 3.5 cM - (HIR) = 10.2 cM

Thank you Salento. In fact, it looks like that. An old migration route that reached America. Later I will access Gedmatch and see what my autosomal matches with these old samples would look like and post here in response to your post.

Carlos · Jun 16, 2020

GEDmatch^® Autosomal One-to-one Comparison - V1.0
S vs Ust'-Ishim
F999935

Largest segment = 3.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 15.5 cM (0.433 Pct)

5 shared segments found for this comparison.

619629 SNPs used for this comparison.

51.567 Pct SNPs are full identical

Duarte · Jun 16, 2020

Hi folks.
Me and Ust'-Ishim:

Palermo Trapani · Jun 16, 2020

Salento/Carlos/Duarte: My 1 to 1(Ust-Ishim)

Duarte · Jun 16, 2020

Palermo Trapani said:
Salento/Carlos/Duarte: My 1 to 1(Ust-Ishim)

View attachment 12198

Cool

Palermo Trapani · Jun 16, 2020

Duarte/Carlos: Have you both looked at La Brana-Spain (Kit 999915)?

Duarte · Jun 16, 2020

Palermo Trapani said:
Duarte/Carlos: Have you both looked at La Brana-Spain (Kit 999915)?

Hi Trapani.
I not share autosomal segments with La Brana:

These are my best ‘Gedmatch Deep Dive’ :

F999937 (NE1, Hungary, 7.2ky) [GEDmatch Xfer]

Largest segment = 5.3 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 34.7 cM (0.969 Pct)

10 shared segments found for this comparison.

621609 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.710 Pct SNPs are full identical

Comparison took 2.082 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.128 cpu seconds.

F999933 (BR2, Hungary, 3.2ky) [GEDmatch Xfer]

Largest segment = 4.4 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 24.2 cM (0.675 Pct)

7 shared segments found for this comparison.

624328 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.730 Pct SNPs are full identical

Comparison took 1.958 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.100 cpu seconds.

F999918 (Loschbour, Lux., 8ky) [GEDmatch Xfer]

Largest segment = 5.3 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 22.3 cM (0.622 Pct)

6 shared segments found for this comparison.

630946 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.449 Pct SNPs are full identical

Comparison took 2.882 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.136 cpu seconds.

F999916 (LBK, Stuttgart, 7ky) [GEDmatch Xfer]

Largest segment = 4.0 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 20.9 cM (0.584 Pct)

6 shared segments found for this comparison.

626993 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.681 Pct SNPs are full identical

Comparison took 1.216 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.070 cpu seconds.

Salento · Jun 17, 2020

I don’t get La Brana either, with or without the 1

if I don’t ReMeMbEr this:
change “value = 7” with 1

I’ll get nothing to very little

NE1 Larg. Segm. 4.3 cM - HIR 38.8 cM

BR2 Larg. Segm. 3.9 cM - HIR 19.9 cM

Duarte · Jun 17, 2020

Salento said:
I don’t get La Brana either, with or without the 1

if I don’t ReMeMbEr this:
change “value = 7” with 1

I’ll get nothing to very little

NE1

BR2

Salento · Jun 17, 2020

my Archaic matches at Default Setting.

fyi: the first row is a Neanderthal, the second a Denisova

... my Neanderthal is Strong :grin:

Palermo Trapani · Jun 17, 2020

Hi again guys: Here are my 3 best GEDMATCH Deep dives. Loschbour is interesting. You guys are much more in tune with the Y-DNA Haplogroup detail than I am. Loschbour is a WHG and I-M423 (I2A1b) which came from I2A1, which split from I2A. I2A2 (I-M436) split from I2A which is where my I-M223 split from (I2a2a). See Maciamo's article linked below. So at some point, I am going to have to do that Big Y-DNA analysis that you guys recommended a while back, just can't justify it right now, but in the fall will look into it. Hopefully, MTA will get these samples and we can see how they fit with our other Deep dives over there.

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I2_Y-DNA.shtml

Duarte · Jun 17, 2020

Palermo Trapani said:
Hi again guys: Here are my 3 best GEDMATCH Deep dives. Loschbour is interesting. You guys are much more in tune with the Y-DNA Haplogroup detail than I am. Loschbour is a WHG and I-M423 (I2A1b) which came from I2A1, which split from I2A. I2A2 (I-M436) split from I2A which is where my I-M223 split from (I2a2a). See Maciamo's article linked below. So at some point, I am going to have to do that Big Y-DNA analysis that you guys recommended a while back, just can't justify it right now, but in the fall will look into it. Hopefully, MTA will get these samples and we can see how they fit with our other Deep dives over there.

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I2_Y-DNA.shtml

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Carlos · Jun 17, 2020

Palermo Trapani said:
Duarte/Carlos: Have you both looked at La Brana-Spain (Kit 999915)?

Nothing La Braña.

El Mirón number kit is in Gedmatch?

Carlos · Jun 17, 2020

Comparing Kit XXXXXX (Carlos) [FTDNA] and F999937 (NE1, Hungary, 7.2ky) [GEDmatch Xfer]

Largest segment = 4.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 9.1 cM (0.255 Pct)

2 shared segments found for this comparison.

607850 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.803 Pct SNPs are full identical

Comparison took 0.949 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.061 cpu seconds.

Comparing Kit XXXXXXX (Carlos) [FTDNA] and F999933 (BR2, Hungary, 3.2ky) [GEDmatch Xfer]

Largest segment = 4.0 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 4.0 cM (0.112 Pct)

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

610479 SNPs used for this comparison.

55.101 Pct SNPs are full identical

Comparison took 0.350 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.060 cpu seconds.

Ver: May 29 2020 15:12:55

Duarte · Jun 17, 2020

Carlos said:
Comparing Kit XXXXXX (Carlos) [FTDNA] and F999937 (NE1, Hungary, 7.2ky) [GEDmatch Xfer]

Largest segment = 4.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 9.1 cM (0.255 Pct)

2 shared segments found for this comparison.

607850 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.803 Pct SNPs are full identical

Comparison took 0.949 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.061 cpu seconds.

Comparing Kit XXXXXXX (Carlos) [FTDNA] and F999933 (BR2, Hungary, 3.2ky) [GEDmatch Xfer]

Largest segment = 4.0 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 4.0 cM (0.112 Pct)

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

610479 SNPs used for this comparison.

55.101 Pct SNPs are full identical

Comparison took 0.350 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.060 cpu seconds.

Ver: May 29 2020 15:12:55

Palermo Trapani · Jun 17, 2020

Carlos said:
Nothing La Braña.

El Mirón number kit is in Gedmatch?

I am not sure. What is El Miron's Kit #?

Palermo Trapani · Jun 17, 2020

Carlos said:
Nothing La Braña.

El Mirón number kit is in Gedmatch?

Try M225927. I got this from a eupedia forum started by Lebrok on 18 July 2017. So I am going over to see if it is still there.

Carlos: El Miron's Kit is on Gedmatch as I ran my comparison to El Miron. I don't share any segments with that sample. Maybe you and Duarte do?

Carlos · Jun 17, 2020

Palermo Trapani said:
Try M225927. I got this from a eupedia forum started by Lebrok on 18 July 2017. So I am going over to see if it is still there.

Carlos: El Miron's Kit is on Gedmatch as I ran my comparison to El Miron. I don't share any segments with that sample. Maybe you and Duarte do?

El Mirón nothing. How strange, I thought I would get something

I'm going to try Villabruna

Comparing Kit XXXXXX (Carlos) [FTDNA] and M236020 (Villabruna Epigravettian) [Migration - V3 - M]

Segment threshold size will be adjusted dynamically between 200 and 400 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM

Largest segment = 3.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 3.2 cM (0.088 Pct)

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

266250 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.761 Pct SNPs are full identical

Comparison took 0.247 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.038 cpu seconds.

Duarte · Jun 17, 2020

Palermo Trapani said:
Try M225927. I got this from a eupedia forum started by Lebrok on 18 July 2017. So I am going over to see if it is still there.

Carlos: El Miron's Kit is on Gedmatch as I ran my comparison to El Miron. I don't share any segments with that sample. Maybe you and Duarte do?

Hi Trapani
I think this kit number is from Villabruna Epigravettian:
GEDmatch^® Autosomal One-to-one Comparison - V1.0

M236020 (Villabruna Epigravettian) [Migration - V3 - M]

No shared DNA segments found

274878 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.256 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.040 cpu seconds.

Using Vahaduo Dodecad K12b Ancient, Villabruna is far way from me:

Distance to:	Duarte
42.22186282	Villabruna

This is Villabruna modern autosomal correspondence in Vahaduo Dodecad K12b Updated Spreadsheet:

Distance to:	Villabruna
9.93729339	Swedish
11.03964673	Norwegian
17.12019568	Sorb_Lusatia
18.37182081	German
18.47995942	Belorussian
18.60727277	Lithuanian
18.89892060	PL_Mazovia
19.45232634	Southwest_Rus
19.70730321	Dutch
19.75250617	Ukrainian
19.88677450	British_Isles
20.22562236	Orkney
20.29861572	Rus_Tver
20.33679424	Rus_Smolensk
20.64468697	Rus_Kostroma
21.00451856	CEU30
21.12060132	Orcadian
21.12389642	English
21.51791347	Irish
21.57892027	Mixed_Germanic
21.70833480	Argyll
21.79507972	English_Kent
22.27098336	Rus_Pinega
22.67804665	British
23.11371454	Hungarians

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