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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    What's interesting is that I consistently get something (N)W in calculators, and my parents don't get that much, even if overall I'm a bit more Southern shifted in relation to them. For example, I score above average (North Italy as reference) for Atlantic_Med in K12b, above average for Atlantic in K15, and FTDNA and MyHeritage keep giving me relatively high %s related to UK, such 32% in the former and something around 30% in the latter. I don't score for British in 23andMe, however, Brittany (France) shows up in there as a Likely Match. Angela suggested this matching in 23andMe could be explained by some Gallic ancestry. It does seem possible.
    However, among old samples, one of the "Illyrians" tends to show up as my first in similarity tools, including MTA.
    Hi @Regio X. Out of topic. Do you believe that Alberto Fernandez's ancestors came by boat and that mine came from the jungle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Hi @Regio X. Out of topic. Do you believe that Alberto Fernandez's ancestors came by boat and that mine came from the jungle?
    Duarte, "our" ancestors. Mine were from an Araucaria moist forest.
    It brings me to a fun story, but an innocent one. Several years ago, this far Italian cousin of mine, a very nice guy by the way, learned that he has several relatives across ocean, and decided to visit the country. A little before the trip, he asked me for tips on how to deal with the wild/venomous animals he would find, or something. Apparently he was preparing for a kind of Safari.

    As for Fernández, what a regrettable comment, to say the least! As a matter of fact, a worthy comment from his neighbor leader, if you know what I mean. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Duarte, "our" ancestors. Mine were from an Araucaria moist forest.
    It brings me to a fun story, but an innocent one. Several years ago, this far Italian cousin of mine, a very nice guy by the way, learned that he has several relatives across ocean, and decided to visit the country. A little before the trip, he asked me for tips on how to deal with the wild/venomous animals he would find, or something. Apparently he was preparing for a kind of Safari.

    As for Fernández, what a regrettable comment, to say the least! As a matter of fact, a worthy comment from his neighbor leader, if you know what I mean. :)

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    Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
    (Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)
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    1. Byzantine Roman Warrior
    605 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.321 - NS3b
    Top 99 % match vs all users


    2. Central Roman
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.333 - SZ36
    Top 99 % match vs all users


    3. Central Roman
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.516 - SZ43
    Top 99 % match vs all users


    4. Avar Szolad Hungary
    700 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.351 - SZ1
    Top 98 % match vs all users


    5. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro
    930 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.479 - R1
    Top 99 % match vs all users


    6. Roman Outlier Lombard Grave
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.22 - SZ37
    Top 99 % match vs all users


    7. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy
    905 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.52 - R60
    Top 98 % match vs all users


    8. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi
    500 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.75 - R107
    Top 99 % match vs all users


    9. Morisco Post-Reconquista Granada
    1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.85 - I7424
    Top 99 % match vs all users


    10. Skeleton Lake Traveller - Hellenic
    1805 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.32 - I3404
    Top 97 % match vs all users


    11. Central Roman
    630 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.11 - CL36 ?
    Top 97 % match vs all users


    12. Ancient Middle Helladic Elati-Logkas Greece
    1861 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.14 - Log04_wgs
    Top 96 % match vs all users


    13. Ancient Middle Helladic Elati-Logkas Greece
    1861 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.19 - Log04_wgs_trim5bp
    Top 96 % match vs all users


    14. Ancient Middle Helladic Elati-Logkas Greece
    1861 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.25 - Log02_wgs
    Top 97 % match vs all users


    15. Skeleton Lake Traveller - Hellenic
    1805 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.38 - I3348
    Top 99 % match vs all users


    16. Roman Outlier Lombard Grave
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.07 - SZ31
    Top 99 % match vs all users


    17. Ancient Middle Helladic Elati-Logkas Greece
    1861 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.17 - Log02_cap
    Top 98 % match vs all users


    18. Central Roman
    580 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.5 - CL121
    Top 96 % match vs all users


    19. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello
    100 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.64 - R114
    Top 97 % match vs all users


    20. Gallo-Roman
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.86 - SZ28 ?
    Top 95 % match vs all users


    21. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
    1350 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.1 - R1290
    Top 97 % match vs all users


    22. Roman Villa Tarragona
    350 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.44 - I6491
    Top 95 % match vs all users


    23. Medieval San Lorenzo Foggia Italy
    1240 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.71 - VK535
    Top 97 % match vs all users


    24. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance
    1650 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.78 - R970
    Top 97 % match vs all users


    25. Central Roman
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.79 - SZ32 ?
    Top 97 % match vs all users


    23andMe results = 99.2% Greek, 0.8% Sardinian.

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    Your closest Ancient populations...
    Roman
    Roman (8.333)
    Gallo-Roman + Roman (9.885)
    Gaul + Roman (9.97)
    Roman + Illyrian (10.44)
    Roman Hispania + Roman (11.3)
    Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (13.21)
    Gallo-Roman (13.86)
    Illyrian (15.89)
    Roman Hispania (17.16)
    Gaul (17.85)

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    … CL36 as “Ancient Relative” …

    God’s Kit = 23v5

    … one to one VS deep dive:


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    Hello, here are results:
    Gallo Roman - Visigoths - Roman Hispania -Illyrians - Al-Andalus.


    Visigoth + Roman Hispania (8.387)
    Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (8.844)
    Roman Hispania + Illyrian (10.37)
    Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (10.86)
    Al-Andalus + Gallo-Roman (11.37)
    Gallo-Roman (11.8)
    Illyrian (12.96)
    Roman Hispania (13.26)
    Al-Andalus (13.43)
    Visigoth (14.65)

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    I thought the ancient Picene sample R1 was a woman

    she has O ydna

    Fathers mtdna ... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ... K1a4p
    Mum paternal line ... R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
    Wife paternal line ... R1a-Z282

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    I thought the ancient Picene sample R1 was a woman

    she has O ydna

    maybe MTA is mistaken, … and there’s no y O Haplogroup in Ancient Italy:






    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/suppl/2019/11/06/366.6466.708.DC1/aay6826_Antonio_SM.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    maybe MTA is mistaken, … and there’s no y O Haplogroup in Ancient Italy:






    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/suppl/2019/11/06/366.6466.708.DC1/aay6826_Antonio_SM.pdf

    her marker is most likely O2a2-P201 has its majority in the Naiman tribe of Kazakhs ................they did arrive in modern Hungaria in the bronze age .............I think we need to confirm this .............Naiman tribe are in Altai and Argyn mountains which has a lot of L and T ydna as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    I thought the ancient Picene sample R1 was a woman
    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post

    she has O ydna





    We scrupulously check elsewhere as well, but MTA remains a little game with no credibility.






    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    her marker is most likely O2a2-P201 has its majority in the Naiman tribe of Kazakhs ................they did arrive in modern Hungaria in the bronze age .............I think we need to confirm this .............Naiman tribe are in Altai and Argyn mountains which has a lot of L and T ydna as well


    Where is the source that Naiman tribe of Kazakhs arrived in modern Hungaria in the Bronze age?

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    Neanderthal Q-Matchin

    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Neanderthal Q-Matching:



    ... it matches the Archaic Matches @ 0.9 cM

    Salento, I think that Q-score of 55 should be rather significant considering the Neanderthal sample would be so distant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheal View Post
    Salento, I think that Q-score of 55 should be rather significant considering the Neanderthal sample would be so distant
    @Wheal … compare with the free one-to-one,
    S vs Neanderthal ( … red settings) (my Raw-Data: 23v5) :


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    Not sure what you want me to compare to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheal View Post
    Not sure what you want me to compare to
    I was just comparing Q-Matching vs One-to-One classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    her marker is most likely O2a2-P201 has its majority in the Naiman tribe of Kazakhs ................they did arrive in modern Hungaria in the bronze age .............I think we need to confirm this .............Naiman tribe are in Altai and Argyn mountains which has a lot of L and T ydna as well
    … R1 is a Girl !!! (according to my PC)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    … R1 is a Girl !!! (according to my PC)


    yes...she is

    i wrote to them to see if this ydna represents her "father"

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    ??? … Otzi vs S, 1-to-1 @100 SNPs window size threshold, default cM (7) and Mismatch-Bunching Limit:
    3.9 Generations (with 25 SNPs: 2.6 generations)




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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ??? … Otzi vs S, 1-to-1 @100 SNPs window size threshold, default cM (7) and Mismatch-Bunching Limit:
    3.9 Generations (with 25 SNPs: 2.6 generations)





    mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ??? … Otzi vs S, 1-to-1 @100 SNPs window size threshold, default cM (7) and Mismatch-Bunching Limit:
    3.9 Generations (with 25 SNPs: 2.6 generations)



    Its not reliable. MyTrueAncestry is not and a Gedmatch result with such a few SNPs isn't as well. I mean 100 SNP per cM, that just means the coverage of the Oetzi genome is bad, it doesn't prove your close relationship. I mean
    Relic French King Louis XVI 1793 AD

    sample is no 3rd cousin of mine, even though, according to MTA, he shares as much as some proven 3rd cousins with me.

    Danish Gaelic Viking Iceland 935 AD

    is 2nd cousin level with 194 cM. Its ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverman View Post
    Its not reliable. MyTrueAncestry is not and a Gedmatch result with such a few SNPs isn't as well. I mean 100 SNP per cM, that just means the coverage of the Oetzi genome is bad, it doesn't prove your close relationship. I mean
    Relic French King Louis XVI 1793 AD

    sample is no 3rd cousin of mine, even though, according to MTA, he shares as much as some proven 3rd cousins with me.

    Danish Gaelic Viking Iceland 935 AD

    is 2nd cousin level with 194 cM. Its ridiculous.
    … OK, though … I didn’t change the default GedMatch cM (7 cM), … so it’s not ridiculous, it could be basic shared ancestry, most Italians get a piece of Otzi DNA ancestry.

    ... from my NagGeo results: Italy & Southern Europe: 91% - The Iceman, Otzi, is a descendant from the first farmers to have arrived in the Italian peninsula, which may have harbored remnant hunter - gatherer populations during the Pleistocene ...
    'Genographic Project'

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    Over the past year, I have collected raw data files and Ancient Sample Breakdown results from many countries.




    I aggregated these based on placement on the ASB wheel. I did not deal with the percentage value or the deep dive results, only with the summary of the matches with the population genetically significant, archaic samples and the statistical data sets visible from them. I can show it in an Excel spreadsheet.

    The order of archaic populations is my own subjective opinion about the role of the present-day population in the archaic composition of each ancient culture - more precisely, the archaic population definitions of mytrueancestry. The W column shows the total number of samples I have today from that population.

    That is, if we look at the English today, I have 25 of these ASBs. Of these, 18 were Celtic in first place on the ASB wheel and 5 were Celtic in second place. 1 in fourth place and 1 in fifth. Column V shows how many present-day samples had no hits from that particular ancient population on the ASB round.




    This is how the tables should be interpreted. I think the lines are especially interesting. If any of you may show your own ASB, I will add to that particular population database today and thus increase representativeness. I only made an excel spreadsheet for those populations today that have at least 10 samples. It is currently available in English, Bulgarian, Danish, French, Hungarian, German, Norwegian, Italian and Spanish. I am curious about your opinions. Attachment 12765

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