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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    The interesting thing would be to compare in Gedmatch my kit with Jutland Bronze Age

    How do I know if my match with Age Bronze Denmark is by mitochondrial DNA or by Y DNA?
    In such kind of analysis you can't. No on-line tool gives you percentages or population distances to ancient or modern pops using Y-DNA or mtDNA, please don't talk such things... Only autosomal DNA is used.
    BTW if you uploaded for example FTDNA or MyHeritage or Ancestry kit there don't have sex chromosomes snps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    I criticize openly under mine nick. You could be suspicious if I theoretically create new account and post as sock acting as average user...
    You should have told @Duarte.
    Instead you called us stupid.
    Not everyone knows what you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    You should have told @Duarte.
    Instead you called us stupid.
    Not everyone knows what you do.
    Ok leaving me aside, my statement about hilarious cM number for ancient matches is still true. Unless someone could give plausible explanation that this website tool creates new method of "matching" which gives you similar number of shared centrimorgans with thousand years old samples, as for some real distant cousins (look on table few posts above).

    Simply I don't understand why peopel don't notice that at once. And to be honest first I saw comments about it on Ancestry FB group. There some users started to doubt about those high values. So it isn't only me and first.

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    Well, searching for info about ancient DNA matches, I stumbled upon a comment (from 2014) on dna-explained by someone who reported sharing a segment as large as 10.6 cM with an ancient sample (F999913 (Clovis Anzick-1)) on Gedmatch, so who knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    Ok leaving me aside, my statement about hilarious cM number for ancient matches is still true. Unless someone could give plausible explanation that this website tool creates new method of "matching" which gives you similar number of shared centrimorgans with thousand years old samples, as for some real distant cousins (look on table few posts above).

    Simply I don't understand why peopel don't notice that at once. And to be honest first I saw comments about it on Ancestry FB group. So it isn't only me and first.
    I value your input and contribution and I wish that you and other people who know the subject would Post more often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TardisBlue View Post
    Well, searching for info about ancient DNA matches, I stumbled upon a comment (from 2014) on dna-explained by someone who reported sharing a segment as large as 10.6 cM with an ancient sample (F999913 (Clovis Anzick-1)) on Gedmatch, so who knows?
    Very important is if someone check using standard values in one-to-one or Ancient Matches on Gedmatch. If you lower treshold you can match with many samples but it is only for fun, not for real.
    Some people could have higher matches with ancients using standard values of checking, but there are exceptions, not rule as for nearly every user using this website, and not in such high amounts (high number of cM and high number of matches, only for amusement of customers).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    If you refer to me, I don't make products related to ancient genomes. So it isn't my competitor.

    First thing. They use for modern population distances on 99% K15 Eurogenes.
    Why K15? Simply compare your single distances (for modern populations) and population ordering on the list, in mytruancestry and K15. Selling people results from free K15 is not good practice, isn't it?

    Moreover I simply can't resist if someone deliberately fools people and sell them "upgrades" which shows fake cM values for "ancient matches".

    If you don't agree with me please explain how it is possible to have ancient match with few thousands years sample, with cM level equaling some close cousin:) I'm waiting for your scholar opinion...Above I posted opinion of guy more experienced than me in such things.
    Hi Polako.
    I recognize. I am a stupid.



    But, as said Salento, your highness do not needed to offend everybody. It would suffice offend me directly :)
    Nice to see that you edited your offensive post.
    Congratulations by this act of nobility.
    Now, enjoy, and dislike all my posts until my prestige seems China’s flag.
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    Let's separate out the two major "types" of analysis offered.

    One is general similarity to ancient samples.

    From what I've read here and on other sites, the results are close to what could be obtained if one used G25?

    Does Eurogenes charge for access to it?


    I haven't paid any money for mytrueancestry, don't know what it costs. Is it extortionate for the service of running something we could run ourselves?


    The second "service" is for what I assume is IBD analysis? If that's the case, looking at the results posted above, they are much too high, even if they are totals of many smaller segments.

    I think the thing to do, if you've paid for the service, is write to them asking for an explanation.


    Just generally speaking, Ralph and Coop were able to track segments back to 2300 BC, but they were very small.

    https://journals.plos.org/plosbiolog...l.pbio.1001555

    " Our simulations showed that we have good power to detect long IBD blocks (probability of detection 50% for blocks longer than 2 cM, rising to 98% for blocks longer than 4 cM), and a low false positive rate (discussed further in the Materials and Methodssection). "

    Unless they have a good explanation, this is very amateur stuff, and they should quit marketing it as IBD analysis.

    I don't care who MLukas is, but if he doesn't stop insulting people he's going to be out of here shortly.

    Given his aggressive, boorish behavior, he could very well be Eurogenes, but it's immaterial.


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    I'm far from an expert on the subject material but this MLukas dude seems to have a lot invested in this topic. What are his qualifications? I'm just curious

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    Eurogenes charge $20 to obtain your G25
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    Quote Originally Posted by matty74 View Post
    I'm far from an expert on the subject material but this MLukas dude seems to have a lot invested in this topic. What are his qualifications? I'm just curious
    Basically Angela post earlier proves what I said. And my posts are related to her second part.
    I'm leaving this discussion, leaving also you with my opinions and what is quoted below. Now you can rethink a little or not. It's up to you.

    And sorry if someone feels like Duarte. But I don't call him that in my post. What was edited was related to my guess who is real author of this service, but later I decided to remove it. Just it.


    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...l=1#post574332

    The second "service" is for what I assume is IBD analysis? If that's the case, looking at the results posted above, they are much too high, even if they are totals of many smaller segments.

    I think the thing to do, if you've paid for the service, is write to them asking for an explanation.


    Just generally speaking, Ralph and Coop were able to track segments back to 2300 BC, but they were very small.

    https://journals.plos.org/plosbiolog...l.pbio.1001555

    " Our simulations showed that we have good power to detect long IBD blocks (probability of detection 50% for blocks longer than 2 cM, rising to 98% for blocks longer than 4 cM), and a low false positive rate (discussed further in the Materials and Methodssection). "

    Unless they have a good explanation, this is very amateur stuff, and they should quit marketing it as IBD analysis.

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    It really seems odd.
    I prepared a text to post here, but people with similar arguments did it before me. Better this way. :)

    @Jovialis
    With your AncestryDNA, your longest block shared with RISE397, from Bronze Age Armenia, would have 10.58 cM. The GedMatch kit of RISE397 is supposedly M497255 (https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...th-kit-numbers).
    Could you try a One-to-one at GedMatch, for comparison?
    Thanks in advance.

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    Are these results more of a case of shared ethnicity or genetic affinity vs actual ancestry?

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    I will look at this and perhaps try it out and compare.

    http://www.lm-genetics.ovh/

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    I don't do this sort of thing so I have no records for the ancient samples.

    Does anyone have a link for a place where the gedmatch kit numbers are listed for the ancient samples not only by number but by place, i.e. Szolad, Collegno, Illyrian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I don't do this sort of thing so I have no records for the ancient samples.

    Does anyone have a link for a place where the gedmatch kit numbers are listed for the ancient samples not only by number but by place, i.e. Szolad, Collegno, Illyrian?
    I do not know, but maybe this can help you, Angela:

    https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map...6/51.000/2.000

    And this too:

    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    GEDmatch, list of ancient samples with kit numbers.


    Here are kit numbers of ancient samples on Gedmatch, from my database. Please post kits with description of samples, and all you know about these samples.

    Sorry, I didn't have time to put it in a coherent database.

    M825671 I1293 Iran Mesolithic [9100-8600 BC] HV2 J2a-M410>CTS1085
    M595455 I1670 Iran Chalcolithic [4839-4617 BC] U3a'c -
    M902476 I1662 Iran Chalcolithic [4831-4612 BC] K1a12a J2a-M410>PF5008
    M155294 I1674 Iran Chalcolithic [3972-3800 BC] I1c G1-M342>GG372
    M873184 I1665 Iran Chalcolithic [3956-3796 BC] U7a -
    M381564 F38 Iran EIA [971-832 BC] N1a3a R1b-Z2103>L584>Y23838
    T637158 I1955 Iran Late Medieval [1430–1485 AD] U1a1 -
    M417230 I1407 Armenia Chalcolithic [4350-3700 BC] H L1a-M27
    M133098 I1409 Armenia Chalcolithic [4229-3985 BC] U4a -
    M162111 I1632 Armenia Chalcolithic [4230-4000 BC] K1a8 L1a-M27
    M734029 I1634 Armenia Chalcolithic [4330-4060 BC] H2a1 L1a-M27
    M731608 I1633 Armenia EBA [2619-2410 BC] H1u -
    M340653 I1635 Armenia EBA [2619-2465 BC] X2f R1b-M343>L389>V1636
    M487536 RISE413 Armenia MBA [1906-1698 BC] T2c1f R1b-M343>L389>P297
    M124777 RISE416 Armenia MBA [1643-1445 BC] K1a17a E-M84
    M575241 RISE423 Armenia MBA [1402-1211 BC] T2a E-M84>CTS1096 (Y5412-, Y14899-, PF6751-)
    M578721 RISE408 Armenia LBA [1209-1009 BC] I5c J2b-M102>L283>CTS3681
    M263493 RISE412 Armenia LBA [1193-945 BC] U4c1a -
    M062682 RISE396 Armenia LBA [1192-937 BC] H6b -
    M497255 RISE397 Armenia LBA [1048-855 BC] T1a2 R1b-Z2103>Z2106>BY3296
    M471006 I1705 Jordan EBA [2198-1966 BC] H14a J1-P58>Z2324
    M682666 I1730 Jordan EBA [2489-2299 BC] R0a1a J2b-M205>PF7331
    M987765 Tep001 Anatolia Early Neolithic [7014 BC] K1a n/a
    M830273 Tep003 Anatolia Early Neolithic [7174 BC] N1b1a G2a-P287>P15>PF3159
    M300627 Kum4 Anatolia EBA [3500–2800 BC] n/a -
    M733797 RISE109 Unetice EBA Poland [1954-1772 BC] U4 -
    M453254 RISE154 Unetice EBA Poland [1925-1765 BC] K1a4a1 -
    M239638 RISE586 Unetice EBA Czech Republic [?] K1b1a -
    M484113 RISE139 Unetice Poland [2135-1923 BC] U2e1f1 n/a
    M069028 RISE145 Unetice Poland [2188-1958 BC] H6a1b -
    M483824 RISE598 Lithuania LBA [908-485 BC] H2a2 R1a-L62>M417
    M669778 RISE1 Corded Ware Poland [2865-2578 BC] K1b1a1 R1b-M343>L754
    M191719 RISE431 Corded Ware Proto-Unetice Poland [2286-2048 BC] T2e R1a-M417
    M631469 RISE349 Hungary MBA [2034-1748 BC] T2b3 -
    M375165 RISE373 Maros Hungary [1886-1696 BC] K1a2a -
    M974598 RISE374 Maros Hungary [1866-1619 BC] T2 G2a-P287>P15>PF3177
    M130094 RISE61 Battle Axe Denmark [2650-2300 BC] J1c4 R1a-M417>Z284>CTS8401
    M370663 I0419 Potapovka [2200-1900 BC] U2e1h R1a-M417>Z93
    M630274 I0432 Poltavka outlier [2925-2536 BC] U5a1c R1a-M417>Z94
    M214301 RISE595 Montenegro LBA [?] U5a2 -
    M836655 RISE596 Montenegro IA [?] X1'2'3 -
    M030961 K8 Bulgaria IA [450-400 BC] n/a -
    M212372 P192-1 Bulgaria IA [800-500 BC] U3b E-M78>Z1919
    M540478 T2G2 Bulgaria IA [850-700 BC] HV(16311) -
    M777769 V2 Bulgaria LBA [1500-1100 BC] n/a -
    T699825
    T135721
    T319214
    Европа
    M040853 Костенки-14 -объединение старого и нового сиквенса
    M384220 GoyetQ116-1
    M561778 Vestonice16
    M225927 el Miron
    M236020 Villabruna (WHG) геномы отсюда
    M276583 la Brana (WHG) - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M645731 I0017-Motala12 - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M325047 I1507-KO1 (HungaryWHG) - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M600205 Bichon
    Африка
    M284914 Mota1
    EHG и хвалынцы
    M643041 I0061 OleniyOstrov - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M218547 I0124 Samara EHG
    M340431 I0122 Khvalynsk
    M737081 Khvalynsk EHG merged (I0122+I0124+I0433)
    M925976 AfontovaGora3+AfontovaGora2
    Иран и Ближний Восток -от мезолита до бронзового века (тема):
    По одному наиболее качественно прочитанному от каждой группы (натуфийцев объединил, итоговый геном процентов на 80 принадлежит I1072. Hotu загружать не стал, слишком плохо прочитан).
    Natufian_merged M041601
    I0867-LevantN M115616
    I1706-LevantBA M291439
    I1290-IranN M967114
    I1671-IranLN M937770
    I1661-IranChL M124870
    I1631-ArmeniaChL M926386
    I1658-ArmeniaEBA M536324
    I1656-ArmeniaMLBA M182163
    I1584-AnatolianChL M091434
    M677694 Satsurblia CHG
    M603839 M551062 Kotias CHG
    Неолит (северо-западная Анатолия):
    M897077 I0707 Anatolian EF
    M936428 I0709 Anatolian EF
    M754279 I0746 Anatolian EF
    M411713 I1583 Anatolian EF
    Европейский неолит
    M572125 I0054 LBK - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M512608 I0100 LBK - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M226800 I0172 EsperstedtMN - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M405327 I1506-NE1 (HungaryEN) - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M923528 I1496-NE6 (HungaryEN) - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M249240 I1495-NE7 (HungaryEN) - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M261272 I1497 CO1 (Hungary MN) - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M641265 I0410 SpainEN - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M471235 I0412 SpainEN - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M815035 I0406 SpainMN - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M979495 I0408 SpainMN - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M547763 I1300 Spain Chalcolithic
    M849224 ATP2
    M681225 I1502 BR1
    M427312 Ballinahatty IrelandNE
    M232268 (Rathlin1 IrelandBA)
    Шнуровики, ККК и далее
    MM107790 I0118 Alberstedt LNBA - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M324645 I0112 BellBeaker - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M224345 I0103 Corded Ware Germany - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M348611 I0104 Corded Ware Germany - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M313201 I0099 HalberstadtLNBA - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M671253 RISE71_Nordic_LN
    M370010 Unetice I0047
    M425717 I0116 Unetice
    M588222 I0164 Unetice
    M913021 RISE00_Corded_Estonia
    Ямная, Афанасьевская
    M828784 RISE511_Afanasyevo
    M828815 RISE552_Yamnaya
    M655536 I0231 Yamnaya - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M343758 I0443 Yamnaya - объединение с новым сиквенсом
    M766878 I0440 Poltavka
    Синташтинская, Срубная, Андроновская
    M690970 RISE386_Sintashta
    M277797 RISE395_Sintashta
    M472767 I0232_Srubnaya
    M217196 I0430 Srubnaya
    M608028 RISE505_Andronovo
    M348213 I0247-ScythianIA
    Южный Кавказ, бронза
    M691697 RISE407_Armenian_LBA
    M930063 RISE423_Armenian_MBA
    Не палеоДНК:
    M116026 RusPinega1
    M143348 RusPinega17
    M462211 RusPinega20
    M515902 RusPinega9
    M482183 Saami1
    M564203 Saami10
    M077607 SaamiKola5
    M109244 SaamiKola25

    Altai Neanderthal Denisova Cave, Siberia F999902 F 50,000 years
    Denisova Denisova Cave, Siberia F999903 F 30,000 years
    Palaeo-Eskimo Qeqertarsuaq, Greenland F999906 M Q1a D2a1 4,000 years Palaeo-Eskimo 2000 BC DNA
    Clovis-Anzick-1 Montana, North America F999919 M Q-Z780 D4h3a 12,500 years Matches Living people.
    Mal’ta South - Central Siberia F999914 M R U 24,000 years Matches Living people on X Chromosome.
    La Braña-Arintero León, Spain F999915 M C-V183 U5b2c1 7,000 years Analyzing La Braña-Arintero Ancient DNA
    Motala-12 Östergötland, Sweden F999917 M I-L460 U2e1 7,000 years My Analysis of Motala-12 ancient DNA
    LBK Stuttgart, Germany F999916 F T2c2 7,500 years Matches Living people
    Loschbour Loschbour, Luxembourg F999918 M I-L460 U5b1a 8,000 years Matches Living people
    Ajvide58 Sweden F999924 M I-CTS772 U4d 5000 years Ajvide58 DNA Analysis
    Gökhem2 Sweden F999934 F H1c 5000 years Gökhem2 Ancient DNA Analysis
    Hinxton-2 Cambridgshire, UK F999921 F H2a2b1 1300 years Hinxton-2 Analysis
    Hinxton-3 Cambridgshire, UK F999922 F K1a4a1a2b 1300 years Hinxton-3 Analysis
    Hinxton-4 Cambridgshire, UK F999925 M R-DF25 H1ag1 2000 years Hinxton-4 has X-Matches with living people
    Hinxton-5 Cambridgshire, UK F999926 F H2a2a1 1300 years Hinxton5 Ancient DNA Analysis
    KO1 Tiszaszőlős-Domaháza, Hungary F999931 M I-L68 R3 5650-5780 cal BC Analysis of Neolithic KO1 genome
    NE1 Polgár-Ferenci-hát, Hungary F999937 F U5b2c 5070-5310 cal BC Ancient NE1 Matches living people
    NE5 Kompolt - Kigyósér, Hungary F999927 M C-F3393 J1c 4990-5210 cal BC Ancient Hungarian Genome NE5 Analysis
    NE6 Apc-Berekalja I., Hungary F999932 M C-P255 K1a3a3 4950-5300 cal BC Analysis of Hungarian genome-NE6
    NE7 Apc-Berekalja I., Hungary F999928 M I-L1228 N1a 4360-4490 cal BC Ancient Hungarian genome - NE7
    CO1 Apc-Berekalja I., Hungary F999930 F H 2700-2900 cal BC Analysis of Copper age genome CO1
    BR2 Ludas-Varjú-dűlő, Hungary F999933 M J-M67 K1a1a 1110-1270 cal BC Ancient BR2 matches living people
    IR1 Ludas-Varjú-dűlő, Hungary F999929 M N-M231 G2a1 830-980 cal BC Ancient Hungarian genome - IR1
    Ust'-Ishim Ust'-Ishim, Siberia F999935 M K-M526 R 45,000 years Ust'-Ishim matches with living people!
    Kostenki14 European Russia F999936 M C-V199 U2 38,700-36,200 years Kostenki14 Ancient DNA Analysis
    RISE00 Sope, Estonia F999955 F H5a1 ~2000 years
    RISE94 Viby, Sweden F999956 M K-M1221 K1a2a 4025 years RISE94 has matches with living people
    RISE97 Fredriksberg, Sweden F999945 CT-Y1580 K2a5 3590 years
    RISE98 L Beddinge 56, Sweden F999941 M R-M405 K1b1a 3736 years RISE98 has matches with living people
    RISE150 Przeclawice, Poland F999948 U5a1b1 3469 years RISE150 has matches with living people
    RISE174 Oxie 7, Sweden F999943 W1 1521 years RISE174 has matches with living people
    RISE395 Bol'shekaraganskii, Russia F999949 F U2e1 3540 years RISE395 has matches with living people
    RISE479 Erd 4, Hungary F999944 M I-L1228 T2b ~2000 years
    RISE493 Sabinka 2, Russia F999950 M Q-L712 C4a1c 3214 years RISE493 has matches with living people
    RISE495 Arban 1, Russia, Karasuk, BA F999958 M R-F3105 D4j1
    RISE496 Arban 1, Russia F999959 F U5a1a2a 3070 years Not Found
    RISE497 Arban 1, Russia F999957 F-P142 A2f2 ~2000 years RISE497 has matches with living people Not Found
    RISE499 Bystrovka, Russia F999952 F H5a1 ~2000 years
    RISE500 Kytmanovo, Russia F999947 F U4d1 ~2000 years Not found
    RISE502 Bystrovka, Russia F999960 F U5a1d 3140 years Not found
    RISE503 Kytmanovo, Russia F999961 U2e2 3328 years Not found
    RISE504 Kytmanovo, Russia F999962 M J-CTS3732 C4a1d 1208 years Not found
    RISE505 Kytmanovo, Russia F999953 U4a1b 3391 years RISE505 has matches with living people Not found
    RISE509 Bateni, Russia F999942 F T2c 4186 years Not found
    RISE511 Bateni, Russia F999967 F J2a2a 4224 years Not found
    RISE523 Kapova cave, Russia F999966 G2a1 3192 years Not found
    RISE548 Temrta IV, Russia F999968 M R-L23 U4 ~2000 years
    RISE552 Ulan IV, Russia F999946 M I-S12195 T2a1a 3940 years RISE552 has matches with living people
    RISE569 Brandysek, Czech Republic F999954 H1af2 ~2000 years
    RISE577 Velke Prilepy, Czech Republic F999951 T2b ~2000 years
    RISE601 Verh-Uimon, Russia F999969 M M8a1 ~2000 years
    RISE602 Sary-Bel, Russia F999965 M J-M410 C4 ~2000 years
    Bot15 Rio Doce, Minas Gerais, Brazil F999963 M C-PH3092 B4a1a1a ~1600 AD
    Bot17 Rio Doce, Minas Gerais, Brazil F999964 M C-Z31878 B4a1a1 ~1600 AD
    Kennewick Man Kennewick, Washington state, USA F999970 M Q-M199 X2a 8358 years


    I0795 KAR6 7076 ± 90 years old ..........central Germany ....Gedmatch= M671535
    I0797 KAR16a 7087 ± 725 years old..........central Germany ...Gedmatch = M789703
    I1707 AG83 9573 ± 39 years old ............Ain Ghazal Jordan....Gedmatch = M632231
    43000 Ust'-Ishim 35
    -35000 Kostenki14 36
    -22000 Mal'ta 14
    -2000 Palaeo-Eskimo 6
    400 Bot15 Rio Doce/Brazil 63
    -11200 Satsurblia CHG M677694
    -7700 Kotias CHG M603839
    Kotias CHG M411747
    -5600 Samara/Russia I0124 EHG M218547
    Khvalynsk I0122 EHG M340431
    Khvalynsk I0122+I0124+I0433 EHG M737081
    -5250 Karelian i0061 EHG M652848
    -6000 Loschbour WEHG WEHG 18
    -5700 KO1 WEHG? WEHG? M325047
    -5000 La Braña WEHG WEHG M276583
    -3000 Ajvide58 WEHG WEHG 24
    -5714 I0017 Motala12/Suede SHG M645731
    -5000 Motala (Suède) SHG SHG 17
    -6200 I0707 Anatolian EF M897077
    I0709 Anatolian EF M936428
    I0746 Anatolian EF M754279
    I1583 Anatolian EF M411713
    -5100 I0410 Troc3/Espagne neolithique M641265
    -5260 I0412 Troc5/Espagne neolithique M471235
    -5140 I0054 LBK Néolithique M572125
    -5500 LBK Stuttgart Neolithique 16
    -5000 I0100 Halberstadt/Germany Neolithic M512608
    -5150 NE1 ALP Neolithique M405327
    -5150 NE5 late ALP Neolithique 27
    -5150 NE6 LBK Neolithique M923528
    -4400 NE7 Lengyel Neolithique M249240
    -2800 CO1 Baden Neolithique M261272
    -3000 Gokhem2 Neolithique farmer Neolithique 34
    -3220 I0172 EsperstedtGermany MN M226800
    -3750 I0406 La Mina/Espagne MN M815035
    -3750 I0408 La Mina/Espagne MN M979495
    I1300 Spain Chalcolithic M547763
    -3000 ATP2 Spain M849224
    I1502 EBA Hungary M681225
    -3000 I0443 Yamnaya Yamnaya M343758
    I0231 Yamnaya Yamnaya M655536
    -2496 RISE 552 Ulan IV Yamnaya M828815
    -2700 I0440 Poltavka Yamnaya M766878
    2500 I0103 Espersted/Germnay Cordé M224345
    2410 I0104 Espersted/Germnay Cordé M348611
    -2500 RISE94 Viby/Suède Cordé/Battle Axe F999956
    RISE00 Sope/Estonie Cordé M913021
    -2400 I0118 Albertsdedt/Germany LN M107790
    I0099 Halberstadt LNBA M313201
    -2250 I0112 BBC M324645
    -2153 Rise 98 L Bedding/Sweden Battle/Nordic F999941
    -2109 rise71 Danemark Nordic LN M671253
    -1950 RISE97 Estonie Nordic LN F999945
    I0116 Unetice M425717
    I0164 Unetice M588222
    -1980 I0047 Germany Unetice M370010
    -1789 Rise 150 Pologne Unetice F999948
    Rise577 Czech Unetice F999951
    -1500 Rise 479 Vatya/Hungary Vatya F999944
    -1477 Rise493 Sabinka/Russia Karasuk F999950
    -2000 RISE386 Bulanovo Sintashta M690970
    -1858 RISE 395 Bol'Shekaragans Sintashta M277797
    -1500 I0430 Srubnaya Russie M217196
    -1500 I0232 Srubnaya Russie M472767
    -2782 RISE509 Beteni/Russia Afanasievo F999942
    Rise 511 Bateni/Russia Afanasievo M828784
    -1700 RISE505 Kytmanovo Andronovo M608028
    -300 I0247 Scythian Russie M348213
    -1200 BR2 Kyjatice Bronze 33
    -1070 Rise 496 Arban/Russia 59
    -1060 I0099 Halbertsadt/Germany LBA M344778
    -1000 Rise500 Kytmanovo Russia 47
    -900 IR1 Mezocsat Fer 29
    -519 Rise 174 Iron Age Sweden F999943
    0 Hinxton4 Fer 25
    0 Rise569 Brandysek Czech 54
    700 Hinxton2 Anglo-Saxon 21
    700 Hinxton3 Anglo-Saxon 22
    700 Hinxton5 Anglo-Saxon 26
    RISE407 Armenia M691697
    RISE423 Armenia M930063
    I0806 Bell Beaker, Quedlinburg, Germany (2431-2150 BC)
    Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2a1a2a-DF27
    GEDmatch Kit Number: T253390
    RISE563 Bell Beaker, Osterhofen-Altenmarkt, Germany
    Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2a1a2b-U152
    GEDmatch Kit Number: T644357
    Dnieper-Donets
    Dnieper-Donets
    Dnieper-Donets
    From Tomanable
    M343758 / Yamnaya I0443 / 3300-2700 BC
    M655536 / Yamnaya I0231 / 2910-2875 BC
    M828815 / Yamnaya RISE552 / 2849-2146 BC
    F999968 / Yamnaya RISE548 / not reported
    M828784 / Afanasievo RISE511 / 2909-2679 BC
    F999942 / Afanasievo RISE509 / 2887-2677 BC
    M630274 / Poltavka I0432 / 2925-2536 BC
    M766878 / Poltavka I0440 / 2885-2665 BC
    F999946 / Catacomb RISE552 / 2849-2146 BC
    M370663 / Potapovka I0419 / 2200-1900 BC
    M608028 / Andronovo RISE505 / 1746-1626 BC
    F999961 / Andronovo RISE503 / 1727-1511 BC
    F999947 / Andronovo RISE500 / not reported
    M690970 / Sintashta RISE386 / 2298-2045 BC
    M277797 / Sintashta RISE395 / 1960-1756 BC
    M235073 / Srubnaya I0354 / 2016-1692 BC
    M472767 / Srubnaya I0232 / 1850-1200 BC
    M217196 / Srubnaya I0430 / 1850-1600 BC
    M328175 / Srubnaya I0423 / 1850-1200 BC
    Z378359 / Trzciniec PL_N17 / 1953-1880 BC
    Czechs 2kya
    Kit F999954
    Kit F999951
    Ancient Polish
    RISE145 (Poland, 2188-1958 BC, Unetice culture) - GEDmatch M069028
    RISE139 (Poland, 2135-1923 BC, Unetice culture) - GEDmatch M484113
    PL_N17 (Poland, 1953-1880 BC, Early Bronze Age) - GEDmatch Z378359
    RISE598 (Lithuania, 908-485 BC, Late Bronze Age) - GEDmatch M483824
    M070872 Kowalewko_22 , 100-300 AD Very poor quality
    M218986 Kowalewko_51 looks partly biased a little better
    M279138 Niemcza_18 ???, Niemcza 900-1000 AD very poor
    M518184 Mas_5, Maslomecz 200-400AD very poor
    T533353 mar7, Markowice 1000-1200AD a bit better
    T855386 Kow_26, biased but trend is very NW-Euro very poor
    Sowinki SI 21 19 1000AD-1100AD
    Gniezno GO 2 2 1000AD-1200AD
    Łegowo LO 9 8 1000AD-1200AD
    T457572, Vasilyevka 3, Ukraine Mesolithic
    Latvia M001884, HG1, low quality
    Latvia, Zvejnieki , R1b1a1a, Z229669, HG3, 7kya
    Latvian, MN1, T332765, Zvej26
    Latvian, LN1, T400485, Zvej28
    Good reference for some samples:
    http://arshba.ru/ancient-western-eur...ges-t1147.html

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    My results. Deep matches comes out way more accurate since the Roman falls off. Looks like we’re roman like but dna matches show Thracian and Illyrian.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    I do not know, but maybe this can help you, Angela:

    https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map...6/51.000/2.000

    And this too:
    Thanks very much, Duarte. The only ones I'm missing now in which I'm interested are the Szolad samples. If anyone knows where I can get them, I'd appreciate it.

    Looking at the hundreds and hundreds of samples, it would take me a week to run each sample and record my scores. It would definitely be worth it to me to pay a company like mytrueancestry.com to do it for me, so long as it wasn't extortionate. I'd say add a good 30.00 to the 20.00 fee Eurogenes charges, and it would be a fair price.

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    Well, I didn't buy the feature, so I don't know how much I would supposedly share with some ancients. Still, out of curiosity, I decided to compare my kit in Genesis with the Illyrian 1200 BC (kit SZ6386770), my closest archaeogenetic match according to MyTrueAncestry.

    Setting
    Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM

    Results - 23andMe v4
    Largest segment = 2.1 cM
    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 2.1 cM (0.059 Pct)
    1 shared segments found for this comparison.
    286055 SNPs used for this comparison.
    53.596 Pct SNPs are full identical

    Results - FTDNA
    Largest segment = 1.3 cM
    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 2.5 cM (0.069 Pct)
    2 shared segments found for this comparison.
    288405 SNPs used for this comparison.
    54.641 Pct SNPs are full identical

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    ED: Duarte made a better job below.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Well, I didn't buy the feature, so I don't know how much I would supposedly share with some ancients. Still, out of curiosity, I decided to compare my kit in Genesis with the Illyrian 1200 BC (kit SZ6386770), my closest archaeogenetic match according to MyTrueAncestry.

    Setting
    Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM

    Results - 23andMe v4
    Largest segment = 2.1 cM
    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 2.1 cM (0.059 Pct)
    1 shared segments found for this comparison.
    286055 SNPs used for this comparison.
    53.596 Pct SNPs are full identical

    Results - FTDNA
    Largest segment = 1.3 cM
    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 2.5 cM (0.069 Pct)
    2 shared segments found for this comparison.
    288405 SNPs used for this comparison.
    54.641 Pct SNPs are full identical
    Assuming is the same 1200 BC Illyrian.
    Full Unredacted Version:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    @Jovialis
    With your AncestryDNA, your longest block shared with RISE397, from Bronze Age Armenia, would have 10.58 cM. The GedMatch kit of RISE397 is supposedly M497255 (https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...th-kit-numbers).
    Could you try a One-to-one at GedMatch, for comparison?
    Thanks in advance.
    I just used One-to-many DNA Comparison from GedMatch and not a single one individual showed up as a M497255 match, even selecting the threshold of the largest segment as 3 cM.

    Curiously, at Genesis some Illyrian 1200 BC matches showed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Assuming is the same 1200 BC Illyrian.
    Full Unredacted Version:


    Ok. Now please open Genesis and check your kit against this very Illyrian 1200 BC (kit SZ6386770) using One-to-one. The idea is to compare the results of MyTrueAncestry and Genesis-GedMatch's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Thanks very much, Duarte. The only ones I'm missing now in which I'm interested are the Szolad samples. If anyone knows where I can get them, I'd appreciate it.

    Looking at the hundreds and hundreds of samples, it would take me a week to run each sample and record my scores. It would definitely be worth it to me to pay a company like mytrueancestry.com to do it for me, so long as it wasn't extortionate. I'd say add a good 30.00 to the 20.00 fee Eurogenes charges, and it would be a fair price.
    Szólád individuals, Hungary 6th century AD

    Kit Number: Z710290 (144,254 SNPs)
    Name: SZ1
    1 Bulgarian @ 7.056118
    1 Hungarian_Budapest + Italian_Tuscan + Sicilian_Center + Tatar-Lithuanian @ 3.165586

    Kit Number: Z206864 (141,022 SNPs)
    Name: SZ2
    1 Swede_Saami @ 5.016747
    1 Irish + Irish + Lithuanian + Swede_Saami @ 2.069724

    Kit Number: Z151393 (144,387 SNPs)
    Name: SZ3
    1 German-Volga @ 5.759760
    1 English_Kent_GBR + French + Frisian + Romanian @ 2.896801

    Kit Number: Z298465 (144,323 SNPs)
    Name: SZ4
    1 Norwegian_East @ 2.850477
    1 Icelandic + Kashub + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Welsh @ 1.751419

    Kit Number: Z878724 (6,535 SNPs)
    Name: SZ6
    1 Montenegrian @ 7.069643
    1 French_South + Iraqi_Jew + Kashub + Pole @ 3.289279

    Kit Number: Z855720 (140,771 SNPs)
    Name: SZ5
    1 German-Volga @ 4.005778
    1 Icelandic + Icelandic + Maltese + Swede @ 1.673600

    Kit Number: Z117741 (94,510 SNPs)
    Name: SZ7
    1 North_German @ 5.064991
    1 Frisian + Irish + Moksha + Slovenian @ 2.549737

    Kit Number: Z560831 (23,774 SNPs)
    Name: SZ8
    1 Dutch @ 7.236287
    1 Basque_French + Kuban_cossack + Lithuanian + Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan @ 5.783740

    Kit Number: Z891841 (103,519 SNPs)
    Name: SZ9
    1 Icelandic @ 3.325612
    1 Basque_French + Latvian + Russian_Center + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 2.479438

    Kit Number: Z589316 (144,121 SNPs)
    Name: SZ11
    1 Irish @ 3.262401
    1 Frisian + Irish + North_German + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.573416

    Kit Number: Z862010 (64,600 SNPs)
    Name: SZ12
    1 Austrian @ 3.794653
    1 Croat + Frisian + Frisian + Kashub @ 1.542849

    Kit Number: Z236800 (103,610 SNPs)
    Name: SZ13
    1 Dutch @ 3.986703
    1 Irish + Irish + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Swede_Saami @ 2.550477

    Kit Number: Z200736 (43,914 SNPs)
    Name: SZ14
    1 Irish @ 4.603542
    1 Azov_Greek + Basque_French + Icelandic + Latvian @ 3.754672

    Kit Number: Z253968 (144,267 SNPs)
    Name: SZ15
    1 Dutch @ 4.185629
    1 Icelandic + Macedonian + Norwegian_West + Norwegian_West @ 2.757054

    Kit Number: Z054110 (81,309 SNPs)
    Name: SZ16
    1 Swede_Saami @ 4.861366
    1 Belgian + Frisian + Moksha + Swede_Saami @ 2.455374

    Kit Number: Z019700 (90,500 SNPs)
    Name: SZ18
    1 German-Volga @ 7.772106
    1 Assyrian_Iraqi + Irish + Latvian + Portugese @ 1.117310

    Kit Number: Z886825 (1,322 SNPs)
    Name: SZ20
    1 Icelandic @ 6.759129
    1 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Tatar_Mishar @ 4.864956

    Kit Number: Z947904 (96,401 SNPs)
    Name: SZ19
    1 Italian_Abruzzo @ 7.377185
    1 Greek_Macedonia + Sardinian + Sicilian_Center + Sicilian_Center @ 3.155044

    Kit Number: Z569816 (87,701 SNPs)
    Name: SZ22
    1 Dutch @ 5.217050
    1 Basque_Spanish + Estonian + Latvian + Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 3.678942

    Kit Number: Z530540 (90,192 SNPs)
    Name: SZ23
    1 German-Volga @ 3.971430
    1 Greek_Smyrna + Norwegian_East + Norwegian_West + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.248870

    Kit Number: Z306476 (55,527 SNPs)
    Name: SZ24
    1 South_German @ 3.000075
    1 Bosnian + Irish + Kashub + Spanish_Valencia_IBS @ 2.063246

    Kit Number: Z201314 (29,806 SNPs)
    Name: SZ25
    1 German_East @ 12.342562
    1 Kumyk + Orcadian + Swede + Tatar_Kryashen @ 5.584211

    Kit Number: Z732151 (95,631 SNPs)
    Name: SZ27
    1 Italian_North @ 5.959258
    1 Frisian + German_East + Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS + Turk_Trabzon @ 2.216417

    Kit Number: Z888816 (96,924 SNPs)
    Name: SZ28
    1 Italian_Piedmont @ 6.745403
    1 Croat_BH + Kosovar + Kosovar + Sardinian @ 2.744360

    Kit Number: Z298008 (56,392 SNPs)
    Name: SZ30
    1 CEU @ 4.990139
    1 Basque_French + Finnish-East + German_East + Swede_Saami @ 2.854803

    Kit Number: Z250394 (14,673 SNPs)
    Name: SZ31
    1 Greek_Macedonia @ 5.351642
    1 Druze + Gagauz + Gagauz + Greek_Thessaly @ 4.796592

    Kit Number: Z261020 (98,828 SNPs)
    Name: SZ32
    1 Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.228703
    1 Greek_Macedonia + Greek_Phokaia + Greek_Smyrna + Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS @ 2.410945

    Kit Number: Z629675 (855 SNPs)
    Name: SZ35
    1 German_East @ 37.495682
    1 BedouinB + Finn + Icelandic + Mozabite @ 18.362967

    Kit Number: Z961044 (139,104 SNPs)
    Name: SZ36
    1 Greek_Peloponnesos @ 6.068368
    1 Christian_Arabs_Israel + Italian_South + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 1.551272

    Kit Number: Z450920 (46,652 SNPs)
    Name: SZ37
    1 Greek_Northwest @ 4.626865
    1 Iraqi_Jew + Pole + Romanian + Sardinian @ 2.734642

    Kit Number: Z453129 (92,775 SNPs)
    Name: SZ38
    1 German-Volga @ 4.628473
    1 Finn_West + Maltese + Norwegian_West + Orcadian @ 2.582427

    Kit Number: Z129947 (92,910 SNPs)
    Name: SZ40
    1 Sicilian_Agrigento @ 3.101774
    1 French_Jew + Italian_South + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Galicia_IBS @ 1.881770

    Kit Number: Z887416 (4,406 SNPs)
    Name: SZ41
    1 Austrian @ 9.484020
    1 Finn_West + Russian-Upper-Volga + Serb_Serbia + Spanish_Baleares_IBS @ 8.337543

    Kit Number: Z156535 (105,572 SNPs)
    Name: SZ42
    1 German-Volga @ 5.279166
    1 Basque_Spanish + Frisian + Kabardin + Lithuanian @ 2.065954

    Kit Number: Z817510 (144,438 SNPs)
    Name: SZ43
    1 Italian_Tuscan @ 4.030470
    1 Greek_Macedonia + Greek_Macedonia + Sardinian + Serb_Serbia @ 1.924982

    Kit Number: T331118 (144,361 SNPs)
    Name: SZ44
    1 Italian_North @ 6.493385
    1 Assyrian_Arzni + Basque_Spanish + Estonian + South_German @ 1.942307

    Kit Number: T963830 (144,360 SNPs)
    Name: SZ45
    1 Italian_North @ 6.465716
    1 Armenian + Basque_Spanish + Kuban_cossack + North_European @ 1.924803


    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...Dmatch-results

    SZ1, Bronze Age; SZ2, SZ3, SZ4, SZ5, SZ7, SZ8, SZ9, SZ11, SZ12, SZ13, SZ14, SZ15, SZ16, SZ18, SZ19, SZ22, SZ23, SZ24, SZ27B, SZ28, SZ30, SZ32, SZ36, SZ37, SZ38, SZ40, SZ42, SZ43, SZ45, Longobard, 410-600 AD; AV1, AV2, Avar(?), 540-640 AD



    Full articles. I hope that this can help you, Angela:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-06024-4
    https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-018-06024-4

    SZ1:
    mtDNA: J1b
    Y-DNA: R1a1a1b2a2a(Z2123)

    SZ2:
    mtDNA: T1a1
    Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a1c2b2a1b1a(L130)

    SZ3:
    mtDNA: H18
    Y-DNA: I2a2a1b2a2(S390)

    SZ4:
    mtDNA: H1c9
    Y-DNA: R1b1a2a1a1b(Z16)

    SZ5:
    mtDNA: J2b1
    Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2a1b(CTS1595)

    SZ7:
    mtDNA: T2e
    Y-DNA: I2a2a1b2a2a2(ZS20)

    SZ8:
    mtDNA: M5b'c

    SZ9:
    mtDNA: J1b1a1d

    SZ11:
    mtDNA: K2a3a
    Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1a1(Z351)

    SZ12:
    mtDNA: W6
    Y-DNA: I2a2a1(CTS9183)

    SZ13:
    mtDNA: N1b1b1
    Y-DNA: I2a2a1b2a2a2(ZS20)

    SZ14:
    mtDNA: I3
    Y-DNA: I2a2a1(CTS9183)

    SZ15:
    mtDNA: H1c1
    Y-DNA: R1a1a1b1a3a(S200)

    SZ16:
    mtDNA: U4b1b
    Y-DNA: R1b1a2a1a1c(Z381)

    SZ18:
    mtDNA: H13a1a2
    Y-DNA: E1b1b1a1b2(CTS2817)

    SZ19:
    mtDNA: HV9c

    SZ22:
    mtDNA: N1b1b1
    Y-DNA: I2a2a1b2a2a2(ZS20)

    SZ23:
    mtDNA: H13a1a2
    Y-DNA: R1b1a2a1a1c(Z381)

    SZ24:
    mtDNA: U4b
    Y-DNA: I2a2a1(CTS9183)

    SZ27B:
    mtDNA: N1a1a1a1
    Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2(S116)

    SZ28:
    mtDNA: H3b5

    SZ30:
    mtDNA: H13a

    SZ32:
    mtDNA: H74

    SZ36:
    mtDNA: U4c2a
    Y-DNA: T1a1a(PF5620)

    SZ37:
    mtDNA: H66a
    Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2(S116)

    SZ38:
    mtDNA: HV0

    SZ40:
    mtDNA: T2

    SZ42:
    mtDNA: K2a6
    Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2(S116)

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    Country: USA - New York

    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Are you referring to the kit numbers?
    If so... From Genesis:
    AV0: ?
    AV1: PE7910098
    AV2: FP8983383
    Source: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...y)-on-GEDmatch
    Yes, I want to track down the kit numbers, but not these two samples, rather, the ones with which so many southern Europeans have gotten a lot of similarity; the ones Duarte posted about.

    It will have to wait until tomorrow, though.

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