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Jovialis said:
Below are my eurogenes K36 Ancient results.


Oracle Calculator by www.dnagenics.com
v1 Beta 30/03/2019


Finished reading population data. 474 populations found.
36 components mode.


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Mixed Mode:
Elapsed Time: 75284 ms
1 52.54% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 47.46% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 5.690
2 50.20% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 49.80% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 5.720
3 60.74% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 39.26% CL36_northItalian @ 6.226
4 68.55% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 31.45% BA_I9041_Mycenaean @ 6.552
5 74.41% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25.59% CL94_Iberian @ 6.604
6 65.43% CL121__northItalian + 34.57% CHL_Anatolian_I1584 @ 6.687
7 76.37% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 23.63% I1979_Beaker_North_Italy @ 6.703
8 78.71% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 21.29% BA_Hungary_RISE374 @ 6.713
9 50.20% CL36_northItalian + 49.80% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 6.747
10 53.71% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 46.29% CL30_GreeksouthItalian @ 6.752
11 77.54% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 22.46% BA_Hungary_RISE247 @ 6.754
12 50.20% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 49.80% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 6.813
13 75.98% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 24.02% BA_Hungary_RISE483 @ 6.844
14 55.66% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 44.34% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 @ 7.140
15 78.71% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 21.29% CHL_Iran_I1665 @ 7.187
16 61.13% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 38.87% SZ40_Italian @ 7.195
17 50.20% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 + 49.80% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 7.267
18 78.71% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 21.29% CHL_Iran_I1674 @ 7.290
19 67.38% CL121__northItalian + 32.62% EN_Anatolia_Tep003 @ 7.335
20 77.54% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 22.46% MBA_Armenia_RISE423 @ 7.377
21 78.71% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 21.29% CHL_Iran_I1662 @ 7.389
22 81.45% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 18.55% MN_Germany_I0807 @ 7.433
23 63.87% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 36.13% SZ36_northItalian @ 7.484
24 54.49% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 45.51% CL121__northItalian @ 7.495
25 83.40% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 16.60% N_Germany_I0048 @ 7.497
26 74.41% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 25.59% BA_Hungary_RISE374 @ 7.539
27 50.20% CL121__northItalian + 49.80% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 7.552
28 50.20% SZ40_Italian + 49.80% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 7.631
29 79.49% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 20.51% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 7.653
30 77.93% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 22.07% BA_Hungary_RISE480 @ 7.720
31 75.59% CL121__northItalian + 24.41% BA_I0070_Minoan @ 7.793
32 78.32% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 21.68% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 @ 7.837
33 77.15% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 22.85% i3757_Celtiberian_IA @ 7.849
34 82.23% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 17.77% N_Hungary_NE7 @ 7.856
35 65.43% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 34.57% BA_I9006_Mycenean @ 7.952
36 80.66% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 19.34% MN_Germany_I0560 @ 7.955
37 78.71% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 21.29% N_Sweden_Gokhem5 @ 8.012
38 73.24% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 26.76% Visigoth_southEuro_mixed_I12031 @ 8.019
39 73.63% CL121__northItalian + 26.37% N_Levant__AinGhazal3 @ 8.022
40 82.62% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 17.38% N_Hungary_CO1 @ 8.045


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 11.394
2 100% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 12.345
3 100% CL121__northItalian @ 12.776
4 100% CL30_GreeksouthItalian @ 13.825
5 100% CL25_south_Italian @ 14.551
6 100% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 @ 14.554
7 100% SZ40_Italian @ 15.593
8 100% CL36_northItalian @ 15.918
9 100% SZ37_Greek_Italian @ 16.719
10 100% EN_Anatolia_Tepe002 @ 16.948
New populations: 98


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 50% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 5.716
2 50% CL36_northItalian + 50% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 6.729
3 50% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 50% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 6.807
4 50% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 + 50% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 7.259
5 50% CL121__northItalian + 50% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 7.547
6 50% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 50% SZ40_Italian @ 7.617
7 50% CL121__northItalian + 50% CL30_GreeksouthItalian @ 8.101
8 50% CL121__northItalian + 50% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 8.178
9 50% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 50% SZ36_northItalian @ 8.189
10 50% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 50% CL36_northItalian @ 8.199


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% CL121__northItalian + 33% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 33% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.480
2 33% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 33% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 + 33% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.680
3 33% CL121__northItalian + 33% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 33% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.815
4 33% BA_I9041_Mycenaean + 33% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 33% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 @ 5.336
5 33% BA_I9006_Mycenean + 33% CL121__northItalian + 33% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 5.849
6 33% BA_I9033_Mycenaean + 33% CL121__northItalian + 33% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 5.854
7 33% BA_I9006_Mycenean + 33% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 33% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 @ 5.863
8 33% CL36_northItalian + 33% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 33% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 5.917
9 33% CL121__northItalian + 33% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 33% EMA_Greek_STR_300 @ 5.965
10 33% CL121__northItalian + 33% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 33% EMA_Greek_STR_300 @ 6.020


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% CL121__northItalian + 25% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.447
2 25% CHL_Anatolian_I1584 + 25% CL121__northItalian + 25% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 + 25% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.656
3 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 + 25% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 25% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.672
4 25% CL36_northItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.683
5 25% CL121__northItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 + 25% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.693
6 25% CL121__northItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.699
7 25% BA_I9041_Mycenaean + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 @ 4.758
8 25% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 25% CL36_northItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.790
9 25% CHL_Anatolian_I1584 + 25% CL121__northItalian + 25% EMA_Greek_STR_300 + 25% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 @ 4.812
10 25% BA_I9041_Mycenaean + 25% CL121__northItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 4.973
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The raw data file was also created with their companion software, DNAkit studio. It is a combination of 23andme, AncestryDNA, Living DNA, and Helix Geno 2.0. It was made in DIYDodecad format, which is what the Admixturestudio kit converts the file to. So I guess that would give it optimal compatibility. This is the results for it in AncestryDNA format, on MyTrueAncestry:

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I believe since this file has the most SNPs, it is the most legitimate representation. Living DNA may yield more results, but it is done, with genotyped information, on the least amount of SNPs. I read on a whole genome sequencing service, that there may still be some non-matching SNPs with raw data from a whole seqeunced genome, and a genotyped file from another consumer genomics service. The reason is because the lack of information in the file falsely assigns some results. My guess is that it is being overwriten with more fleshed out information, with the superkit. Because even when I compare the superkit to another raw data file that is baked into the superkit, there are non-matching SNPs. That means to me, that they're being changed.
 
MyTrueAnc. vs Eurog. K36 Ancient
Top 10 (combined)

MyTrueAnc.
1. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (9.628) - SZ40
2. Central Roman (590 AD) (12.64) - SZ36
3. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) (13.23) - CL38
4. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (13.28) - CL121
5. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) (13.59) - CL30
6. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (13.64) - SZ19
7. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) (14.71) - CL25
8. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (15.11) - I9041
9. Central Roman (590 AD) (15.3) - SZ43
10. Central Roman (590 AD) (15.32) - SZ32

Eurog. K36 Ancient
1 100% SZ40_Italian @ 13.247
2 100% CL25_south_Italian @ 13.259
3 100% CL31_Greek_Balkan @ 15.568
4 100% SZ36_northItalian @ 15.617
5 100% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 @ 15.618
6 100% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 16.317
7 100% CL36_northItalian @ 16.403
8 100% SZ37_Greek_Italian @ 16.600
9 100% CL121__northItalian @ 17.810
10 100% N_Bar31_Anatolia @ 17.810

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I just uploaded the same Superkit in AncestryDNA format made with DNAkit studio to AdmixtureStudio. It produces the same results the one in DIYDodcad format. Thus the original format has no bearing on the results for Admixture Studio. They all get changed to the same DIYDodcad format before processing anyway.
 
@Jovialis
Notice how our Ancestral Timeline stop at 670 AD, unlike many others where the timeline goes on.

I guess we haven't changed much since 670 AD :)
 
Salento said:
@Jovialis
Notice how our Ancestral Timeline stop at 670 AD, unlike many others where the timeline goes on.

I guess we haven't changed much since 670 AD :)
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I think so, we would be somewhere slightly between "south" of SZ40 and "north" of CL38. Moreover, these are people found geographically far from Puglia, in other parts of the Roman Empire.

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Salento,

This shows my Mediterranean and Asian results that mytrueancestry.com did not.

Southwest Asian admixtures
 
2nd time is the charm...

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BMW said:
2nd time is the charm...
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What is your ancestry? I would compare results to the spreadsheet that different groups get. As for the compoments, they're pretty meaningless in trying to determine that it confirms south and west asian, unless it is radically out of the norm for your known ancestrial groups. Futhermore, theres tons of overlap from Anatolian farmers and iranian like admixuture, (40 % of which is found in yamnaya.) Much of it subsumed in these dubiously broad components.
 
Jovialis,

My ancestry is Irish on both sides.
 
BMW said:
Jovialis,
My ancestry is Irish on both sides.
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Then I would be confident to say your connection to the middle east is very ancient. There's lots of overlap with source populations. GEDmatch can be confusing. At any rate I find the single population approximations with close distance, that you can cooraborate with your known ancestry, to be useful.
 
Jovialis,

A little background on why I made that post:
My Y-DNA haplogroup is T and was a bit surprised that mytrueancestry.com did not show anything for me on either immediate side of the Mediterranean.
Dodecad V3 showed what I thought my paternal haplogroup's contribution would show in the overall scheme of things.
 
BMW said:
Jovialis,

A little background on why I made that post:
My Y-DNA haplogroup is T and was a bit surprised that mytrueancestry.com did not show anything for me on either immediate side of the Mediterranean.
Dodecad V3 showed what I thought my paternal haplogroup's contribution would show in the overall scheme of things.
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Perhaps it is from the Neolthic or Bronze-age, if I were to guess.
 
This is probably something along the lines you were suggesting, Jovialis.

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Scottish 3.37
2 Irish 3.96
3 Orcadian 5.4
4 Southwest_English 5.67
5 North_Dutch 6.55
6 Danish 7.04
7 Southeast_English 7.21
8 Norwegian 7.44
9 North_German 9.19
10 Swedish 10.37
11 South_Dutch 11.88
12 West_German 13.19
13 French 16.47
14 North_Swedish 16.63
15 Austrian 18.65
16 East_German 18.91
17 Spanish_Cataluna 23.08
18 Hungarian 23.22
19 Southwest_French 23.85
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 24.04
 
"Perhaps it is from the Neolthic or Bronze-age, if I were to guess."
I agree with you.
 
Jovialis,

I have considered this quote from Eupedia as a possibility:

"Autosomal DNA tests have also identified unusually high percentages of Southwest Asian admixtures among the Finns (1 to 2.5%) and Lithuanians (1.5%), who otherwise lack West Asian or Caucasian admixture and possess hardly any Middle Eastern Y-DNA. This Southwest Asian admixture could be the trace of T lineages absorbed during the Neolithic".
 
BMW said:
"Perhaps it is from the Neolthic or Bronze-age, if I were to guess."
I agree with you.
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T hunters lived in north germany in the neolithic times
 
my timeline

 
Thanks, torzio.

Here is my timeline.

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BMW said:
This is probably something along the lines you were suggesting, Jovialis.

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Scottish 3.37
2 Irish 3.96
3 Orcadian 5.4
4 Southwest_English 5.67
5 North_Dutch 6.55
6 Danish 7.04
7 Southeast_English 7.21
8 Norwegian 7.44
9 North_German 9.19
10 Swedish 10.37
11 South_Dutch 11.88
12 West_German 13.19
13 French 16.47
14 North_Swedish 16.63
15 Austrian 18.65
16 East_German 18.91
17 Spanish_Cataluna 23.08
18 Hungarian 23.22
19 Southwest_French 23.85
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 24.04
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Yeah, I would say the top tier results in your single population approximation are accurate for your known heritage. Irish, and West Scottish are very similar. Though this is not always reliable either. If you were adopted and only relied on this tool, you might assume you're actually Scottish, rather than Irish. Mixed mode can be far less reliable unless you're using the right populations too
 
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