that would be great. thanksProblem is on yourdnaportal there are only 8 positions in distance list.
I can later make list for you up to 50 for example in nMonte on my computer, will post.
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that would be great. thanksProblem is on yourdnaportal there are only 8 positions in distance list.
I can later make list for you up to 50 for example in nMonte on my computer, will post.
Population | Distance |
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BA_Unetice_Czechia_RISE577 | 0.8138778 |
IA_Celtic_Britain_Hinxton1 | 0.9158936 |
I1767_Beaker_Britain | 1.0586737 |
EMA_Hinxton5_Anglosaxon | 1.0802194 |
IA_Britain_York_6DRIF18 | 1.1105017 |
BA_Unetice_Poland_RISE150 | 1.2261611 |
IA_Britain_York_6DRIF23 | 1.3095858 |
I1767_EarlyBronze_Age_Briton | 1.3359061 |
Population | Value |
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IA_Celtic_Britain_Hinxton1 | 34.8 |
BA_Unetice_Czechia_RISE577 | 26.2 |
I1767_Beaker_Britain | 10.4 |
CWC_Denmark_RISE61 | 5 |
DA111_Hallstatt-Bylany|_800BC | 2.6 |
I1767_EarlyBronze_Age_Briton | 2.4 |
I5385_Scotland_Bell_Beaker | 2 |
Baiuvarii_Germanic_STR_480 | 1.6 |
IA_Britain_York_6DRIF23 | 1.4 |
EMA_Hinxton2_Anglosaxon | 1.2 |
IA_Wielbark_Kow_22_PL | 1.2 |
BA_Srubnaya_I0235 | 0.8 |
CWC_Germany_I0108 | 0.8 |
I2462_Bronze_Age_England_Kent | 0.8 |
MBA_Germany__RISE471 | 0.8 |
BA_Hungary_RISE373 | 0.6 |
I10851_medieval_Catalonia | 0.6 |
I3759_Celtiberian | 0.6 |
IA_Wielbark_Kow_26_PL | 0.6 |
BA_Srubnaya_I0358 | 0.4 |
BA_Unetice_Germany_I0047 | 0.4 |
BA_Unetice_Poland_RISE139 | 0.4 |
Baiuvarii_Germanic_STR_241 | 0.4 |
Bell_Beaker_Germany_I0171 | 0.4 |
IA_Britain_York_3DRIF16 | 0.4 |
SZ23_Longobard | 0.4 |
i3759_Celtiberian_IA | 0.4 |
BA_Portugal_ERR1524174 | 0.2 |
Baiuvarii_Germanic_STR_486 | 0.2 |
CL23_north-Italian | 0.2 |
CL83_Celto-Longobard | 0.2 |
I10892_Catalonia_medieval | 0.2 |
IA_Wielbark_Mas_5_PL | 0.2 |
MBA_Armenia_RISE413 | 0.2 |
N_Sweden_Gökhem7 | 0.2 |
Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c | 0.2 |
SZ3_Longobard | 0.2 |
SZ45_Pannonian | 0.2 |
Visigoth_Iberian_I12034 | 0.2 |
My YourDNAportal results
Closest population distances
Population Distance BA_Unetice_Czechia_RISE577 0.8138778 IA_Celtic_Britain_Hinxton1 0.9158936 I1767_Beaker_Britain 1.0586737 EMA_Hinxton5_Anglosaxon 1.0802194 IA_Britain_York_6DRIF18 1.1105017 BA_Unetice_Poland_RISE150 1.2261611 IA_Britain_York_6DRIF23 1.3095858 I1767_EarlyBronze_Age_Briton 1.3359061
Population Value IA_Celtic_Britain_Hinxton1 34.8 BA_Unetice_Czechia_RISE577 26.2 I1767_Beaker_Britain 10.4 CWC_Denmark_RISE61 5 DA111_Hallstatt-Bylany|_800BC 2.6 I1767_EarlyBronze_Age_Briton 2.4 I5385_Scotland_Bell_Beaker 2 Baiuvarii_Germanic_STR_480 1.6 IA_Britain_York_6DRIF23 1.4 EMA_Hinxton2_Anglosaxon 1.2 IA_Wielbark_Kow_22_PL 1.2 BA_Srubnaya_I0235 0.8 CWC_Germany_I0108 0.8 I2462_Bronze_Age_England_Kent 0.8 MBA_Germany__RISE471 0.8 BA_Hungary_RISE373 0.6 I10851_medieval_Catalonia 0.6 I3759_Celtiberian 0.6 IA_Wielbark_Kow_26_PL 0.6 BA_Srubnaya_I0358 0.4 BA_Unetice_Germany_I0047 0.4 BA_Unetice_Poland_RISE139 0.4 Baiuvarii_Germanic_STR_241 0.4 Bell_Beaker_Germany_I0171 0.4 IA_Britain_York_3DRIF16 0.4 SZ23_Longobard 0.4 i3759_Celtiberian_IA 0.4 BA_Portugal_ERR1524174 0.2 Baiuvarii_Germanic_STR_486 0.2 CL23_north-Italian 0.2 CL83_Celto-Longobard 0.2 I10892_Catalonia_medieval 0.2 IA_Wielbark_Mas_5_PL 0.2 MBA_Armenia_RISE413 0.2 N_Sweden_Gökhem7 0.2 Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c 0.2 SZ3_Longobard 0.2 SZ45_Pannonian 0.2 Visigoth_Iberian_I12034 0.2
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Finished reading population data. 474 populations found.
36 components mode.
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Mixed Mode:
Elapsed Time: 33083 ms
1 52.15% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 47.85% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 5.744
2 50.20% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 49.80% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 5.763
3 59.96% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 40.04% CL36_northItalian @ 6.196
4 68.16% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 31.84% BA_I9041_Mycenaean @ 6.572
5 78.32% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 21.68% BA_Hungary_RISE374 @ 6.628
6 74.02% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25.98% CL94_Iberian @ 6.629
7 50.20% CL36_northItalian + 49.80% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 6.656
8 65.82% CL121__northItalian + 34.18% CHL_Anatolian_I1584 @ 6.674
9 77.15% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 22.85% BA_Hungary_RISE247 @ 6.700
10 76.37% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 23.63% I1979_Beaker_North_Italy @ 6.754
11 75.59% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 24.41% BA_Hungary_RISE483 @ 6.826
12 54.49% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 45.51% CL30_GreeksouthItalian @ 6.836
13 50.20% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 49.80% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 6.917
14 59.96% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 40.04% SZ40_Italian @ 7.071
15 56.05% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 43.95% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 @ 7.094
16 67.77% CL121__northItalian + 32.23% EN_Anatolia_Tep003 @ 7.228
17 50.20% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 + 49.80% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 7.233
18 79.10% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 20.90% CHL_Iran_I1665 @ 7.293
19 77.93% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 22.07% MBA_Armenia_RISE423 @ 7.312
20 79.10% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 20.90% CHL_Iran_I1674 @ 7.374
21 50.20% SZ40_Italian + 49.80% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 7.432
22 78.71% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 21.29% CHL_Iran_I1662 @ 7.460
23 81.05% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 18.95% MN_Germany_I0807 @ 7.460
24 74.02% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 25.98% BA_Hungary_RISE374 @ 7.502
25 83.01% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 16.99% N_Germany_I0048 @ 7.508
26 53.71% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 46.29% CL121__northItalian @ 7.520
27 63.48% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 36.52% SZ36_northItalian @ 7.543
28 50.20% CL121__northItalian + 49.80% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 7.560
29 75.20% CL121__northItalian + 24.80% BA_I0070_Minoan @ 7.604
30 79.88% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 20.12% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 7.655
31 77.15% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 22.85% BA_Hungary_RISE480 @ 7.669
32 76.76% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 23.24% i3757_Celtiberian_IA @ 7.853
33 81.84% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 18.16% N_Hungary_NE7 @ 7.869
34 77.93% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 22.07% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 @ 7.878
35 73.63% CL121__northItalian + 26.37% N_Levant__AinGhazal3 @ 7.964
36 80.27% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 19.73% MN_Germany_I0560 @ 7.983
37 65.04% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 34.96% BA_I9006_Mycenean @ 8.011
38 72.46% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 27.54% Visigoth_southEuro_mixed_I12031 @ 8.029
39 51.37% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 48.63% CL121__northItalian @ 8.038
40 50.20% CL121__northItalian + 49.80% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 8.043
Least-squares method.
Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 11.518
2 100% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 12.270
3 100% CL121__northItalian @ 12.674
4 100% CL30_GreeksouthItalian @ 13.993
5 100% CL25_south_Italian @ 14.381
6 100% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 @ 14.583
7 100% SZ40_Italian @ 15.307
8 100% CL36_northItalian @ 15.752
9 100% SZ37_Greek_Italian @ 16.584
10 100% SZ36_northItalian @ 16.902
New populations: 98
Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 50% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 5.760
2 50% CL36_northItalian + 50% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 6.639
3 50% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 50% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 6.911
4 50% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 + 50% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 7.224
5 50% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 50% SZ40_Italian @ 7.418
6 50% CL121__northItalian + 50% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 7.556
7 50% CL121__northItalian + 50% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 8.042
8 50% CL121__northItalian + 50% CL30_GreeksouthItalian @ 8.165
9 50% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 50% CL36_northItalian @ 8.181
10 50% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 50% SZ36_northItalian @ 8.198
Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% CL121__northItalian + 33% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 33% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.422
2 33% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 33% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 + 33% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.746
3 33% CL121__northItalian + 33% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 33% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.824
4 33% BA_I9041_Mycenaean + 33% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 33% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 @ 5.285
5 33% BA_I9006_Mycenean + 33% CL121__northItalian + 33% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 5.781
6 33% CL36_northItalian + 33% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 33% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 5.796
7 33% BA_I9033_Mycenaean + 33% CL121__northItalian + 33% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 5.841
8 33% BA_I9006_Mycenean + 33% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 33% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 @ 5.893
9 33% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 33% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 33% SZ43_northItalian @ 5.934
10 33% CL121__northItalian + 33% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 33% EMA_Greek_STR_300 @ 6.010
Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% CL121__northItalian + 25% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.534
2 25% CL36_northItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.646
3 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 + 25% SZ19_Italian_Balkan + 25% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.673
4 25% CL121__northItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 + 25% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.674
5 25% CHL_Anatolian_I1584 + 25% CL121__northItalian + 25% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 + 25% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.680
6 25% CL121__northItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.734
7 25% BA_I9041_Mycenaean + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 @ 4.791
8 25% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 25% CL36_northItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% SZ19_Italian_Balkan @ 4.802
9 25% CHL_Anatolian_I1584 + 25% CL121__northItalian + 25% EMA_Greek_STR_300 + 25% EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1 @ 4.870
10 25% BA_I9041_Mycenaean + 25% CL121__northItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 4.918
What is your opinion about results?
PLA DE L'HORTA (SARRIÀ DE TER, GIRONA): A NECROPOLIS WITH VISIGOUS INHUMATIONS IN THE EASTERN TARRACONENSE
Are the MytrueAncestry Visigoths from this site?
I keep seeing some of you mention a superkit. I had to go look that up and it sounds awesome, but is there a simple way to make one for someone incredibly tech challenged like myself? Thanks.
I keep seeing some of you mention a superkit. I had to go look that up and it sounds awesome, but is there a simple way to make one for someone incredibly tech challenged like myself? Thanks.
Sorry, a few of more questions...
I have an Ancestry, 23andme and LivingDNA. Which should be the "base file" and what am I supposed to put for output file section? Do I leave all the merge options on the default settings? Thanks again. I told you I am not very tech savvy. ha
These are four of your Visigothic matches:
29. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (19.6) - I12032 (24.16)
36. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (20.74) - I12162
59. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) (24.23) - I12031 ((18.79)
60. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (24.3) - I12163 ((22.92)
We get similar "fits". Not very good.
I didn't look up the specific y's for each one, but in general the Spanish elite "Visigoths" were not a particularly Germanic group by the time they arrived in Iberia.
As Markod pointed out in the relevant paper:
The 4 males from early Visigothic Pla de l'Horta (Catalonia) are R1b-L51, E-V13, J2a and I. These were Visigothic 'big men' from one of the most important necropolises of the period.
Some of the Visigoths have likely East Eurasian mtDNA too - C4a1a.
The Goths, unlike, it seems to me, the Langobards, very quickly absorbed people as they roamed Europe. The "Ostrogoth" labeled sample mytrueancestry uses couldn't be less "Germanic". Autosomally, this Gothic "high chief" buried in a Kurgan is Aegean Greek/Anatolian and carries J2a1a. (My fit to him is 22.
To this Visigothic sample you get a very good score, your best.
Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (8.771) - I12034
I was intrigued, so I went back to our thread on the Olade et al 2019 paper, and we discussed the Visigothic Spanish samples a lot.
From Tomenable:
"One Visigoth from Spain -I12031 - clusters with modern Serbs and has Balkan Y-DNA haplogroup E1b1b1a1b1a.
This is Balkan haplogroup E-V13."
Visigoth I12031 - this one had around 1/4 Paleo-Balkan ancestry, also 1/4 North Italian (North-West - like Aosta, and North-Central - like Lombardy; maybe some French Gaulish too), 10% similar to modern North Albanians (so also Balkan likely), 1/5 to 1/4 North-East European (including some Slavic apparently, but not exclusively), 6% North Caucasus (Alans?), 5% local Iberian and 5% East Med (Druze).
I am E-V22 but I do not know if it is possible that my father was E-V13 or my grandfather, I do not know if that is possible or that some E-V22 had reached the Indo-Europeans because these results in MyTrueAncestry are obtained by dna And from any region of Spain I get results by mitochondrial DNA, I have to go to Portugal, Slovenia, etc.
I was looking at all those skeletons in the pdf file that could not be downloaded and I searched Google and I found the skeleton that had caught my attention because of the bones of the legs with that inward inclination like me and my second brother have legs a little inwards.
http://aespa.revistas.csic.es/index.php/aespa/article/viewFile/53/53
I have done this deep research of walking around house totally amateur. The closest value I get from Castilla y León and you were right finally the Alano came out.
"Anyone who wants to understand their matches to all these newly included Iberian matches should really re-read this thread.
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/38084-Two-Iberia-Papers-with-article/page3
Carlos, that would be amazing! I appreciate they put links to have a jumping off point for research. However, sifting through some of the research papers linked to find the info on each sample is a bit of a pain and pretty dry in some cases.
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