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    New upload raw data, now from MyHeritage. Compared with the new upload done with data from FTDNA, there are some changes in Deep Dive and in Timeline. In Timeline the Portugal Bronze Age back again. In Deep Dive, Portugal Bronze Age back again, also back again the Thracian Bulgaria and now appears the Visigoth Germanic Girona.

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    “Às vezes ouço passar o vento; e só de ouvir o vento passar, vale a pena ter nascido”.
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    I also get "Tuscan Crusader" as well as "Roman Citizen" in my timeline. Though the fits are not good, as Pax pointed out. These are individuals that share a common ancestry, Italians, that came from Italy, that are diverged from traveling to and remaining in Lebenon, that admixed with Lebenese people in the respective time periods. Not that they have anything really to do with population genetics in Italian history. Up-thread, I believe this is almost the same case with the Hittite, and Cannanite samples; in connection to Copper Age Anatolia.

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    Try a second kit with the same file and it has not worked well for me. Missing data, maybe I would have to erase and then put in but I am not willing to take the risk and lose the bell beaker of my ancestral line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post




    Try a second kit with the same file and it has not worked well for me. Missing data, maybe I would have to erase and then put in but I am not willing to take the risk and lose the bell beaker of my ancestral line.
    Hello Carlos.
    I was with the following kits: MyHeritage, MyHeritage1, FTDNA, FTDNA1 and MyHeritage reloaded. MyHeritage1 and FTDNA1 were working fine. The others did not display Deep Dive and did not display the maps corresponding to Deep Dive. I definitely excluded the Kits MyHeritage, MyHeritage reloaded, and FTDNA. After that I done a new upload of the raw data FTDNA, which I renamed as FTDNA2, and did a new upload of the raw data of MyHeritage, which I named as MyHeritage2. Today I have FTDNA2 and MyHeritage 2 (new Deep Dive with new maps) and MyHeritage1 and FTDNA1 (old Deep Dive with old maps).

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    My results after reload my FTDNA kit

    1. Central Roman (670 AD) (20.98) - CL36 (Click for more info)
    2. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1120 AD) (21.44) - I2514 (Click for more info)
    3. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (21.78) - I7424 (Click for more info)
    4. Central Roman (590 AD) (21.94) - SZ43 (Click for more info)
    5. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1100 AD) (21.97) - I2515 (Click for more info)
    6. Central Roman (590 AD) (22.22) - SZ36 (Click for more info)
    7. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (22.44) - I7425 (Click for more info)
    8. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) (22.52) - I3582 (Click for more info)
    9. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) (22.58) - I3981 (Click for more info)
    10. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (23.04) - CL23 (Click for more info)
    11. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (23.07) - I2644 (Click for more info)
    12. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (23.25) - SZ28 (Click for more info)
    13. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) (23.3) - I3575 (Click for more info)
    14. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1200 BC) (23.45) - I3313 (Click for more info)
    15. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (760 AD) (23.8) - I3585 (Click for more info)
    16. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (23.85) - CL57 (Click for more info)
    17. Roman Iberia Granada (300 AD) (23.93) - I3982 (Click for more info)
    18. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (24.17) - CL94 (Click for more info)
    19. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) (24.25) - I3581 (Click for more info)
    20. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) (24.73) - SZ45 (Click for more info)
    21. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (24.84) - SZ18 (Click for more info)
    22. Gepid / Goth (450 AD) (24.85) - Vim2 (Click for more info)
    23. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) (24.9) - I3576 (Click for more info)
    24. Central Roman (590 AD) (25.12) - SZ32 (Click for more info)
    25. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) (25.24) - SI-41 (Click for more info)
    26. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) (25.24) - scy192 (Click for more info)
    27. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) (25.29) - I12031 (Click for more info)
    28. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (25.33) - scy305 (Click for more info)
    29. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (25.46) - CL121 (Click for more info)
    30. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1600 BC) (25.5) - I4332 (Click for more info)
    31. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (25.5) - I5769 (Click for more info)
    32. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (25.57) - I2647 (Click for more info)
    33. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) (25.79) - I3983 (Click for more info)
    34. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (25.9) - CL63 (Click for more info)
    35. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) (26.17) - I3980 (Click for more info)
    36. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) (26.28) - SI-53 (Click for more info)
    37. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (26.69) - I2649 (Click for more info)
    38. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (26.91) - scy311 (Click for more info)
    39. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (27.2) - SZ19 (Click for more info)
    40. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (27.35) - CL47 (Click for more info)
    41. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) (27.65) - DA199 (Click for more info)
    42. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (27.74) - I3808 (Click for more info)
    43. Roman Soldier Germany (300 BC) (27.8) - FN_2 (Click for more info)
    44. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (28.02) - I12163 (Click for more info)
    45. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (28.3) - SZ40 (Click for more info)
    46. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (28.38) - CL53 (Click for more info)
    47. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (28.84) - CL102 (Click for more info)
    48. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (29.85) - I12034 (Click for more info)
    49. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (29.87) - SZ5 (Click for more info)
    50. Crusader Knight French / Lebanon (1250 AD) (29.89) - SI-40 (Click for more info)
    51. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (30.24) - SZ38 (Click for more info)
    52. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (30.4) - I12032 (Click for more info)
    53. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (30.54) - I9033 (Click for more info)
    54. Guanche Canary Islands (960 AD) (31.37) - gun005 (Click for more info)
    55. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (31.39) - I9041 (Click for more info)
    56. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 BC) (31.54) - FN_2 (Click for more info)
    57. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (31.55) - 6DRIF-22 (Click for more info)
    58. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (32.01) - I12162 (Click for more info)
    59. Guanche Canary Islands (1090 AD) (32.05) - gun002 (Click for more info)
    60. Carthaginian Ibiza (270 BC) (32.05) - MS10614 (Click for more info)

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    I have found that on the consolidated ancestral archaeological map the samples are recorded up to the order number 25. After the number 25, they are no longer recorded in the aforementioned consolidated map. The Crusader Knight French / Lebanon is my sample 26. It's a shame. Because of this, it is off my consolidated ancestral archaeological map. It only appears on the individualized archaeological map of the Medieval Age.




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    Your closest Ancient populations...

    Avar



    Scythian + Avar (5.484)
    Avar + Kievan Rus (6.431)
    Avar (6.442)
    Scythian (8.189)
    Kievan Rus (9.599)






    Your closest genetic modern populations...

    1. Ukrainian (3.894)
    2. Ukrainian_Lviv (4.406)
    3. South_Polish (4.964)
    4. Polish (6.606)
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    Is "Avar" just a local Slavic sample labeled as such for whatever reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Userius View Post
    Is "Avar" just a local Slavic sample labeled as such for whatever reason?
    Hello Userius,
    I do not know much about the Avars. I have no matches with samples of this ancient population, so MTA does not provide me with a link with the description of Avars samples. Although that, I've located an article that might help you. Hugs.




    Abstract

    After 568 AD the Avars settled in the Carpathian Basin and founded the Avar Qaganate that was an important power in Central Europe until the 9thcentury. Part of the Avar society was probably of Asian origin, however the localisation of their homeland is hampered by the scarcity of historical and archaeological data.
    Here, we study mitogenome and Y chromosomal STR variability of twenty-six individuals, a number of them representing a well-characterised elite group buried at the centre of the Carpathian Basin more than a century after the Avar conquest.
    The studied group has maternal and paternal genetic affinities to several ancient and modern East-Central Asian populations. The majority of the mitochondrial DNA variability represents Asian haplogroups (C, D, F, M, R, Y and Z). The Y-STR variability of the analysed elite males belongs only to five lineages, three N-Tat with mostly Asian parallels and two Q haplotypes. The homogeneity of the Y chromosomes reveals paternal kinship as a cohesive force in the organisation of the Avar elite strata on both social and territorial level. Our results indicate that the Avar elite arrived in the Carpathian Basin as a group of families, and remained mostly endogamous for several generations after the conquest.




    See the complete paper accessing the link below:

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/415760v2.full

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    Roman Citizens and Crusaders (Tuscan-Similar ) on Timelapse:





    Me vs I




    1. Central Roman (590 AD) (11.62) - SZ36
    2. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (11.97) - SZ40
    3. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (12.48) - CL121
    4. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (12.57) - SZ19

    20. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) (17.41)
    - SI-53

    22. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) (19.21) - SI-41

    28. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (20.68) - QED-2
    Last edited by Salento; 18-06-19 at 07:31.

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    My father's results
    Attachment 11144

    Is this possible the distance ? And why i dont have it in closest ancient population Illyrians and Thracians ( I have it only in Ancestral Timeline ) , i have Romans and Gauls just + Scythians ( i guess from my mother because she is half Serbian ).... But with that (fathers) distastance i dont have it in my Closest population....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RagnarofMacedon View Post
    My father's results
    Attachment 11144

    Is this possible the distance ? And why i dont have it in closest ancient population Illyrians and Thracians ( I have it only in Ancestral Timeline ) , i have Romans and Gauls just + Scythians ( i guess from my mother because she is half Serbian ).... But with that (fathers) distastance i dont have it in my Closest population....
    mydad.jpg
    Hello RagnarofMacedon,
    I do not have sufficient technical knowledge to give an opinion on the distances of MTA. But, as you know, from the historical point of view, it seems that from the Bronze Age, through the Iron Age at to classical antiquity, Illyrians, Gauls, Scythians, Thracians, Greeks and Romans had, simultaneously or at different times, settlements in the Balkans. The FAQ of MTA, i.e. ,the list of questions and answers, can help you in some way, I don’t know. I exemplify with two answers to very frequent questions:




    You also can try a answer more precise emailing to [email protected].

    A great hug :)

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    Posted image yesterday, this morning gone. Sorry
    Last edited by RVBlake; 19-06-19 at 18:02.

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    1. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (6.318) - 6DRIF-22 (Click for more info)
    2. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (6.382) - 3DRIF-16 (Click for more info)
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    5. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (7.395) - I5471 (Click for more info)
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    7. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (7.656) - SZ23 (Click for more info)
    8. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (7.719) - scy009 (Click for more info)
    9. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (8.009) - Hinxton HS3 (Click for more info)
    10. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (8.028) - I1767 (Click for more info)
    11. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (8.745) - I12162 (Click for more info)
    12. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.823) - SZ14 (Click for more info)
    13. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) (9.208) - I0112 (Click for more info)
    14. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (9.221) - ALH_1 (Click for more info)
    15. Alemannic Bavaria (425 AD) (9.224) - STR_316 (Click for more info)
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    I have a question for those of you who seem to be pretty smart about these matters. My closest Archaeogenetic match at mytrueancesstery.com is:

    "Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (4.989)."

    These
    are the remains of a European colonist found at Shohola creek, Indian Cabin Ridge, Pennsylvania, dated to 1634-1662 AD (GEDmatch kit DD7536671). This may be a Dutch ancestor of forebears of mine that lived in the area circa 1750. The remains were typed as I1a-Z73 and U4c1a - from "Ancient Human Parallel Lineages within North America Contributed to a Coastal Expansion" by C.L. Scheib, et al.

    However, when I compare my autosomal DNA with this sample in GEDmatch I get no shared DNA segments.

    How is this possible? And, what am I missing here?

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    Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (4.989) -> this doesn't mean that you are closely related, it means that you have similar proportions of admixtures that are 10,000s years old. in other words, every Dutch person will get a close match with that sample.

    you can post your eurogenes k36 results and the k36 of that sample so we can compare.

    for the one to one comparison you can try these settings: SNP window size threshold: 50 and Minimum segment cM size: 2
    and you will probably get some matching. but i don't know how correct is that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    I have a question for those of you who seem to be pretty smart about these matters. My closest Archaeogenetic match at mytrueancesstery.com is:

    "Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (4.989)."

    These
    are the remains of a European colonist found at Shohola creek, Indian Cabin Ridge, Pennsylvania, dated to 1634-1662 AD (GEDmatch kit DD7536671). This may be a Dutch ancestor of forebears of mine that lived in the area circa 1750. The remains were typed as I1a-Z73 and U4c1a - from "Ancient Human Parallel Lineages within North America Contributed to a Coastal Expansion" by C.L. Scheib, et al.

    However, when I compare my autosomal DNA with this sample in GEDmatch I get no shared DNA segments.

    How is this possible? And, what am I missing here?
    That's pretty cool, I didn't know they had samples from Colonial America.

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    I think your English ancestry is what is making this come up on the calculator. Do you get it for your Deep Dive?

    Are there any non-American users of English ancestry, also getting Colonial American samples?

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    But if you start to put samples as modern as the old examples are up to 60 the old examples will start to disappear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    But if you start to put samples as modern as the old examples are up to 60 the old examples will start to disappear.
    They should give people an option to display sets of samples by time period, when looking at the list of anicent samples.

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    REBClosest.jpgThis is my father, R1b

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    It's true, @Carlos. As they add new samples, with smaller distances and better classified in the TOP 60, those that previously appeared in a number of order less than 60, end up surpassing that order number and disappear of the TOP 60. This happened , in my case, with the Guanche Canarias sample. This sample disappeared from TOP 60 after the addition of samples from Scythians, Crusaders and Germanic Visigoth.

    That said, after I deleted old Kits and made a new data upload, the results that are displayed for the FTDNA and MyHeritage Kits are now absolutely identical, as shown below.



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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    I have a question for those of you who seem to be pretty smart about these matters. My closest Archaeogenetic match at mytrueancesstery.com is:

    "Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (4.989)."

    These
    are the remains of a European colonist found at Shohola creek, Indian Cabin Ridge, Pennsylvania, dated to 1634-1662 AD (GEDmatch kit DD7536671). This may be a Dutch ancestor of forebears of mine that lived in the area circa 1750. The remains were typed as I1a-Z73 and U4c1a - from "Ancient Human Parallel Lineages within North America Contributed to a Coastal Expansion" by C.L. Scheib, et al.

    However, when I compare my autosomal DNA with this sample in GEDmatch I get no shared DNA segments.

    How is this possible? And, what am I missing here?
    Hello [email protected],

    I confess my absolute ignorance about the US colonial history. However, on “yourDNAportal” discussion blog I found this comment from Tomenable, who is also a member of Eupedia. Following, I post the link. I hope this can help you in some way:

    https://yourdnaportalforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=102
    Last edited by Duarte; 20-06-19 at 00:03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voloh View Post
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    Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (4.989) -> this doesn't mean that you are closely related, it means that you have similar proportions of admixtures that are 10,000s years old. in other words, every Dutch person will get a close match with that sample.

    you can post your eurogenes k36 results and the k36 of that sample so we can compare.

    for the one to one comparison you can try these settings: SNP window size threshold: 50 and Minimum segment cM size: 2
    and you will probably get some matching. but i don't know how correct is that.
    Voloh:

    Thank you for your attempts to answer my questions. Here are my K36 results:


    Using the Eurogene K36 calculator I got,
    Admixture Results
    0.78% Amerindian
    9.67% Central_Euro
    0.69% East_African
    4.15% East_Balkan
    7.75% East_Central_Euro
    4.74% Eastern_Euro
    9.16% Fennoscandian
    6.49% French
    11.24% Iberian
    10.17% Italian
    17.88% North_Atlantic
    15.38% North_Sea
    1.40% Volga-Ural
    0.50% West_Med

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    [email protected]
    your and american colonist's k36 results are 82% identical.
    he is the closest to modern day north germans.
    Attachment 11162

    you are the closest to north germans, but also to the english and scottish people.

    Attachment 11163

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